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1 | father or Father? | 1 Chr 29:10 | Searcher56 | 140546 | ||
I would say Father, since it is His proper name | ||||||
2 | Who is exalted as head over all? | 1 Chr 29:10 | Ray | 140564 | ||
Hi Searcher56, I would say Father, also, if we can be sure that the verse is talking of the Lord God. The NASB and the Amplified versions interpret the verse as speaking of Israel, that is, Jacob, David's forefather. Could that be the more accurate interpretation? 1) The second choice that we have in considering this prayer and its pronouns is whether the second occurance of "Yours" should be included. The word is in italics in the NKJ. 1 Chron 29:11, NKJ, "Yours, O Lord, is the greatness, The power and the glory, The victory and the majesty; For all that is in heaven and in earth is [Yours]; Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, And You are exalted as head over all." 1 Chron 29:11, NASB, 1995, "Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, indeed everything that is in the heavens and the earth; Yours is the dominion, O Lord, and You exalt Yourself as head over all." Both versions have six pronouns of Deity in verse 11 but have translated it differently. How would you translate it? Would you use a lower number of pronouns by not using the implied "Yours" of the NKJ? Would you add to the number by capitalizing the word "Head" because He is exalted? 2) Or would you see little value in discussing the pronouns at all in the first place? I am aware that just because I want to know a triune God, doesn't mean that everyone is interested in that. From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Who is exalted as head over all? | 1 Chr 29:10 | Searcher56 | 140566 | ||
Ray, greeings to you, I know some people want to capitialize pronouns and other parts of speech if they refer to God. I think it helps at times ... but then sometimes I think it may be hard to know if the word is referring to God or not. I don't have a specific example. As I wrote this I though about the missing part in "worship" in the Christian life ... that is bowing on our knees and face before Him. thinking-knowing He has absolute rule over us. With that view I think we need to pay more attention to capitialization ... to show Him honor and respect. Searcher |
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4 | Who is exalted as head over all? | 1 Chr 29:10 | Ray | 140575 | ||
Hi Searcher, Amen, bro. Our posture before Him is important for worship. Growing up as a preacher's kid I was taught to sit up straight and be quiet during the prayers at church services. We are taught when young to fold our hands and pray. We are taught to stand for the reading of the Scriptures in the church service or for the doxology being sung. These are all signs of honor and respect for Him. In this range of signs of respect, (from folding hands in prayer to bowing on our knees and face before Him), the important thing is the attitude of the heart. We should do many things to show Him honor and respect and to even remind ourselves that although precious to Him, we are only flesh and blood in contrast to Holy Spirit. We are children of a great God. 1) Sometimes we don't know if it is God's Will that a word be capitalized. Perhaps that would be a specific example of what you were talking about here. 2) The word "head" in 1 Chron 29:11is one that I have considered for Ephesians 5:23 for instance. I think of Christ as the Head of the church and the husband as the head of the wife. Yet in having absolute rule over us, being regarded as our Ruler as believers; He is also head over all, even as our Head and Savior of the body. 3) In my mind, for verse 11, I leave the word "head" in lower case with the NKJ rendering "Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, And You are exalted as head over all." I would go with the NASB in its rendering of verse 11 in that they leave out the "Yours" that is not in the Hebrew as shown by the italics in the NKJ. Thus, I would have in my personal interpretation/translation a total of five pronouns for verse 11. 4) Comparing verse 10 with verse 18, I see enough of a case to choose a lower case "father" for verse 10 as well. With these choices, it leaves the total count of pronouns of Deity for this prayer at 36 which is of course divisible by 3. What are your thoughts on all of this? From the heart, Ray |
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