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1221 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | stjohn | 209585 | ||
Hi Tim; Though there may be some commentary from esteemed theologians that support this view. There also seems to be many more that do not. -- "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" (Psalm 51:5). In addition, we have commands that we know we never keep, much less on a daily basis. For instance, who can claim to love God with all his heart, mind and soul every moment of every day? No one. Yet, that is the greatest commandment (Matthew 22:36-38). Failing to love God completely at all times is a daily sin for all Christians. We also have a verse that warns us of the deceitfulness of our old sinful nature, which in a sense is warning us of the potential, if not the likelihood, of daily sin. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9). Even the apostle Paul was frustrated with his own battle against indwelling sin. "For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members" (Romans 7:22-23). This capacity to sin led him to cry in desperation, “What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?” (Romans 7:24). Solomon knew full well that he and all men not only have the potential for sin, but that we all exercise that capacity routinely. As he stated in his prayer at the dedication of the temple, "If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not)" (1 Kings 8:46). And Solomon spoke of it again in the book of Ecclesiastes: "For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not" (Ecclesiastes 7:20). Again, while these verses do not unequivocally indicate daily sin, they certainly warn us against the pride of saying at any moment that we have no sin.?"--http://www.gotquestions.org/sin-daily.html ------------------------------------------------------ Romans 7:15-25 "The intensely personal character of these verses and the use of present tenses indicate that this was Paul's owen experience as a believer."-- Ryrie Study Bible Expanded Edition NASB ------------------------------------------------------ 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? -- "It is a miserable thing to be yet in part subject to sin, which of its own nature makes us guilty of death: but we must cry to the Lord, who will by death itself at length make us conquerors, as we are already conquerors in Christ. Wearied with miserable and continual conflicts." 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I f myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. -- "He recovers himself, and shows us that he rests only in Christ. This is the true perfection of those that are born again, to confess that they are imperfect."--The Geneva Study Bible ------------------------------------------------------ Also: http://eword.gospelcom.net/comments/romans/gill/romans7.htm And: http://eword.gospelcom.net/comments/romans/mhc/romans7.htm The content of these web-sources that are held alongside of this are also in post 209566 so I wont post them again. Needless to say, they concur that the "Wretched Man" is synonymous with the Christian inner struggle with daily sin. And should give great comfort to those who are aware of this struggle. ------------------------------------------------------ 24. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?--The apostle speaks of the "body" here with reference to "the law of sin" which he had said was "in his members," but merely as the instrument by which the sin of the heart finds vent in action, and as itself the seat of the lower appetites (see on Ro 6:6, and Ro 7:5); and he calls it "the body of this death," as feeling, at the moment when he wrote, the horrors of that death (Ro 6:21, and Ro 7:5) into which it dragged him down. But the language is not that of a sinner newly awakened to the sight of his lost state; it is the cry of a living but agonized believer, weighed down under a burden which is not himself, but which he longs to shake off from his renewed self. Nor does the question imply ignorance of the way of relief at the time referred to. It was designed only to prepare the way for that outburst of thankfulness for the divinely provided remedy which immediately follows. 25. I thank God--the Source. through Jesus Christ--the Channel of deliverance. So then--to sum up the whole matter. with the mind--the mind indeed.--Jamieson, Faussett, and Brown I guess Tim, we have come to a crossroad that we part in agreement but, share many truths that we can be glad of. And agree to disagree, agreeably. :-) God bless John |
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1222 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | stjohn | 209598 | ||
Dear Tim, Please read the teachings from the web-link that brother Steve gave you at DisiringGod.org http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TopicIndex/126_Indwelling_Sin/57_Who_is_This_Divided_Man_Part_1/ http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TopicIndex/126_Indwelling_Sin/58_Who_is_This_Divided_Man_Part_2/ http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TopicIndex/126_Indwelling_Sin/59_Who_is_This_Divided_Man_Part_3/ http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TopicIndex/126_Indwelling_Sin/60_Who_is_This_Divided_Man_Part_4/ http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TopicIndex/126_Indwelling_Sin/62_Who_is_This_Divided_Man_Part_6/ Or you can download them and listen. This helps me an awful lot when I'm just too busy doing other things, and cant sit down to read. Tim, It is my sincere hope and prayer that you read it, in prayer, and for God to enlighten you my friend. John Piper does a splendid, and amazing job of reconciling the contradictions. I only wish that Anthony Hoekema had read this before he changed his mind! :-) I am reading it now, Tim, I'm about half way through, and find it to be a very edifying and inspiring gift from one of the most Spirit filled men I know that is still on this side of the grass! Good reading my friend and may God bless you in your ministry and your studies. Tim, I'd like to thank you as well for the blessing this morning. The service went well, thank you! There was much healing in a family that has suffered far too much pain and turmoil over the years. But I overheard some of them even reconciling over some old and very bitter disputes. Praise God! God bless John |
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1223 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | stjohn | 209627 | ||
Hi Tim: Well Tim, since you were so gracious to share your favorite quote from John Piper's wonderfully accurate and sound exegesis on "Who is This Divided Man" or "Wretched Man" I thought I'd share my favorite as well. :-) "And in those times when we fail to triumph over sin, Romans 7:14-25 shows us the normal way a healthy Christian should respond. We should say: I love the law of God (verse 22). I hate what I just did (verse 15). Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death (verse 24)? Thanks be to God! The victory will come through Jesus Christ my Lord (verse 25). In other words, no Christian wants to live this way – in defeat. No Christian settles to live this way. But if we do live this way for a time, we shouldn't lie about it. No hypocrisy. No posing. No boasted perfectionism. No churchy, pasted smiles or chipper superficiality. God save us from blindness to our own failures and the consequent quickness to judge others. God help us to feel worse about our own shortfalls than the failure of others. God give us the honesty and candor and humility of the apostle Paul in this text!" -- John Piper So concise! So succinct! And oh so easy to understand! It's so good to know our loving Father God, doesn't put the cookies on the top shelf, where His kids cant reach them! It's a real blessing too, to have a man like John Piper, to explain the Scriptures, and give us children of God so much hope and comfort! God bless John |
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1224 | Isn't Paul free of sin? | Rom 7:25 | stjohn | 225931 | ||
Well said, Brother Beja. | ||||||
1225 | Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour | Rom 8:34 | stjohn | 215822 | ||
"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." - John Newton | ||||||
1226 | Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour | Rom 8:34 | stjohn | 215850 | ||
Thanks! Those verses are so fundamental to understanding salvation. And yet we will still try to use human understanding and suffer so much in our foolish pride in trying to take charge of it ourselves and complicate things by tacking our own worthless name to it! One passage that so often comes to my mind is: "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." Eph 2:8-10 It's just so much easier and such a real joy in the peace of heart and well-being we get by, getting out of the way and, simply letting Him -our all-sufficient Saviour- be in charge! :-) John |
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1227 | Why were the chosen ones chosen? | Rom 9:15 | stjohn | 188566 | ||
Hello TheSeeker.... I don't think they where laughing [at] God. I think It is reasonable to believe that they where Laughing at the very idea that they could or would have a Baby at their well advanced old age. Why would you think that they where laughing at God? God bless. John |
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1228 | Alter Calls? | Rom 10:9 | stjohn | 209691 | ||
Hi Meta: Welcome to the forum! Meta, I've been following this thread, and I think Brother Hank posted to you before your other posts were up. So I think he didn't know how you would apologize in response to others. Which is a very commendable and Christian thing to do by the way. :-) God bless John |
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1229 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | stjohn | 210339 | ||
Dear Hank: Well, Hank, I guess it's true, great minds do think alike! ;-) That hymn (I Surender All) has been going through my head ever since I read Justme's post over an hour ago! You sure hit home, Justme! :-) God bless john |
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1230 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | stjohn | 210343 | ||
Me too, Justme, me too! He is so wonderful in His grace and mercy that none of us deserve! Somebody pinch me! :-) God bless John |
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1231 | Does Christ come into our hearts? | Rom 10:9 | stjohn | 210346 | ||
:-) John |
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1232 | Is verbal confession enough assurance | Rom 10:9 | stjohn | 215961 | ||
Amen. Maybe just a scratch, Steve, but one that bleeds truth. Excellent post! John |
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1233 | Wisodom has the power to save? | Rom 10:17 | stjohn | 204174 | ||
Dear Tamara: No one knows what God is doing or has done in the heart of any individual. Nobody should judge who should hear whatever Scriptures God may use to draw someone to Him. "just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love" Eph 1:4 If you disagree with someone's methods, then simply and humbly do what you believe the Scriptures are telling you. Without being confrontational! There is never profit in strife! Be a beacon my dear, try to show the unbelievers that Christians have a spirit of unity, not division. If you cannot, or will not do that, or you are unable to do that, then simply remove yourself from the situation. We do not honor God by having a confrontational attitude toward the teacher! Shalom and God bless John |
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1234 | Wisodom has the power to save? | Rom 10:17 | stjohn | 204181 | ||
Well, good for you! Keep up the good work, it looks like the Gosole is in good hands. :-) | ||||||
1235 | John Mills 30k inconsistancies in the NT | Rom 10:17 | stjohn | 219618 | ||
That was a most excellent quote, Brad! Amen! John |
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1236 | weep with others is more important? | Rom 12:15 | stjohn | 216225 | ||
Dear Azure, I don't think so, Azure. It appears from my -however limited- knowledge of Scripture, that they are both taught as equally important. Reading this chapter (Romans 12) gives us a very good picture of how we are to act toward one another in the spirit of Christian love. Showing in all things toward our brethren to give generously as it has been given to us: v 6a "Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to exercise them accordingly:" If you are one who finds it easy to rejoice, then, if someone is rejoicing, rejoice with them, for all you are worth, and if you are one who has a special place in your heart for those who are grieving, then, by all means, show this with empathy, and tender compassion. I know you will! :-) God bless John |
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1237 | weep with others is more important? | Rom 12:15 | stjohn | 216229 | ||
Good point, Doc, Eccl 7:2 also comes to mind. John |
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1238 | Tithing, Giving, Itemizing | Rom 13:1 | stjohn | 199802 | ||
Well,... what you get back on your taxes,... give that to God too. :-) Thats a win-win! | ||||||
1239 | MAN STEALS FROM ME AM I TO TURN MY HEAD | Rom 13:2 | stjohn | 222538 | ||
And, if I may add, didn't Paul stand up for his rights as a Roman citizen, without compromising his servitude to Christ. | ||||||
1240 | MAN STEALS FROM ME AM I TO TURN MY HEAD | Rom 13:2 | stjohn | 222547 | ||
HI BROTHER HOPPY! IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE STILL AROUND WITH YOUR OLD TIRED EYES AND STILL ABLE TO POST. YOUR WORDS ARE A SIGHT FOR THESE OLD TIRED EYES. :-) I HOPE YOU'RE DOING OKAY MY BROTHER. | ||||||
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