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681 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155851 | ||
Doc, specious argument. Thanks for putting a name that represents my entire argument. But I can see that you still are not following. Using big words to explain what I have spent several posts explaining and then following up with a paragraph that attempts to unsubstantiate my argument that you articulately agree with doesn't follow. My example of "all flesh" did exactly the opposite of what you state here. What it did was invalidate the attempt of another to "pin God down" by using the literal definition of a single word to give meaning to a verse and passage that doesn't exist. Please consider and take your offered advise at the end of your last post to me. It most obviously applies in your response here. Jeff |
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682 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155852 | ||
Doc, Thank you for your comments here and for supporting my argument. I find it a laborious task to ridirect the thinking of some who seek to understand the scriptures through understanding what they mean to them rather than seeing and understanding what the writer meant. Well said. Jeff |
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683 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155853 | ||
Hi Mark, I think we have exhausted the benefit of this thread as we are continuing to revisit the same arguments over and over. But, I will respond to this post. Where I referred to my personal views, opinions, I was specifically talking about this "issue" of suicide. I felt it necessary to refer to opinion because of what I do for a living. My line of work is not well received by a great many christians, as my spiritual beliefs and convictions are not by many a colleague. I always feel it challenging and important to explain to other christians that I do not take the liberal, scientific explanation for all truth which is without absolute, position that most in my field take. Interestingly, I never feel obligated to explain myself to my associates as the truth of God needs no validation from me. Perhapse one sticking point in our discussion, I see now, did have to do with the issue of "body" verses "life". And because suicide was the original topic of this thread, I may have mistakenly assumed that life was the issue at hand. I tried to explain this by asking the question something like this. If one loves his body does he hate his life and if he loves his life does he hate his body. Bows44 appeared to be making this observation in that he referred to Eph. 5:29 specifically to relate to the issue of suicide. From this point on perhapse more than one involved began a play on words, myself included. I can accept that this would have been done unintentionally while trying to make the various points clear. Finally, my references to blasphemy. Blasphemy certainly includes vilifying and insulting God, but it also includes an irreverence toward God and His word. Perhapse I was defensive, but, I felt like I was being accused of being just that. Thanks for the discussion. It is among those that I have had on the forum that gives me encouragement and growth. Jeff |
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684 | Name some responsibilities Christian par | Eph 6:4 | jlhetrick | 167668 | ||
Good answer Doc, Jeff |
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685 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | jlhetrick | 205154 | ||
Val, having observed you on the forum for some time I know you to be a disciplined student, able to evaluate verses related to their immediate and wider, biblical context. Becuase we know that paul never tired of teaching, speaking of the beginning, "elementary teaching about the Christ" and we have the language there of "milk" and "meat" I believe we're dealing with a lecture form of 2Timothy 2:15. The babe grows into a child by the milk and then must consume the protein of the meat to grow into maturity. Otherwise there will be a failure to thrive leading to a premature death. We build on a foundation (milk) and finish the house (meat). Interesting (to me) analogy: At a place not too far from where I live and work someone began to build a fairly large, multiple unit storage facility. They completed the foundation and even had part of the framing up. Rumor has it that they ran out of money and could not finish the work. In time, the strong, New Mexico winds toppled the unattended structure. Today, you can not see the foundation that has been covered by the blowing sands. Had they been in possession of, or known where to access the needed money (meat) the structure would have been finished and serving it's purpose today (assumable). Praise God that He has saved us and furthermore, gave us some capacity to know Him even beyond that through the teaching of His word as the Spirit leads us. Hope this is a helpful starting piont. Jeff |
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686 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | jlhetrick | 205261 | ||
Hello Jim- NO, not what I'm saying. Thanks for the question. As Paul does, the "milk" and "meat" are alagories. We are born spiritually dead. When we are saved we are sealed, given the Holy Spirit in our hearts, a promise from God 2Cor 1:22. That promise can be found in Phil 1:6 The Scripture says we are "called..with a holy calling". What is that calling? Matthew 5:16 says we are to let our "light shine before men" that they might "see our good works" that those works might "glorify" God. Eph 2:10 says that we are "created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them". When we are saved we are "called...for good works" and those works were "prepared" by God "beforehand". What are those works????? A better question in this context might be...where do we find out those works? Of course the answer is found in only one place. Scripture! So while salvation is of God and God alone, he purposes that we glorify Him through works that He has prepared for us. In other words, we're not called to a "stagnate" life as Christians, therefore, Paul's calling to move beyond the milk. 2Tim 2:15, knowing what we can know as God reveals Himself in His word and "becoming" workmen as He carries out His plan through us. Phil 1:6 speaks to the work of our being sanctified by God. That is a process and while it is fully of God, there is sumbission and participation from us. In referencing the "milk" and the "meat" Paul was not saying there is a process of gaining or losing salvation. He was speaking to their irresponsible response to God having saved them. Understanding this, in my opinion, helps in understanding how God's sovereignty and man's free will coexist. God does the saving (all by Himself) and He does the sanctifying (all by Himself) and we, the saved, participate in the process. Hope this helps clarify my position and I'm sorry if it's a bit knotted up; I am at lunch and only have a short time before I have to get back at it. God bless, Jeff |
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687 | Just out of curiosity. | Phil 1:23 | jlhetrick | 205262 | ||
Thank you for those words of wisdom Val, Jeff |
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688 | Could Jesus like Adam have sinned? | Phil 2:7 | jlhetrick | 170388 | ||
Hello saint-george, Jesus didn't "risk His own salvation". Jesus was not saved. Jesus is God. Salvation is a gift from God offered to the lost. Jesus was never lost. He was never saved. He was and is God. Jesus did not come to be saved, He came to save. Christ's Love, Jeff |
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689 | philippians 3 | Phil 3:10 | jlhetrick | 184043 | ||
Hello brother Jon, Very excellent points. I can not speak for Searcher but I will say that I took his post to have been made out of the same concern I had when I read yours. PJ's question was specific in asking "what did Paul have to do to attain..." While your post did point out that the WORK was that of God and not Paul (thank you), that was more of an afterthought (in my opinion) and the sacrifice of Paul seemed to have prominence. I'm guessing that Searcher was responding to that. For anyone with a good background in bible doctrine your post was easily understandable, however, there are many who ask and simply read along on the Forum who lack even the basics (not referring to you PJ as I don't know your background). In any case, we try to police ourselves the best we can when these issues come up. Hope your enjoying the Forum, God bless, Jeff |
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690 | Show me the money | Phil 4:19 | jlhetrick | 171966 | ||
Hello Barb, You responded to the offered responses to you with:"Your answer implies one must be poor to be born again. Does God want us to be poor?" At the time of that post, only two had responded to you, Mark and Ocelot. Neither of them offered opinion, thought, or feeling. They offered scripture, straight out of the word of God. How can you possibly debate that? You offered a quote from a very famous false teacher. I would respond to his statement that you quoted as follows: When John said we should prosper, Mark and Ocelot have used the word of God to define prosper from God's perspective. I urge you to find a church that teaches the Bible and make great efforts to steer clear of those who would twist and manipulate scripture for profit. with love and sincerety, Jeff |
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691 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205671 | ||
Hello Val- actually the Bible does speak of race, both as it pertains to humans distinct from other humans and to humankind being a "race" distinct to all other creatures. I would include the Scripture references but it might be more fun to do a word study. God bless, Jeff |
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692 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205688 | ||
Val- I can certainly appreciate all you’ve said sister. Start here: Ezra 9:2, Zech 9:6, Mark 7:26, Acts 7:19, Rom 9:5, 1Pet 2:9, And speaking of mankind… James 3:7. God bless, Jeff |
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693 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205923 | ||
Yes, that race is in the bible. The different "races" were recognized long before Darwin so I'm not sure why you threw that in there. Yes, Race is in the bible. I've already provided the references. It's not an issue of debate for me and we could go about defining and redefining the word . To avoid further confusion I'll provide the definition I am using. a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics (the English race) (Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary). There is nothing in my statements that would, or should, cause anyone to draw the conclusion that I am saying that there are different species of people. Sorry if that was the impression you got. God bless, Jeff |
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694 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205924 | ||
Oh that wouuld have been a nice trick if I couldn't see through it. Jeff |
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695 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205925 | ||
Please read my previous posts. Thanks and God bless, Jeff |
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696 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205928 | ||
OK, sorry! God bless, Jeff |
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697 | 3 brothers descendants changed | Col 1:16 | jlhetrick | 205929 | ||
Yep Val- already have my mind made up. Thanks for understanding. God bless sister, Jeff |
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698 | Could Jesus sin? | Col 2:9 | jlhetrick | 181488 | ||
Hello Kalos and all involved. Not jumping in to the debate, just throwing out a comment as one who has followed and read every post. Kalos, your post here really does sum it up, thank you. 'Jesus said the Father was greater than He not because Jesus is not God, but because Jesus was also a man and as a man he was in a lower position. He was ". . . made for a little while lower than the angels . . ." (Heb 2:9). Also in Phil. 2:5-8, it says that Jesus "emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men . . ." Isn't that what orthodox Christianity has always believed and taught? Thank you for clearing that up. It's one thing to quote a lot of verses that seem to support a position (as some do); but the task is in allowing the context of Scripture to establish the position. Otherwise, we end up teaching what the Scripture do not. When considering Heb. 2:9 and Phil 2: 5-8 we shouldn't be surprised that our Lord was napping in the back of the boat (Matt. 8:24) :) Thanks again for you post. And doesn't that make this special day all the more special? Our Lord and God, Creator and Sustainer God; humbled Himself so that He might deliver us. Merry Christmas and praise the Lord God Jesus for coming in the flesh. Jeff |
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699 | In Jesus' name...except baptism? | Col 3:17 | jlhetrick | 172602 | ||
Hello yyuryyicururyy4me, Welcome to the forum and God bless your efforts. There are no rules against replying to a post that is several years old, CDBJ was only pointing out that you may not receive a response from the person you were replying to. Anyway, to address you ascertions. Basic premise. Never, that is never ever, attempt to establish a doctrine based on a single verse. Especially when your verse says exactly the opposite of what you are trying to argue. The very verse you reference to argue "Jesus only baptism" is the quoted words of our Lord Himself. And what does He say? Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the FATHER, and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT:" (emphasis added) The "scripture about the name" rational that you gave actually defeats your argument. Your right though, the Bible does not contradict itself. That is why it is important for you to understand it in context and not in light of a single verse or even random verses. Why did Jesus tell the disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? I'll encourage you to study some to find that answer. Here are some hints: 1. The Trinity 2. One calls from grace 3. Grace works through the work of One 4. By grace One works to creat the regeneration in believers. The physical act of baptism is symbolic only of the thing that occurs through numbers 2-4 in the above list. In another post you wrote that you hoped you were wrong...But you believe Baptism is essential for salvation. Be at peace, you are wrong. Baptism is certainly a work. It's something we do. It is a work that demonstrates what has already happened to us. The work of it demonstrates that a work has been accomplished and is being accomplised; it does not accomplish and does not contribute to the accomplishing. Please consider James chapter 2 in your study. Also consider the very words of Jesus on the cross when He said to the thief, "Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Luke 23:43). This man was not taken down and baptized before his death. Anyway, another hint about forum use. The "Search" box in the top right hand corner is very helpful. Try typing in baptism for example and you might be surprised at how much has been written on this subject. That will help in your study as well. God bless, welcome to the forum, Jeff |
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700 | Do all Christians agree on the rapture? | 1 Thessalonians | jlhetrick | 172638 | ||
got_truth, What is your point here. Are you saying that Paul "lied" to the Thessalonians. That he didn't really mean it, but just threw them a bone to warm and fuzzy their poor distrubed thoughts about death? ???? ????????? Sincerely, Jeff |
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