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1 | To whom is Isaiah 14 directed? | Isaiah | 12345 | 87494 | ||
In Isaiah 14:4 it says "you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:" and then goes on to say in Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn!" but this is directed toward the king of Babylon, not Lucifer, am I right, in retribution for the pride and evil of the inhabitants of Babylon? Are there any other scripture references you know? Maybe one that will address who the morning star is, or the son of the dawn? I have cross-referenced with Revelations but have still had no luck in getting a clear and complete "story." Thank you. | ||||||
2 | To whom is Isaiah 14 directed? | Isaiah | DAIRYLEADER5 | 87563 | ||
I believe that your mistaken, in vers.7, this is a future reference to the millinial reign and the scriptures change to reference satan.satan has22 names in scripture, do you need them all? I have them. The anointed Cherub in ezk. 28;11 also references back to the son of the morning. remember that Jesus called him an angel of light. In the old testiment you hafe to be careful when reading because a lot of scripture there is not written in sequence, as the Book of revelations is also not written in sequence.Note the suttle change from vers. 6 to 7, hes talking about two different people. Any thing else I can help with dont hesatate to ask. | ||||||
3 | To whom is Isaiah 14 directed? | Isaiah | srprimeaux | 87584 | ||
Lucifer is not Satan. The context into which verse 12 fits begins in verse 4 where God told Isaiah to “take up this parable against the king of Babylon, and say, ‘How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!’” The chest-pounding boast of the impudent potentate was: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High (vss. 13-14). Nowhere within the context of Isaiah 14 is Satan depicted as Lucifer. In fact, quite the opposite is true. The Babylonian ruler was to die and be buried—fates neither of which Satan is destined to endure. The king was called “a man” whose body was to be eaten by worms, but Satan, as a spirit, has no physical body. The monarch lived in and abided over a “golden city” (vs. 4), but Satan is the monarch of a kingdom of spiritual darkness (cf. Ephesians 6:12). And so on. If you want to believe Satan is Lucifer, you have freedom to do that - but don't blame it on the Bible. In Christ, SRP |
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4 | To whom is Isaiah 14 directed? | Isaiah | Hank | 87588 | ||
An opposing view, SRP, to your conclusion that Lucifer [a.k.a. 'star of the morning' and, literally, 'shining one' or 'bright one'] is not Satan: "Isaiah 14:12 _star of the morning_ Lit., the bright one. Evidently a reference to Satan embodied in the King of Babylon because of Christ's similar description (Luke 10:18) and because of the inappropriateness of the expressions of verses 13-14 on the lips of any but Satan (cf. 1 Tim 3:6)." Charles Ryrie, Ryrie Study Bible, Moody Press, p. 1069. --Hank | ||||||
5 | To whom is Isaiah 14 directed? | Isaiah | srprimeaux | 87589 | ||
I don't see any relation between Is. 14 and Luke 10:18. A lot of people belive Lucifer is the name for Satan, so they look for any verse that appears to defend their view point. Luke 10:18 is, what I believe, an example of the disciple's power over demons which demonstrates that Satan's power is decisively broken through Jesus' ministry. Luke 10:18 isn't, what some believe, a cross reference to the King of Babylon in Isaiah 14. In Christ, SRP |
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