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1181 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 69101 | ||
Hank: Well by gully if the NIV was good enough for Paul, then that's ok for me! Ha, Ha. Bet you never heard it that way before. Remember Missouri is the Shoe Me State. I do live in Missouri, and have adapted quite well. I noticed that thr response was plenty about this. The good point is so many have selected a version of God's Word that they read and speaks to their heart. How wonderful we have it to be able to chose from so many translations! I am reminded of how many do not have a single word of the Bible in their language. Blessings. justme |
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1182 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | justme | 69099 | ||
Sowardman007: Don, I have the feeling you are filled with a lot of issues bothering you. In compassion let me remind you Jesus said this is not our home. What you see and are expressing remind me so much of how mistreated God's Choosen wer abused. Your note makes me feel you are a sensitive person who see's how unfair life is. Jesus said if the world hated Him the word will hate us also. Speaking as a person that has experienced much physical pain, and some very deep emotional wounds, Christ Jesus will be with us no mater what we endure. Romans 8:37-39. I am reminde of pPaul who said several times he had learned to be content under all circumstances. This contentment is something only the Holy Spirit gives. No matter what our outward experiences bring, I can be content knowing my Lord Jesus is within me. Don there is no government that has no injustice, or the rich have control, and that total freedom is a absolute reality. Having said that, I spent one year in a Naval Hospital, and for more than 34 years had to live with the results of foolish selfish warmongers. I still can think of no other place I would rather live. If you think we are oppresed here then you need a reality check. I am sincerely sorry about what your step-father said. Let me bluntly say I would die to protect my family in such a situation. I have several Amish friends and some consevertive Mennonite, (horse and buggy) brothers in the Lord which My Wife and I have broken through and established a special bond of Christian love. Not all would allow what your step-dad said he would. Don, you sound bitter. I hope you find some peace and get a Christian world view, so you can enjoy being a Christian, rather than looking at faults and more caused to tackel. Peace to you Don. justme |
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1183 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | justme | 69093 | ||
Sordman007:yes "marriage with out legal paper work" is wrong! Boy I have hear this many time by couples wanting just a religious wedding, but not on paper. That's pure Missouri, Mule dung! If the man dies after living and having children with this woman, who did not think a "piece of paper" was important, the "wife? and children would get NOTHING. No Social Security or help as they should. This arrangement may be fun for the man, as he can walk off and live with someone else at anytime! Where is the certificate of divorce here? Did not even Moses address this "putting away"? Jesus said who ever sends away (puts away) his wife and someone else marries her, she becomes an a forniacator. Don, you are twisting scriptures! As I asked before show me a verse that gives God's approval for plural wifes! There is none! Now you have taken it even further by saying living together is a Biblical marriage? Don, take off your blinders. How does the world view this any different than from what is more commonly called "playing house"? Don, I care enough to say, you are in left field and the ball game ended a long time ago. These aguements were popular in the early 18 hundreds. These justifications were not valid then, and there still not valid or acceptable now. A Christian is to be above reproch, and this is below civilized standards. Surely you are not so unothrodox as to see this is a seriously afront to basic Christian wisdom and ethics? Think on these. I look to hear again from you. justme |
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1184 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 69034 | ||
Hank: I have ment some so called "esteemed scholars". I admit the Love of Christ was clearly lacking. But they had achived esteemed degrees. Education does not make a spiritual man or woman. However, Preparation H does not require any esteem, just a need for it's use. justme |
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1185 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 69032 | ||
Hank: I could have made the list longer of versions that I personally think have serious flaws. For example NRSV, RSV, NEB, and several study Bibles made by some Bible Teachers that use a good Bible version. I was forced at Midwester Baptist Theological Seminary to use the RSV. I still look at my notes, but rarely, if ever read that Bible. I noticed you did not mention the NIV in your lists of responsible translations, was that for me to think it is not a responsible translation? I no of no other translation that has such a srtong commitment to the authority and infallibility of the Bible as the NIV. I ask this with respect, not meaning to stirr the pot. I thought I read sometime ago that you liked the New Living Bible. I looked at it but it simply is not what I was interested in. You mentioned reading ability, and the KJV,and the NKJV are at atleast an 11th grade reading level. What should we do for those who read at a 6th grade level, from which I have read is the avrage American non-college educated, persons reading level? I doubt I could encourage anyone to use the Good News Bible. I think you are very fortunate to have the command of the English language that you have. Your words flow like glass. There are few I know that have the ability you have been blessed with. Thank you for your imput. justme |
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1186 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | justme | 69012 | ||
Sordman007: I do respect your honesty, and the seriousness of deep conviction. Let me say again, you have a very well thought out presentation of your view point. I have never read anyone with such depth of study, and knowledge of scripture in regards to plural marriages. I clearly see you have devoted much time in studing this subject. I personally would not, nor could not have such a well defined, chrisp and clear defense to rebut your theory. I do agree to disagree with you, with kindness and respect. I think your bias clouds your understanding. When we have our mind made up, and so well organized with selected scripture, that seems to back up our theory, it is impossible for others to prove to us what might be an error, in understanding the wide scope of scripture. Rather than address the scripture you used, may I use what Jesus said? With out exact quotes. Jesus said to render to Ceaser that what is Ceasers, and to God the things that are His. Well Ceaser is our governing laws in the USA. We are told to obey the law. There is no way I can see that plural marriages is not a legal problem. Thus making it a moral problem with the LORD ALMIGHTY. I present this theory in respect and kindness. However Don, I wonder why such an issue, that is pretty outlandish, in today's world in the USA, occupies so much of your conversation on the forum? I sincerely doubt that your view point has much impact in the general interest in the lives of most Christians in the USA. I would much more like to read such well thought out theory on predestination, or Millennisum, or even eternal security! (Which eternal security has been a topic so many times this year we are all still holding our breath for a while.) In all kindness, I do not know of a single seminary professor in the two I attended that would give your theory any creditability. The word that comes to my mind is scripture twisting. I mean this with no offense to your personhood. I do feel and think you need to look at the lives of the people in the Bible who had plural wives and see that there was consequences for stepping out of God's direct will, into His tollerable will. There is quite a difference between the two. I have yet to read any where in the Bible that says pulral wives is good, and is God's will for men and women. Please think on what I have said. I look for your further dialogue. justme |
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1187 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 69001 | ||
BdK: Your message came in all in red. My PC Cillen said this message is being watched. I wonder what that is all about? justme |
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1188 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68985 | ||
BdK: With so many different study Bibles, and versions, not to mention the kind of covers to choose from, shelf space is limited. Here, finding genuine leather is hard to locate. The Bible publishers are choking thenselves, and it is hard to find knowledgeable sales persons who know the different features. I have all I need and I am glad. justme |
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1189 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68978 | ||
BdK: This AM I called Zondervan. I told them of the poor reviews the TNIV was getting, and that I was questioning why they publisher it? They took my phone number and said someone in the review part of Zondervan would call me to further talk. They did call back, and I was asked to review the TNIV and give a honest opinion, good or bad. What are the TNIV weakness and strong points that I observe. I am totally blown away by their reaction. So thank you for the suggestion. Peace and Mercy to us all. justme |
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1190 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68977 | ||
Cyclist: I have not read or seen any any stats on prayer, I cant help but wonder on that one. I have used the Daily Bread from it's begining! I found it to be the best for me. If you read the suggested readings below the daily verse you go through the Bible in a year. I have not been as consistant with that part. I have to make special effort to have prayer and Bible reading every day. I feel so empty until I take time alone to pray and read. Nice to hear from you. justme |
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1191 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68962 | ||
Timothy Paul:-) I am glad I have found someone else who believes what I have said for the last 30 years. "The best Bible is the one you will read." (With the exception of the New World Translation!) Just for some facts aboyt Christians reading the Bible. Less then 10 percent of all Christiams read the Bible once a day. Less than 20 percent read it once a month! Most dust it off on the coffee table, when the pastor comes to visit. I read this a long time ago in an old Bible, "This Book will keep me from sin; or sin will keep me from this book" I have rermembered this for more than 45 years. I think some of these old word slogans stick with us. Maybe we should print them more often. "Only one life will soon be past, only what's done for Christ will last!" justme |
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1192 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68853 | ||
Morant61: Thank you for yoy most welcome suggestion. I shall do exactlly what you suggested. After reading Brad K's note I am deeply sadned. I too use the NIV and the updated NASB sid by side. I feel that way I have a fuller scope of meaning of the Scripture. Thank you for the suggestion. justme |
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1193 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68851 | ||
BdK: Blessings upon you dear friend! I am so glad that I have had some one who has actually had one to read first hand! Di you like to NIV? I for the life of me can not understand why so many "new translations are flooding the market. Nor can I understand why Zondervan would publish such a weak revision. Zondervan told me it has seen slow sales. I think they will see why soon. Here in the Mid-West, or as I think is just as right, the Mid-East the KJV reighns. Most Christian book stores have a wide range of KJV and a fair amount of NIV but NASB is lucky to have ten percent of the shelf space. I am sad at your news, but thank you for you evaluation. Blessings and Peace to you:-) justme |
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1194 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68780 | ||
Searcher56:-) Point well taken. I want nothing to be a distraction to the forum, you or the Lord Jesus. Peace and blessings. justme |
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1195 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | justme | 68779 | ||
Sordman007: Out of being a bit confused by your questions and notes, can you clarify for me what you are attempting to get across? I think I read you are not against monogany. However I get the impression you are likewise not against plural wives. Am I correct in my understanding? Why is this an area that you have such a strong interest to dialogue about. You are the first person that has ever brought this up in such a well thought out way. In following the theology of your thoughts, a man could fall in love with another woman while married, and rather than divorce his first wife, if his first wife allowed, he could add the new loved woman to the family? This would be acceptable in several countries now. Under this theological assumption the only position the church would not allow him to serve is Elder or Deacon. Am I right? Looking at this just from a pratical stand point, few women in America would find this acceptable. Financially what man could afford plural wives? I can't imagine two women getting along in this situation. We see that in many situations of certian sects of religious groups in America. Sad, but often there is incest involved in these plural wives marriages, which clearly violate Biblical standards. What are your thoughts? justme |
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1196 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68773 | ||
BdK" :-) Please let me know in complete honesty what you think. How much was the TNIV? Thanks for checking it out, proberly several on the forum will eagerly awaite your response. Blessings! justme |
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1197 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68771 | ||
Searcher56: Have you personally read the parts that would indicate the TNIV is this flawed? It is not if I was belittled. The point is that you should recognize that yourself, without me haveing to point it out to you. Do you see the difference? I have talked to Zondervan and they dispute the things some publisity has said about the TNIV. To be honest if it is like the NRSV I would be very upset. As for me giving up on my question I already did. I would also say that is my choice and not yours to make. Your attitude is abrupt, and that concerns me. I did not think you were so sharp. Peace. justme. |
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1198 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68767 | ||
Searcher56: Have you personally read the parts that would indicate the TNIV is this flawed? It is not if I was belittled. The point is that you should recognize that yourself, without me haveing to point it out to you. Do you see the difference? I have talked to Zondervan and they dispute the things some publisity has said about the TNIV. To be honest if it is like the NRSV I would be very upset. As for me giving up on my question I already did. I would also say that is my choice and not yours to make. Your attitude is abrupt, and that concerns me. I did not think you were so sharp. Peace. justme. |
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1199 | Do you own a TNIV? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 68752 | ||
Searcher56: I read a note some time ago. The note read; "Lord help my words to be sweet and tender; for tommrow I may have to eat them," I wanted FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE TO TELL ME about the TNIV. I am from the "SHOW ME" state, Missouri. I am stubborn like a "Missouri mule". I do not rely on second or third hand information! I may just have to buy one to actually know for sure. Your remark, about boys and girls and hoping I was aware of the difference. Belittling me, does not become you. You are above this. I consider you to be mature Christian. If I have shown some area that needs improvement or more wisdom, I would be pleased to be made aware of such. I am continuing to mature in my Christian growth, but have a long way to go. I hope to hear again from you, after you have had time pray about this. justme |
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1200 | Does God endorse polygamy? | 1 Kin 11:3 | justme | 68570 | ||
Sordman007:I have read the notes you have written and the answers thar were sent back to you. You bring some interesting points to the forum. I wish you would take a few minuets of your time and tell us something about yourself in the Update User Info. on the top under of Resources. That way we can respond better, and know you a litter better. You are clearly well educated, and know much more than the basic Christian. That tells me you have studied hard or been educated someplace. I enjoy reading notes that offer a challenge to ridged thought. I hope to enter this dialogue some other time, but welcome to the forum. justme |
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