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441 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 68964 | ||
Hello Don I agree with your assessment concerning dysfunctional men in western society and the situation in which women find themselves. But as to your allusion, cultural situations are not proper for apologetics. Scripture is. So far you have adhered to a preceptive hermeneutic--what is and is not explicitly stated. However, you have overlooked the important area of patterns. This is why we see Adam and Eve, Eph 5, etc. as such strong arguments for monogamy as the biblical standard. When looking at the lives of known polygomists we find either: 1) men of low character and complete disregard for God or 2) God-fearing men whose families were ruined from internal strife. David is an exception because his family was ruined by his adultery and murder. As an aside, your posting sounded more like postmodern relativism than sound exegesis. You should be careful about that. Steve |
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442 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 69244 | ||
Hello Don You stated: "When Jesus spoke on the issue of a man marrying his dead brother's wife in order to fulfill an obligation to provide an heir for the deceased brother, He said nothing against the fact that the Law made no mention that the living brother HAD to be single in order to take on that brother's widow as his own wife. He had every opportunity to address this alleged "weakness" in the Law, and yet He was completely silent about the issue of plural wives. Was He not smart enough to realize the implications of this? Certainly He knew the Law and its implications better than any man who has ever lived." Jesus didn't mention what was not pertinent to the matter at hand. His emphasis was on correcting the Sadducees' concept of the resurrection. "Moses did not have problems associated with his having two wives..." The problem came from Moses' siblings (Num 12:1). "(He had two more wives after Sarah's death)" I only know of Keturah (Gen 25:1). Who was the other? My generalization of OT examples may have been overstated. However, in attempting to put these examples together, I was struck that there were no NT examples and remarkably few after the Mosaic law was given. The decline in practice is a strong case in itself. Steve |
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443 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175528 | ||
Hello Hugh, Polygamy is not an integral part of Levirate Law. The examples given in Scripture where this occurs (Judah's sons and Boaz come to mind) give clear indication that the brethren are unmarried. Steve |
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444 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175552 | ||
Hello Hugh, You seem to take the position that anything not specifically stated in Scripture is permissible for the Christian. Are you consistent in this? Scripture explicitly states that a man should not divorce his wife. Is a wife permitted to divorce her husband for just any reason? How far are you willing to go in this? Steve |
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445 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175554 | ||
Hello Hugh, You are inconsistent. Adultery is defined as sexual relations with one who is not your spouse. Therefore a man can most certainly commit adultery against his wife. Now please answer my question--Is the Christian permitted to do anything not explicitly forbidden in Scripture? Steve |
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446 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175558 | ||
Hello Hugh, From Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: A1. Adulterer (-ess), Adulterous, Adultery [Noun] moichos denotes one "who has unlawful intercourse with the spouse of another," Luke 18:11; 1 Cor 6:9; Heb 13:4. As to James 4:4, see below. A2. Adulterer (-ess), Adulterous, Adultery [Noun] moichalis "an adulteress," is used (a) in the natural sense, 2 Pet 2:14; Rom 7:3; (b) in the spiritual sense, James 4:4; here the RV rightly omits the word "adulterers." It was added by a copyist. As in Israel the breach of their relationship with God through their idolatry, was described as "adultery" or "harlotry" (e.g., Ezek 16:15ff; Ezek 23:43), so believers who cultivate friendship with the world, thus breaking their spiritual union with Christ, are spiritual "adulteresses," having been spiritually united to Him as wife to husband, Rom 7:4. It is used adjectivally to describe the Jewish people in transferring their affections from God, Matt 12:39; Matt 16:4; Mark 8:38. In 2 Pet 2:14, the lit. translation is "full of an adulteress" (RV, marg.). A3. Adulterer (-ess), Adulterous, Adultery [Noun] moicheia "adultery," is found in Matt 15:19; Mark 7:21; John 8:3 (AV only). B1. Adulterer (-ess), Adulterous, Adultery [Verb] moichao used in the Middle Voice in the NT, is said of men in Matt 5:32; Matt 19:9; Mark 10:11; of women in Mark 10:10. B2. Adulterer (-ess), Adulterous, Adultery [Verb] moicheuo is used in Matt 5:27,28,32 (in Matt 5:32 some texts have moichao); Matt 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 16:18; Luke 18:20; John 8:4; Rom 2:22; Rom 13:9; James 2:11; in Rev 2:22, metaphorically, of those who are by a Jezebel's solicitations drawn away to idolatry. Steve |
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447 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175567 | ||
Hello Hugh, Lev 20:10 (ESV) If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Num 5:11-15 (ESV) And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to the people of Israel, If any man's wife goes astray and breaks faith with him, if a man lies with her sexually, and it is hidden from the eyes of her husband, and she is undetected though she has defiled herself, and there is no witness against her, since she was not taken in the act, and if the spirit of jealousy comes over him and he is jealous of his wife who has defiled herself, or if the spirit of jealousy comes over him and he is jealous of his wife, though she has not defiled herself, 15 then the man shall bring his wife to the priest and bring the offering required of her, a tenth of an ephah of barley flour. He shall pour no oil on it and put no frankincense on it, for it is a grain offering of jealousy, a grain offering of remembrance, bringing iniquity to remembrance." Obviously, adultery is possible. It is sin. Steve |
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448 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175569 | ||
Hello Hugh, Mark is consistent. He is acknowledging that Jesus is the one who gave the word of truth (Bible) and is therefore qualified to explain its content. He does so by saying the Genesis account specifies one man and one woman. It's quite simple, you see. Steve |
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449 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | srbaegon | 175581 | ||
Hello Hugh, And the marriage referred to as not breaking up consisted of one man and one woman. And you have never answered my question--Do you believe that whatever the Bible does not specifically condemn is permissible to the believer? How many times and in how many ways must this be asked before you give a response? Steve |
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450 | Should a member rebuke an elder? | 1 Chr 16:22 | srbaegon | 179933 | ||
Hello Bereaniam, Allow me to respond to one point of your inquiry--you questioned the practice of the elders. There are two issues: 1) Your profile states that you are married. If that is still the case, your husband is the spiritual leader of the home, and he should be taking this matter to the elders. You are not acting in submission to him. (Eph 5:22-24) 2) Questioning a practice and expecting a Scriptural answer are not incorrect, but it has appeared that you have done so repeatedly and have inadvertantly made yourself look like a nuisance. (At least that is how I have taken your posts. If I'm wrong, please correct me.) Steve |
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451 | Need study materialon Chapters 1 to 6 | Ezra | srbaegon | 189494 | ||
Hello Tilda, Go to http://www.bible.org/passage.php and choose Ezra. Also you might try http://www.ccel.org/wwsb/Ezra/index.html Steve |
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452 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115326 | ||
Hello ischus, Ezra was not wrong. The Law stipulated that the Jews were not to marry from certain nationalities. Deut. 7:1-4 (ESV) When the Lord your God brings you into the land that you are entering to take possession of it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations more numerous and mightier than yourselves, [2] and when the Lord your God gives them over to you, and you defeat them, then you must devote them to complete destruction. You shall make no covenant with them and show no mercy to them. [3] You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, [4] for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly. Steve |
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453 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115519 | ||
Hello ischus, There is no need to apologize for the challenge. I could not detect any disrespect. As to your exegesis, EdB has given you a good set of verses, but let's put some of this together. Ammon and Moab were under a general condemnation for several generations because of they way they treated Israel (Deut 23:3). Also, if you look at Solomon's life, you see how his wives (among whom were Ammonites and Moabites) turned his heart away to foreign gods (1 Kings 11:1). Now, it's true that some from these countries were faithful to God (Ruth 1:4,16; 1 Chron 11:39), but these were the exception. Steve |
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454 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115520 | ||
Hello ischus, Let me quote from the Expositor's Bible Commentary on the issue of putting away the foreign wives. Though the actions of Ezra and later of Nehemiah may strike some readers as harsh, they were more than racial or cultural measures and were necessary to preserve the spiritual heritage of Israel. Both from the principle and from exceptions to the rule, warnings against intermarriage were clearly concerned not so much about racial miscegenation as about spiritual adulteration. David Bossman ("Ezra's Marriage Reform: Israel Redefined," BTh 9 [1979]: 32-38) argues that Ezra's purification of the people followed a "priestly ideal of separation from all that is unclean." What happened to a Jewish community that was lax concerning intermarriage can be seen from the example of the Elephantine settlement contemporary with Ezra and Nehemiah. Intermarriages took place among both lay leaders and priests. According to Porten (Archives, p. 174), "Some of the pagans who married Jews may have, like the early Samaritans, continued to worship their ancestral god(s) at the same time that they adopted the worship of YHW. Conversely, some of these Jews occasionally expressed devotion to the god(s) of their spouses at the same time that they continued to revere YHW." The Jews at Elephantine worshiped not only Yahweh, but the goddess Anath-Yahweh (cf. Jer 7:16-18; B. Porten, "The Religion of the Jews of Elephantine in Light of the Hermopolis Papyri," JNES 28 [1969]: 116-21). Myers (The World of the Restoration, p. 122) concludes: "It is not accidental that Jewish communities in exile gradually disintegrated--for example, the one at Elephantine.... A pure cult with a pure people conducted in their religious and domestic affairs in a pure language was essential." I don't understand the comparison with Jer 29. In that passage the Lord directs them to marry and have families, but it does not say to marry the Babylonian women. I'm not sure where you were going with that. Steve |
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455 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115760 | ||
Hello ischus, The fact that they said that they had sinned by marrying foreign wives (Ezra 10:2-3) tells me that they were NOT fully commited to Yahweh when they married. As for the divorce being commanded: I checked several commentaries and all agreed that the sin had to be dealt with, and the only way to deal with it was by divorce. As for marrying Gentiles: You are correct, but they both needed to be faithful in order for it to be proper. Even in the New Testament, Scripture says divorce is permitted when an unbelieving spouse wants to leave (1 Cor 7:15). Steve |
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456 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115800 | ||
Hello ischus, I'm reading verses 12-16 without separation. Paul tells them it is better not to divorce, but if the unbelieving spouse wants to leave, then he/she should be allowed to leave. Steve |
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457 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | srbaegon | 115807 | ||
Hello ischus, My point was that there is a legitimate time to divorce. I agree the example was not the best. My support is their own confession of sin. Remember, it was the people that came to Ezra to confess the sin. All Ezra did was pray aloud the commandment not to marry women of Canaan (Ezra 9:12). They knew what they did was wrong. How could one assume that the Gentile spouses were not moving them away from Yahweh? Steve |
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458 | a righteous man | Job 1:8 | srbaegon | 58271 | ||
Hello Steve Can I join? I can sing high tenor. Steve (We might be a tad outside the boundaries.) |
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459 | . | Job 31:1 | srbaegon | 149538 | ||
Hello CurtisNeeley, Nudes have been foisted as art for centuries. They're not. Before Adam sinned, he and Eve were naked without shame (Gen 2:25). When sin enter the world, they were ashamed, recognized it, and attempted to cover it (Gen 3:7). From then on, nudity in public was considered shameful. Uncovering ourselves is an act of rebellion regardless of how artful or enlightened one pretends to be. Steve |
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460 | A prayer for protection | Psalm | srbaegon | 54957 | ||
Hello JuliaMoliere Welcome! I would recommend going to http://www.bibleoutlines.com/ and checking out their devotional commentary. As for changing your user id, try sending an e-mail to studybibleforum@lockman.org. Steve |
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