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801 | Did the Holy Spirit go to Hell? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 117886 | ||
"The question here is to determine what Paul meant by the lower parts of the earth." (In saying, "He ascended," what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower parts of the earth? [10] He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.) Ephes. 4:9-10 (ESV) 'More problematic still is Ephesians 4:9,10 where Paul writes: 'Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all heavens, that He might fill all things. 'The question here is to determine what Paul meant by the lower parts of the earth. 'Paul explains that Christ "ascended far above all the heavens" and contrasts that to His having "descended into the lower parts of the earth." Many feel this may simply be a reference to His incarnation (i.e., His descent to earth) and that it is simply a dramatic comparison of the lowliness of earth in comparison to His high heavenly home (Cf. Isaiah 44:23 for another reference to the "lower parts of the earth" indicating, poetically, the earth itself). Others hold that the reference is to Christ's humiliation in enduring death. (There is a third view -- that Christ did descend to hell in order to make a proclamation -- but we will examine that as we look at the next passage in question.)' 'When turning to the Scriptures, however, a certain ambiguity again arises. The idea that Christ "descended into hell" finds its basis on a small group of passages, all of which appear to open up a variety of views or interpretations. 'Perhaps the clearest reference is found in Acts 2:24-32 (Cf. Psalm 16:10-11 and Acts 13:34-37). Peter, preaching, quotes a prophetic Psalm and goes on to explain that Christ was not "abandoned to Hades" (2:31). As noted scholar A.T. Robertson points out, "Hades is the unseen world, Hebrew Sheol . . . It does not mean the place of punishment, though both heaven and the place of torment are in Hades (Luke 16:23). 'Death and Hades are strictly parallel terms: he who is dead is in Hades' (Page)."[xxxix] Therefore, the most that can be legitimately concluded from this reference is that not only did our Lord's identification with mankind lead to His death on the cross, but He subsequently experienced that which any man would (i.e., the separation of soul and body). 'In Romans 10:6,7, Paul quotes a passage from Deuteronomy that some take as referring to a "descent into hell" by Christ. However, it also appears as though this reference is simply alluding to Christ's death. 'Commenting on the seventh verse -- 'Who will descent into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead), R.C.H. Lenski comments: '"Abyss" is the extreme opposite of "heaven." Paul himself indicates in what sense he uses this term, namely as referring to Christ's death and resurrection . . . The reference is to Christ's resurrection, to His going down into the abyss of death and the grave and His being brought up from the dead in his glorious resurrection.[xl] 'Apparently, then, these two references most-likely refer to Christ's death, and not a three-day visit in hell as the "Faith" teachers believe. (...) 'Whatever the interpretation held, it is clear that this passage is hardly a substantial basis for teaching that Jesus Christ descended to hell as a mortal man to be tortured by the devil.' _______________ The above is an excerpt from a longer article. To read more go to:(http://www.equip.org/free/DP060.htm) |
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802 | what passages bind and rebuke satan | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118403 | ||
Actually, as presented in your answer, none of your Scripture quotes contain the word "Satan." You are absolutely correct when you say: "Jesus rebuked and resisted the devil." But the archangel Michael didn't. Instead he said "the Lord rebuke you." [8] Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones. [9] But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you." [10] But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively. Jude 1:8-10 (ESV) |
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803 | what passages bind and rebuke satan | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118404 | ||
Show me the evidence! Nowhere in the Bible have I ever found any mention of "plead (or pleading) the blood." It just isn't there. Don't take my word for it. Look it up in a concordance. |
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804 | what passages bind and rebuke satan | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118459 | ||
OVERSTATING THE BELIEVER’S AUTHORITY The notion that people can order Satan about when they can't even get their kids to do what they tell them is truly astonishing. "Nowhere does Scripture state that believers have authority over Satan himself." STATEMENT DA082 The Bondage Maker: Examining the Message and Method of Neil T. Anderson (Part Two: Spiritual Warfare And The "Truth Encounter") by Elliot Miller "OVERSTATING THE BELIEVER’S AUTHORITY, Anderson’s entire approach to spiritual warfare, is based on the authority of the believer over the devil. This is manifest particularly in his emphasis on "binding and loosing": "[Anderson writes:] God has granted us the authority to "bind what shall be bound in heaven" (Matthew 16:19; 18:18). In other words, we have the spiritual capacity to discern God’s will and then, confident in the finished work of Christ, proclaim it in the spiritual realm. We have authority over demons as long as we remain strong in the Lord and operate in His strength (see Ephesians 6:l0)....The effectiveness of binding the strongman (see Matthew 12:20 [sic]) is dependent upon the leading of the Holy Spirit and subject to the scope and limits of the written Word of God.’ "In his instruction on how to help others find freedom in Christ, Anderson writes that the goal: "is to avoid all demonic activity which would short-circuit their ability to participate in the process. With this in mind, I usually begin the steps to freedom with a prayer similar to this: Dear heavenly Father....I take my position with Christ, seated with Him in the heavenlies. Because all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Him. I now claim that authority over all enemies of the Lord Jesus Christ in and around this room and especially (name). You have told us that where two or three are gathered in Your name You are in our midst, and that whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven. We agree that every evil spirit that is in or around (name) be bound to silence. They cannot inflict any pain, speak to (names)’s mind, or prevent (names) from hearing, seeing, or speaking. Now in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I command you, Satan, and all your hosts to release (names) and remain bound and gagged so that (names) will be able to obey God." (Elliot Miller continues:) "The biblical evidence suggesting that believers have been given direct authority over the demonic realm is scantier than is usually supposed. Anderson applies Matthew 12:29 ("first binds the strong man") to believers, when it is obvious from the preceding seven verses that Jesus was referring to Himself alone. Matthew 18:18 ("bind" and "loose") refers to church discipline, not spiritual warfare, as the larger context makes entirely clear, Anderson uses Ephesians 1:18-21 (Christ is seated above all authorities and powers) combined with Ephesians 2:5-6 (believers are seated with Him) as proof of the believer’s authority over the devil. But rather than dealing with spiritual warfare, these passages speak of Christ’s exaltation by the Father and the believer’s acceptance and exaltation before the Father in Christ." One should therefore be careful not to infer too much from them. "Nowhere does Scripture state that believers have authority over Satan himself. Those biblical passages that do speak of believers’ authority over the demonic realm apply strictly to driving demons out of lost human beings (Matt. 10:1; Mark 6:7; Luke 10:19; Acts 8:7). They are never applied to pastoral counseling or the believer’s personal battle with the devil. "This does not mean Christians must accept defeat in spiritual warfare. Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus has won the victory over the devil and all authority has been given to Him (Matt. 28:18; Eph. 1:20-22; Col. 2:15; 1 Pet. 3:22; etc.). While believers do not have the prerogative to say, "I command you, Satan (to do this or not do that)," Jesus does. Believers are indeed positionally seated with Him in heavenly places and are thus made partakers in His victory. They therefore can be confident that if they resist the devil, he will flee from them (James 4:7)." (http://www.equip.org/search/). This article first appeared in the Summer 1998 issue of the Christian Research Journal. |
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805 | what passages bind and rebuke satan | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118603 | ||
If Acts is a blueprint for all church history, where in the Book of Acts does one find INDIVIDUALS SEEKING for the Holy Spirit and EXPECTING TO RECEIVE TONGUES as the sign that He's come? This is a SPECIFIC question that calls for a SPECIFIC answer. Cite the chapter and verse in Acts where one finds INDIVIDUALS SEEKING for the Holy Spirit and EXPECTING TO RECEIVE TONGUES as the sign that He's come. If an answer to this question does not include chapter and verse, then the question has not been answered. This is a question that deserves an answer. The choices are: A) Nowhere in the Book of Acts does one find INDIVIDUALS SEEKING for the Holy Spirit and EXPECTING TO RECEIVE TONGUES as the sign that He's come. B) In the Book of Acts one does find INDIVIDUALS SEEKING for the Holy Spirit and EXPECTING TO RECEIVE TONGUES as the sign that He's come. This is found in Acts chapter _____ and verse ______. Choose one or the other. [DO077-1] |
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806 | language Jesus speak | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118916 | ||
Jesus spoke in Aramaic 'It is almost universally accepted that Jesus and His disciples spoke in Aramaic. The theory that the New Testament was written in Hebrew is without basis, though I believe that I have heard some suggest that some of the sources may have been in Aramaic. The simple fact is that the Jews lost their facility in Hebrew. That is why the Old Testament had to be translated into the Greek language (this translation is known as the Septuagint). 'You will remember that when Jesus cried out from the cross, "Eli, Eli, LAMA, SABACHTHANI"(Matthew 27:46-47), He was citing the Hebrew text of Psalm 22:1, and no one there seemed to understand it. They thought Jesus was calling for Elijah. How could this fellow’s (Norman Willis') theory* hold up if no one at the cross could understand the Hebrew words Jesus spoke? (Hebrew and Aramaic are related languages, but not the same.)' ____________________ *Norman Willis' theory. Norman Willis claims that the NT may have been written in Hebrew instead of Greek. (http://www.bible.org/docs/qa/) |
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807 | language Jesus speak | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 118917 | ||
'Most of the Old Testament quotations in the New Testament are taken from the Greek Bible (the Septuagint)' (page 198 Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1995). ____________________ 'Jesus and His Apostles quoted the Greek Septuagint - of this there can be no question. In order to quote the Greek Septuagint, one must speak Greek. (...) 'Thus, we can say with certainty, in the light of over 5000 Greek witnesses to the New Testament, and based upon historical evidence, that it is an absolute impossibility that the New Testament was written in any language other than Greek' (http://www.christianseparatist.org/ast/hist/aramaic.htm) ____________________ 'Jesus,[6] the apostles and the New Testament writers also accepted the Septuagint, using it in conjunction with the Hebrew. 'The Septuagint version having been current for about three centuries before the time when the books of the New Testament were written, it is not surprising that the Apostles should have used it more often than not in making citations from the Old Testament. They used it as an honestly-made version in pretty general use at the time when they wrote. They did not on every occasion give an authoritative translation of each passage de novo, but they used what was already familiar to the ears of converted Hellenists, when it was sufficiently accurate to suit the matter in hand.[8]' 6 One example of Jesus' use of the Septuagint is found in His refutation of the Devil in Matthew 4.4. The Hebrew in Deuteronomy 8.3 has "mouth of the LORD"; the Septuagint has "mouth of God". It is this latter that Jesus quotes. 8 Lancelot C. L. Brenton, "Introduction" to The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English (Peabody, MA, USA: Hendrickson Publishers, 1986, 1992), p. iv. (http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org/site/articles/lxx.asp) ____________________ When all else fails, look it up. We need to do some research and look at facts and forget what we always thought, what we would have thought, or whether some idea seems strange to us. |
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808 | John 4: If Jesus did not baptize, THEN? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 119162 | ||
But Jesus' disciples were really the ones doing the baptizing, and not Jesus himself. John 4:2 Contemporary English Version (CEV) John 4:1-3 :: New Living Translation (NLT) 1Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard, "Jesus is baptizing and making more disciples than John" 2(though Jesus himself didn't baptize them--his disciples did). 3So he left Judea to return to Galilee. John 4:2 :: New International Reader's Version (NIRV) But in fact Jesus was not baptizing. His disciples were. Grace and shalom, kalos |
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809 | speaking in tongues | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 122441 | ||
'First Corinthians 13:8 says "Whether there be tongues, they shall cease" (KJV). Wouldn't this indicate the baptism in the Holy Spirit was only for those first followers 2,000 years ago? 'In order to understand this statement we need to examine its context. Paul said that prophecies will cease, tongues will be stilled, knowledge will pass away, and perfection will come (verses 8-10). Paul was speaking of a time yet future both to his original readers and to us. When the kingdom of our Lord is ushered in, perfection will come and there will be no further need of Spirit-given knowledge, prophecy, and tongues. They will disappear because they will be no longer needed. But these operations of the Spirit are still needed today. 'There is no indication in Scripture that tongues would cease at the end of the first century. Tongues are to be a part of the life of the church in every generation until Christ returns to set up His perfect kingdom. Paul's perception was that spiritual gifts would be operational until that day (1 Corinthians 1:7, 8).' ____________________ (http://ag.org/top/beliefs/baptism_hs/baptmhs_12_tonguescease.cfm) |
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810 | speaking in tongues | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 122443 | ||
Is there a Bible verse or verses that clearly indicate tongues will cease by itself? I don't see it in 1 Cor 13:8-10. How does this passage make a distinction between the cessation of tongues and the cessation of knowledge and prophecy? AMPLIFIED 1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. As for prophecy (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), it will be fulfilled and pass away; as for tongues, they will be destroyed and cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away [it will lose its value and be superseded by truth]. |
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811 | speaking in tongues | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 122473 | ||
Steve: Thank you for your posts on this subject. After posting my question to you, I did some research on my own. I found strong evidence that in 1 Cor 13:8-10 'Paul uses a different word for the end of the gift of languages, thus indicating it will "cease" by itself, as it did at the end of the apostolic age' (MacArthur Study Bible, 1997, Word Publishing). Good work, Steve, kalos |
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812 | speaking in tongues | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 122478 | ||
"The key to the meaning of any verse comes from the paragraph, not just from the individual words." Tim: I may not agree with your every interpretation of Scripture, but I must commend you on your application of sound principles of biblical interpretation. You set a good example for all of us. Thank you for a carefully detailed discussion of these verses and their meaning. First, you get into the meaning of the Greek verbs. Then, you go even further and look at these verses in the broader context and apply the principle of analogia scriptura, (the analogy of Scripture. In other words, the principle that we must compare Scripture with Scripture in order to understand its full and proper sense.) This is a wise approach to biblical interpretation. In the following quotation Gregory Koukl discusses the principles involved. (I quote this for the benefit of all of us.) 'Never read a Bible verse. That's right, never read a Bible verse. Instead, always read a paragraph-at least.' 'I read the paragraph, not just the verse. I take stock of the relevant material above and below. Since the context frames the verse and gives it specific meaning, I let it tell me what's going on. Meaning Always Flows From the Top Down 'This works because of a basic rule of all communication: Meaning always flows from the top down, from the larger units to the smaller units, not the other way around. The key to the meaning of any verse comes from the paragraph, not just from the individual words.' Grace to you, kalos ____________________ Never Read a Bible Verse by Gregory Koukl (www.str.org/free/studies/neverrea.htm) |
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813 | speaking in tongues | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 122487 | ||
For the record... Tim: I do agree with you more than 95 percent of the time. kalos |
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814 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123021 | ||
CDBJ: Your hearty "AMEN" is appreciated. I have another 75 posts on the subject of ETERNAL SECURITY vs ETERNAL INSECURITY. I'll gladly use them if I need to. It's no trouble. Grace to you, kalos |
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815 | Where does membership come from? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123207 | ||
You write: "It bothers me that fellow believers have the audacity to add conditions onto the Lord's salvation (Romans 10:8)...membership is not a prerequisite for salvation." Did I miss something? Who in this thread claims that church membership is required for salvation? |
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816 | Where does membership come from? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123256 | ||
We are not interested in what you personally believe or don't believe. Other posters and I have given Scripture references to back up our position. You need to provide Scripture to back up yours. Anyone can assert anything. Show me the evidence. What Scripture(s) supports your assertion? |
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817 | Where does membership come from? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123258 | ||
Show me the evidence! What Bible references support your opinions? Every time you submit a posting, you agree to the following: "To adhere to StudyBibleForum's intended purpose, please read the following before submitting a post: "1. This post is biblically based and whenever possible, I have included Bible references to support it." |
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818 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123558 | ||
Security or presumption? According to the Scriptures, I believe in eternal security; I do not believe in eternal presumption. 2 Cor 13: 5 NASB. Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail the test? |
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819 | I'm guessing, cause they're his disciple | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 123905 | ||
1 Kings 17:21 The NET Bible He stretched out over the boy three times and called out to the Lord, “O Lord, my God, please let this boy’s breath return to him.” ____________________ http://netbible.bible.org/ |
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820 | What are the essentials | NT general Archive 1 | kalos | 124268 | ||
Where in this thread did anyone suggest that reciting creeds SHOULD take the place of straight-up Bible teaching? Hank, in his posts, never suggested such a thing. |
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