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681 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92721 | ||
Hello Ken, Of course it's required for those who have never heard. What does Scripture say concerning that state of all men? Romans 3:10-18 (ESV) as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; [11] no one understands; no one seeks for God. [12] All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one. [13] Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive. The venom of asps is under their lips. [14] Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness. [15] Their feet are swift to shed blood; [16] in their paths are ruin and misery, [17] and the way of peace they have not known. [18] There is no fear of God before their eyes." So how can any be living in hope and fear of God? This is an invalid premise. Steve |
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682 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92723 | ||
Hello Ken, I didn't see anything else in that post to discuss, except possibly for your recommendation to buy a book concerning a mission effort to a tribe in South America. Or am I looking at the wrong post? Steve |
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683 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92733 | ||
Hello Ken, Yes, it IS too bad they never heard the gospel. I didn't rip the verses from their moorings. Paul did. But to answer your questions: Who was Paul quoting? Psalm 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Psalm 5:9; Psalm 140:3; Psalm 10:7; Isaiah 59:7f; Psalm 36:1. When was it written? At various times through Israel's history. Steve |
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684 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92746 | ||
Hello Ken, Certainly it can happen. People will be judged according to their works. That's what it says. You are correct that it says nothing of rewards. I never said that it did. I said people will get what they deserve. What it does NOT say in the passage you've quoted is that anyone will receive salvation at this judgement. Steve |
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685 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92749 | ||
Hello Ken, OK, let's look at Abraham and Noah. When did they demonstrate faith? After God's direct revelation of Himself, not before that and not through creation. Steve |
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686 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92755 | ||
Hello Ken, Those that died in faith are received in heaven. Hebrews 11:13,16 (ESV) These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth...[16] But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city. This has been my unstated assumption all along. Steve |
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687 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92756 | ||
Hello Ken, Because the sins must be judged before the condemnation and punishment is enforced. The verses do not imply any hope. Steve |
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688 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92760 | ||
Hello Ken, OK let's look at Scripture. When do we first hear about Noah? Genesis 6:8 (ESV) But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. That's it. Nothing about Noah being someone special or God-fearing. Rather it was God's choosing of Noah that was the determining factor. Hebrews 11:7 (ESV) By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. What about Abraham? You go to Genesis 15. You need to start sooner. Genesis 12:1-4 (ESV) Now the Lord said to Abram, "Go from your country and your kindred and your father's house to the land that I will show you. [2] And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. [3] I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." [4] So Abram went, as the Lord had told him, and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he departed from Haran. Again there's nothing special about Abraham. Just God's choosing. And what did he do? Hebrews 11:8 (ESV) By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. God first, then the response. Steve |
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689 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92761 | ||
Hello Ken, I think you are misconstruing what I said. I said they died in faith. And faith comes from hearing God's revelation of Himself through His word. If they never heard, they are not saved. Steve |
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690 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92767 | ||
Hello Ken, The book of Romans has all this. Steve |
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691 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92768 | ||
Hello Ken, Romans says differently. Steve |
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692 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92824 | ||
Hello Ken, I may not have made myself clear. Those who died before Christ were saved by faith in God. That faith was based on His revealed word. Those who die after Christ are saved by faith in God--specifically the person and work of the Lord Jesus. That faith is based on His revealed word. Did the poor man know Jesus? No. He died before. Steve |
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693 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92826 | ||
Hello Ken, Then a large body of Biblical scholars also has it wrong. But let's assume I am wrong. What does Romans teach concerning this? Steve |
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694 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92829 | ||
Hello Ken, That's an excellent question. I don't know the specific reasons God chose these two. What I do know is that all who God chooses are chosen according to God's purposes and mercy, not because of anything which might merit a reason. Ephes. 1:11 (ESV) In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, Titus 3:5 (ESV) he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, Steve |
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695 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92831 | ||
Hello Ken, What revealed word? Whatever direct revelation God had given up to that point--words spoken to Adam and Eve and Cain; Law given to Moses; whole of the Old Testament. I've already told what saved to Abraham's bosom--the direct revelation of God, His word. Steve |
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696 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92832 | ||
Hello Ken, I agree that Paul is speaking of the depravity of humanity. I cannot agree that they are general statements. When words like "none" and "not one" and "no" are used, it seems all-encompassing. Nobody is left out. Besides even verse 9 tells us that all are under sin. Romans 3:9 (ESV) What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin, I'm not sure where you're going with the conditions at Noah's time. Could you explain? Steve |
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697 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92843 | ||
Hello Ken, Jeremiah was known by God before the womb (Jer 1:5). And you are correct that I don't believe anyone was made robotic. But you cannot conclude there was something about Noah, Abraham, Jeremiah, you, me, etc. that was good or special or something which would cause God to pick us out. If there is, please show me the Scripture that states this. Steve |
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698 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92846 | ||
Hello Ken, That's twice now that you've called me Baptistic. Should I be pleased or insulted? :-) Too vague and legalistic? How about this? Romans 9:4 (ESV) They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. Here Paul explains that only the Jews had God's truth, and only the Jews were in God's favor. It's true that Jesus never mentions these things, but the point He was talking to the Pharisees about money (Luke 16:14) and was making a point that riches won't do any good if you're not using it rightly and going to hell. Sure a contrite heart has value: Psalm 51:17 (ESV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise. Steve |
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699 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92849 | ||
Hello Ken, I wouldn't be bold enough to say that the verbal recording was watered down. The reason I don't think there were more unrecorded lives that were in awe of God, is that by the time of Noah, the whole of humanity was called wicked (Gen 6:5) so that only Noah and his family was saved. Also, I would have expected a few more mentioned, besides Enoch, having walked with God. Steve |
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700 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92859 | ||
Hello Ken, As I've mentioned before, the application is in Romans 2. They are a law unto themselves. Even in this they will fail because they are sinful men. Your whole basis of reasoning is looking for what Scripture does not say and trying to build a theology of salvation from it. I don't see a reason for continuing. Steve |
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