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341 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29779 | ||
Dear Tim, Can you explain between Almighty and Mighty I think there are differences between the two. Ge 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people; Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Or you will say that Isaiah is imprudent to wrote they Mighty instead of Almighty. You said:like Phil. 2:5-11. This passage clearly shows that Jesus possessed equality with God, but did not cling to it. Instead, He lowered Himself by taking on human nature. Here in this passages that you quoted, of course He is God He did not cling to His being God before He form as a human. Because He is God before the birth of Mary. But not His equality to God the father. Meaning His not cling to what he was before, but not as a God the father before. It is very clear that Jesus himself taught us that His Father is greater than He is why we should not believed in Him? Why we keep trying to made out our toughts that they are equal? It is Jesus Christ Himself accepted that His Father is Greater than Him. Is Jesus Christ lie to us? Jesus Christ also said that it is Father knows when is the time of His second coming, Is that possible that if they are equal He dont know something that know of His father? Tim, it is Jesus said that His father is greater than He is, is this hard to believed? Do you think its a trick? if we are really a follower of Him we must believed in Him instead of come out of any conclusions that not mention by Him. As a pentecostal before, I am belong to the same believed, but I think it is lack of biblical explainations since it was Jesus Himself said that they are not equal so I have to believed in Him instead of conclusions. Tim, I am not saying that trinitarian believe is wrong, who is can justify us people who is really right or wrong it is only God. That is why I am always pray that God may help me if I done something wrong that I dont know. If I define them wrong in my shorcoming as a human may God forgive me and help to make me strong in my weak believe. I know the most important is the great two commandments and the other passages will show us as a guideline how to perform the two gratest commandments. God bless, Johnny |
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342 | Trinity? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29780 | ||
Dear Tim, Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. This verse are the most favorite verses of Jehoves Witnesses. Here Tim, we have consider the time when God said said this to His servant. At this time the existence of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are not yet porclaim to the people of Israel. Adam Moses and other indeed have no idea that there will be Jesus Christ. In the new Testament indeed people belong to that generations that there is Holy Spirit until Jesus Christ told this to His apostle. That is whay it is really true that time is really correct that there is no God before Him and After Him because the proclaimation for Jesus Christ are not yet done. It is the same thing that before at the time of Adam and moses they have no idea that if they are going to die there is heaven and hell awaits for them. Do you mean we are not going to believe that there is no heaven and hell because this not reveal for them? or we say that the plan of God changing in the matter of time. Because before there is no heaven proclaim and the time of Jesus Christ there was? Now my challenge for you Tim, is could you show me the verses that will stated that God the Father and God the Son and Holy Spirit are equal. Please show me also that Jesus Christ proclaim that God the Father and Jesus Christ are equal. Did you say that there are three and co-equal in a God head could please show me that there are teaching of Jesus Christ about that. When Jesus Christ said that Father is Greater than Him is He telling lie? because you said they are co-equal. Who is telling the truth you or Jesus Christ? I did answer your question Tim, please I hope you will explain my questions. Please forgive me for my line of questioning, trust me I am enjoying this disscussion. God bless, Johnny |
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343 | Trinity? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29796 | ||
Dear Tim, Thanks for the response, your answers to the the challenge I am sorry I am not convince with those. Phil 2:6 I did explain that to you. John 1:1 John mention that Jesus Christ was the word and the word was with God and the word was God" but not mentioned there the they are equal with God the Father. I do believe that Jesus is God. John 14:6 Of course Jesus Christ will pray for His father to send the Holy Spirit. But did you not answer when Jesus clearly stated that His father is greater than He is is he lie Tim? Is that in the nature of Jesus to lie? Why it is very hard to us to accept that Jesus Christ himself accepted that the Father is Greater than He is. Is Jesus lie when He says this? When Jesus said that only the Father knows when He sent back here to judge, is He lie? If he dont lie, why you dont believe on Him? instead come out with the conclusions that they are equal. Please answer this. As I told you He never stated that they are equal He always said that His father is greater than Him. If you are not believe what Jesus said how could believe in any explaination,. Please show me clearly the verses that will stated that Jesus says "Me and the Father are equal"! God bless, Johnny P.S. I came from Philippines. |
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344 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29800 | ||
Dear Kalos, I know those verses that you quoted. He never say there Tha Me and the Father are equal. Can show me the verse that will clearly stated or claim "Me and the Father and the Holy Spirit are equal" can you? My question to my brother is this. Joh 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. Joh 14:28 ¶ Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. When Jesus stated those verses, is He lie? Yes or NO! If no why it is very hard to us to accept that Jesus accepted that the Father is greater than Him? Do you think the word of Jesus is not worth to believe. Why instead of accepting the teaching of Christ that Father is greater than Him, you come out with the conclusion that they are eqaul? When Jesus said the Father is Greater than He is you must believe in Him. Did you beleive in Him? If you beleive why you cannot accept His word? Please answer those question not with conclusion. God bless, Johnny |
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345 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29802 | ||
Dear Robert, Is Jesus Christ lie? Why we cannot accepted His word when He said The Father is Greater Than I am. Is His word not worth to believe? Do you believe in Him? Why it is hard to accept His word? Is he lie? Your statement:The subject of the Godhead is an awesome truth which transcends the capability of finite minds. Nevertheless, God in his word has shown us that " For there are three which bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one" (1 John 5:7) Are they one on what? eqaulity or plan? they are one in plan. Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. They are one in taking care of His flock! Take a look of this verse: Joh 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: Granting that we become "one" of them how many persons now the God has you in what person you will become? a billion persons of God? We have to understand what "one would it be" before come out of a conclusions. Back to my question. Is he lie? When He said that His Father is greater than Him it is true or not? It is true it is true we must accepted it instead of making a kind of conclusions that as you said no human mind can comprehend. Do you believe that Jesus is telling the truth? if you believe accept His word. If not okey come out with your conclusions. The logic is simple, If he is telling the truth believed Him! HE said the Father is Greater than He is believed it He said it not you, not me nobody else it is Jesus said that! He said the father is greater than He is I beleived in Him instead of the other conclusions. God bless, JOhnny |
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346 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29805 | ||
After He died He rose again and set down in the right hand of God. Who sets in the right hand of God the Father or the Son? Even when Jesus Christ rose again it is the same thing He never claim that they are equal. Did He lie my friend? When He said that the Father is greater than He is is he telling the truth or not? If he telling the truth accept it not come out with your own conclusions that they are equal, Jesus never said that. I do believe that anything that He said is true, so when He said that The Father is Greater than He is I beleived on it, He said it not you, not me not the conclusions of theologian but Jesus Himself! I must believed in Him not to any one else! Do you believe in Him my friend? If not its up to you. God bless, Johnny |
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347 | Trinity? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29814 | ||
Dear Tim, Thanks you too. God bless, Johnny |
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348 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29823 | ||
Love Fountain, I do believe that God loves me that is why I keep His commandments and I believed on it. When Jesus Said that His Father is Greater than He is, I know it is true, and I am going to believed it, not you not concusions but Him. He himself stated it even accepted it. It is the people cannot accept what Jesus has accepted. He stated that His Father is greater than He is, He stated it not as a conclusion but a direct acceptance that His Father is greater than He is, but the people come out with thier own conclusion that they are equal. There is no problem, Jesus accepted it that His Father is Greater than He is, I believed on it it His word not yours not mine. If you are not believeing in the word of Jesus Christ, whose word you are going to believe in? God bless, Johnny |
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349 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29832 | ||
Dear Love Fountain, 1. I do believed that Jesus Christ is God. Scriptures stated that His Father who is the one reveal to us that Jesus Christ is God. When scriptures stated it there is no problem with me I am going to believe it. I am not belongs to Jehovas Witnesses. God bless, Johnny |
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350 | Multi-(G)god Universe? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29833 | ||
Dear Charis, I dont say anything that That God created other God. I put scriptures that will stated that there are written about other gods, are the scriptures lie? I do believe that there is only one God the Father, only one God the Son and only one Holy Spirit. I dont say that all of those gods written required to worship. What I am going to say is that Jesus never claim that He is equal to His father. Jesus said "My Father is Greater than I am" it is not His conclusions he accepted it. It is the people cannot accept what Jesus Christ has accepted. He said that His Father is Greater than He is, I know He is telling the truth and I am going to believed that because it is Him who said that! Not you not me not the conclusions not the theologian but Christ Himself. I do believe in Him than anyone of us here in this forum. God bless, Johnny |
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351 | Multi-(G)god Universe? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29937 | ||
Dear Charis, May I response for what you wrote? "And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.'" Matthew 28:18 NASB. Whose gave it to Him? Himself or the Father? "I and the Father are one." John 10:30 NASB. Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. If you are started it from verse 27 you will know they are one on what? they are one plan they are one in taking care of their flocks. But He never say there that they are equal. Here is the example of "one" Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. How many person's now could be granting that we are one of them? This is the counting of scriptures He has different way counting maybe we as human has limited langaues or counting so speak. Joh 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one What I said really is they are not equal. None in the scriptures that Jesus claimed that He is equal as the Father. As I said I believe there is only one God the Father, only one God the Son, and one Holy Spirit. The Father is not the Son, the same as not the Holy Spirit. If you tell me that they are Three yes! in my counting as human, but in the counting of God they are one but not equal. "Sometimes it seems like you feel you have a personal revelation of God that is superior to anyone else. I would say that this is a dangerous attitude." No! trust me. I know who will say that he has strong believe is a weak indeed, That is why please pray for me. I also pray that God will help me to make strong my very weak faith on Him. Those word I used sometimes offended you, and I am sorry for that. You get rid of me Charis? Joke only. Adios really is not a native languages of the Philippines Goodbye in our languages is "babay" it means "bye bye" God bless, Johnny |
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352 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29938 | ||
Dear Kalos, Thanks for the note kalos, I know that bible will not contradict itself that is why I am asking anyone that can show me clearly as clear when Jesus said that "Father is Greater than I am" if somebody can show me that Jesus reveal that "Me and the Father are Equal" I am waiting for that. Again I hope I am not offended you. I am sorry if sometimes my wording is not so good. "like when I asked "Did Jesus Lie" I used those word sometimes to point my very strong kind of asking to get my point or to weight my point. I am sorry for that. I am a human my friend hope you can understand that sometimes. Thanks for getting my attention. I do respect anyone here in the forum, I sometimes offended you, I am sorry for that. It is part of my learning also I learned in my mistakes. God bless, Johnny |
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353 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29940 | ||
Dear Robert, If you said that Jesus does not lie, Are you said they are not equal? You said"Paul refers to this order in 1 Cor.11:3 "the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God" This divine order does not denote inferiority between Christ and God or between man and woman." Who is the Head of Christ? God, as God the Father. Here it is very clearly again they are not equal. I do believed that there is only one God the Father, one God the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If you ask me how many are them? In my counting they are three. It is base on my human counting. But in the counting of God they are one because counting of Him is different in my counting: But they not eqaul. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Two become one flesh. Many for him can become "one" If I offended you sometimes, I am sorry for that. God bless, Johnny |
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354 | Multi-(G)god Universe? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29967 | ||
Dear Charis, Im glad to know that I am not make offended. Languages here is still the same. Nice discussion with charis, see you in the forum. God bless, Johnny |
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355 | Trinity (again)? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 29968 | ||
Dear Robert, Nice discussion to you! one more thing In John 17 Jesus prays "This is life eternal, that they may know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Next time please put comman after the word God, it a big difference. I hope you just miss out not intentionally. God bless, Johnny |
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356 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 78014 | ||
Quote "One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!" But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong." And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise." (Luk 23:39-43) End of quote. Answer. The scene in the cross is different from today. The situation is different, no time, the situation not allows them to practice baptism. But remember that the thief is asking directly to Jesus, and Jesus knows the heart of the thief. For example if are in the airport and you are going to enter with the president of the state, you don’t have to go to the usual process in the airport, you can go directly. But in our time, we have a lot of time to go to the baptism. The time allows us. Quote ”Jesus didn't mention baptism.” End of quote: Answer; He is wise, He knows that He cannot baptize water while in the cross. Baptism indeed is a contributor to our salvation, do you think Christ will do that as an example for nothing.? Mt 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. Do you think will mentioned it to nicodemus for nothing? Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. God indeed did not say that you must observe baptism in a foxhole during war, but if the time allows do it. Obedient to God means you have faith in Him, and if you have faith I am sure you will observe baptism. Please be always remember the lesson of noah, he has faith in God, he obeyed God, he build an ark even it takes 120 years before the flood came. I don’t believe that if noah just rely on his faith and obeyed to enter the ark he will be save in the flood. God bless, |
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357 | what i personally think | Acts 2:38 | jlpangilinan | 193872 | ||
these verses said so. 1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 1Pe 3:21 ¶ The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: |
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358 | Is Salvation only through Jesus Christ? | Acts 4:12 | jlpangilinan | 36894 | ||
Makarios, Are we judging those people that never heard about Jesus Christ is going to hell? If so said that salvation cannot attend except Jesus Christ, we have to consider those people belongs to the old testament will go to hell. How about moses, noah and other prophets they never heard Jesus Christ, do we consider go to hell? Apostle paul has a specific teching regarding this matter: Ro 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 14. Easton Torrey Ro 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) God bless, Johnny p.s. are you nolan keck? |
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359 | Is Salvation only through Jesus Christ? | Acts 4:12 | jlpangilinan | 37162 | ||
My Question still the same. are we going to judge people of Israel today? they dont believed in Jesus Christ, Can you tell me that people belongs to Israel will go to hell because they dont believe in Jesus Christ? You are very right indeed, when you quoted "God cannot lie" and He cannot lie to abraham too when they had covenant: Ge 17:7 ¶ And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 7. Ge 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. Ge 17:9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. Are we going to say that this promises of God to abraham is gone already. God mention here everlasting. The Jews indedd believed that there are no God forms after thier God. Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. They believed that there are no saviour before or after God the Father, so it very hard for them to accept that Jesus Christ is the saviour. But then they still believed in what God promises to abraham. My question again is in the present time, are going to condemn Israelites that they will go to hell because they dont believed in Jesus Christ? What happened to the everlasting covenant of God to abraham? God bless, JOhnny |
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360 | Is Salvation only through Jesus Christ? | Acts 4:12 | jlpangilinan | 37177 | ||
Robert, Please review my questions to 10EPreacher, it is a very specific questions. 1. If you can answers my question directly, if the Isralites will go to hell because they dont believed in Jesus Christ? 2. What happened to the promises of God to abraham "everlasting" ? are those promises broken? God bless, Johnny Th |
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