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841 | Luke 7:29-30? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 50612 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth John 6:63 (ESV) It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. Romans 6:4 (ESV) We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. If the Spirit is the one who gives life (and He is), then the baptism which enables the newness of life must be baptism of the Spirit. Ephes. 4:5 (ESV) one Lord, one faith, one baptism, In promoting unity, Paul mentions several things we are to rally around. To be the most accurate, I would say baptism into Christ is the baptism here; but since the Spirit gives life and Christ is the giver of life, then the Holy Spirit is the baptizing agent--not water. Steve |
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842 | Luke 7:29-30? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 50632 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth Of course Acts 8 is speaking of water. I was just trying to knock down this logical fallacy you are building. If we say Eph 4:5 is water baptism, then there is not nor ever has been Spirit baptism, which is a contradiction of Scripture that you've already been given. To avoid this contradiction, one would have to say that water and Spirit baptisms are synonomous and/or instantaneous at the time of immersion. But this can't be true because we have a documented case in Acts where the Holy Spirit indwelt the believers before baptism. It's bad enough that you attempt to prove that God added to the condition of salvation, but now you prove He's inconsistent in that new administration. Steve |
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843 | Luke 7:29-30? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 50635 | ||
Hello Tim 'Tis a puzzle indeed! :-) Steve |
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844 | Luke 7:29-30? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 50692 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth Again you avoid revealed inconsistency and shift the conversation. But to answer you concerning Col 2:12-13--the context is plainly the spiritual work accomplished in us. Therefore the baptism spoken of is Holy Spirit baptism. You have sufficiently proved your true self as one preaching another gospel. This discussion is over. Steve |
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845 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 51512 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth The difficulty seems to be with how "justified" is used in James 2:21. There is more than one definition for this word. Your interpretation seems to be that this is a judicial act where sin is removed and/or covered. If this is the case, then Abraham was not "saved" until he offered up Isaac in Gen 22. However the clear testimony of Scripture is that his belief was counted to him for righteousness back in Gen 15:6. It can't be both. Either God did as stated in 15:6 or somebody lied. James 2 is stating that Abraham proved his faith by the willingness to offer up Isaac. The belief that allowed God to count as righteousness was demonstrated on the mountain. Steve |
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846 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 51519 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth "Made perfect" is a maturing of what Abraham had. There was a beginning (Gen 15) and a perfecting (Gen 22). God was bringing it to its completion. The outcome of faith is to be obedience. We have the similar thought (though not identical) in Philippians 1:6 (ESV) And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. Here Paul acknowledges the maturing process, but looks to it's ultimate conclusion at the day of Christ. James is looking at the practical outworking of faith being the expected conclusion of true faith in this life. Steve |
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847 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 51806 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth The difference is how we define "work." In your response to Hank, you define it as "effort done in/from/of the flesh." I think I speak for Hank in saying we define "work" as any effort to accomplish a task whether it's of faith or flesh. Ours is the common dictionary usage. Steve |
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848 | What is baptism in water from Jesus's po | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 51821 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth We already have previously. Did I state your definition for "work" correctly? Steve |
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849 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 78391 | ||
Hello Disciplerami There is definitely a specific time. Acts 16:31 (ESV) And they said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." Believe equals Saved. Steve |
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850 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 78818 | ||
Hello Disciplerami Your definition of the gospel is incorrect. The correct one is found here: 1 Cor. 15:3-4 (ESV) For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, [4] that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, No baptism is mentioned. Steve |
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851 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 78839 | ||
Hello Disciplerami So I misunderstood what you said. It seemed you were making baptism a part of the gospel. But you still cannot make an argument that Philip told the eunuch that baptism was necessary for salvation. It cannot be done. We don't know what the eunuch knew of baptism and its significance before they met. I would be inclined to think he knew it was a sign of repentance. Steve |
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852 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 78961 | ||
Hello Disciplerami So you admit that neither of us has any idea what the conversation was. I can live with that. What I can't abide is an insistence on building an argument from what is not given in the text. As to your P.S.--The threads are monitored. If there is an indication if hostile conversation, aberrant teaching, detrimental promotion of a viewpoint, etc., the thread can be made restricted to prevent newcomers from being stumbled by the postings. It's somewhat subjective, but we live with it. Steve |
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853 | Acts 2:38, why people delay baptism | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 113387 | ||
Hello Emmaus, I stand corrected as to the facts surrounding Augustine. Steve |
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854 | Jesus' name baptism? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 129321 | ||
Hello DEBRAH, Had you taken the time to read the entire thread to which you posted, you would have seen logical, scriptural reasons for invoking the Trinity in baptism. Do yourself a favor--go back and read them. Steve |
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855 | Baptism-What Does the Bible Teach? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133455 | ||
Hello Rowdy, "You might notice that here Paul is baptized in a hurry (like the Phillipian jailer) as he does so before he eats a meal after 3 days of fasting. If baptism wasn't required for salvation, don't you think he could have waited?" There is a problem with your assumption. The text simply does not say when Paul believed--whether at Jesus' appearance, during the 3-day fast, or upon Ananias' arrival. I could make a case that he believed before Ananias arrived. Steve |
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856 | Baptism-What Does the Bible Teach? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133462 | ||
Hello Rowdy, The point of my post was to show that your emphasis on the immediacy of baptism was unfounded. Steve |
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857 | Isn't 24 more than one? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133464 | ||
Hello Rowdy, Nowhere in Scripture do we find that baptism is "God's seal of approval" either. Those are your words. You place a great deal of emphasis taking the safe route. Do you also keep the Law and carry a rabbit's foot for good measure? In the final analysis, that's how little you esteem the abundant grace of God. Steve |
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858 | Isn't 24 more than one? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133476 | ||
Hello Rowdy, "My whole answer in this regard is hinged on the fact nowhere in the Bible does God depict a concept of getting salvation with just simple belief without some kind of proof." This is absolutely correct, yet your definition of proof is baptism. You completely discount that James speaks of a lifestyle of good works, instead zeroing in on one specific work that must be done. It is a work that should be done, not the single most important one. Now go back to Tim's 24 verses, and get it right. Steve |
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859 | Isn't 24 more than one? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133480 | ||
Hello Rowdy, "Like I alluded to in an earlier post, circumcision was the seal of God's approval adding a foreign Gentile to the Jewish family." No, it's not. God's seal of approval is his presence. We see that in vividly pictured with Israel. As long as God was dwelling with them, they had blessing or a chance of recovery after sinning. Finally, God removed his presence as written in Ezekiel, and the people went into captivity. It's the same way with Christians. God's presence is with us in the Holy Spirit. He seals, baptizes, indwells, and fills us. Jesus promised to be with us always. The Father is with us as well. That's the seal of approval. "It's the act of total obedience, indicating total submission of our will to God's Will, just like circumcision was for those folks in the OT, especially for grown men." Which is why an entire generation of circumcised men died in the wilderness--because of their total obedience to God. I don't think so. Circumcision was the sign of the covenant--nothing more (Gen 17:10-14). Steve |
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860 | Isn't 24 more than one? | Acts 2:38 | srbaegon | 133481 | ||
Hello Rowdy, Yes, you have said that we need to look at the whole of Scripture and obey it. However, you have been abundantly clear that the work you consider as all important is baptism. So while you never specifically stated that baptism was your definition, you did indeed make it clear with your repeated insistance that it be the thing that God will judge us on. Steve |
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