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301 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205448 | ||
Doc, Thanks! And I get your point :-) Steve |
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302 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205457 | ||
Val, I went back and read your other post after seeing this one. I may have misunderstood you. I thought you were pointing out (with your question) that in fact fruit did consist of preaching the gospel and the conversion of new believers. I may still be confused on what you are asking so correct me if I'm still misunderstanding :-) Are you saying and/or asking, because Christ had not died yet that the fruit of a disciple would not include the gospel message? If so, are we to believe the revelation that had been given them was only partial? What would we include in "all things that I have heard from My Father"? John 15:15 (NASB) "No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you. Again, if I'm misunderstanding just turn me around :-) It's late and I'm cross eyed right now :-) Steve |
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303 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205475 | ||
John, Thanks for the response. It’s actually turned out to be a good discussion. Lot’s to consider and work through :-) I would say most assuredly making disciples is included in the fruit. Just a quick example! John 15:10 (NASB) 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. Matthew 28:18-20 (NASB) 18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Keep in mind. I have not said that the number of converts is the measure of the fruit that is produced. In fact I believe this is in part what Doc was pointing out and which I understand. Correct me if I miss represent you Doc :-) We sometimes view numbers as a direct correlation to success. But one need only look at many of the mega churches where Christ is never preached and see numbers is not the best indicator. You ask “Question I have to ask myself: If we abide in Him, and His love, how is it that we, move on, and to where do we move?” Well, consider this. John 15:2 (NASB) 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. From this we can understand that at a minimum, there must be fruit! And what does it say, every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.” So, there is a progression here, from fruit to more fruit. And in verse 5 we see “much fruit”. So, despite ones view that making disciples is or is not fruit, how does one not move on and produce more fruit and even much fruit? If there is one who completely abides in Him, I would travel far to observe him if only for a day! Steve |
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304 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205479 | ||
Greetings Sister Val, Thanks again for the response! I don't know about you but I'm enjoying the discussion :-) I think fruit here is broad in it's meaning. I think the making of disciples is one measure of fruit. But to say we must first make disciples would limit the application of the meaning. Abiding in Him is much much more then making disciples. It is as He says John 15:9-10 (NASB) 15:9 "Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. You said something I want to key on to stir some thought on this as I believe it applies to what is meant by fruit. You said " Ok, now to application to me - how am I to obey this verse in my life. I have heard Christ's call to me. I responsed by following Him and all that entails." Keep in mind I am not judging you okay :-) But when you say you responded by following Him and ALL THAT ENTAILS I have to wonder, has any one of us actually reached "all that entails"? What need of pruning is there if we have? If making new disciples were the only fruit then I could see the constant need of pruning. But there is more to it then making disciples. It is keeping all His commandments! Not just once or twice but at all times. The more we are pruned, the more we become like Christ. Consider this. My original question would be much easier to answer if the measure of fruit were only new converts. This is one of the reasons I struggle with where I am at because it is much more then that. Even if it were, I would still be left with trying to understand if it is God leading me on to something else or is it me, not abiding in Him as I should. But there is one thing you said that really stands out to me and I want to thank you for the reminder. I thank you for all your thoughts on this but this is important. You said "prayer I think is the key - everything we do is bathed in prayer - being sensitive to hearing God's answer is key." Yes it is! And not that I don't know this, but perhaps I have found myself thinking my way through this too much instead of spending more time in prayer. Thanks for the precious reminder! Steve |
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305 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205493 | ||
Jim, I know what you teach. I've seen you push it on the forum already. Matthew 28:18-20 (NASB) 18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." This if for us as well! I reject your teaching and where it comes from! Paul said it better then I could! 1 Corinthians 15:3-9 (NASB) 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 15:4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 15:5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 15:6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 15:7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 15:8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. Steve |
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306 | God, Are You There? | John 16:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 207275 | ||
bowler, The lady ask a question! She is not required to post a scripture. Your statement... "In all humbleness, I notice that you hardly ever include scriptures with your questions? I don't think from observing everyone else that anyone here is so consistent as to "always" include scriptures. But, I can only speak for myself, I try hard to include scriptures wherever I can." doesn't sound so humble to me. Sounds a bit more like self promotion. Proverbs 18:12 (NASB) Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, But humility goes before honor. Steve |
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307 | He shall not speak of Himself | John 16:13 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202450 | ||
“John 16:13— Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide yon into all Truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will show you things to come. See, my dear Brothers in the ministry, how little store the Holy Spirit sets by originality? We have men, nowadays, straining to be original! Strain the other way, for listen, ‘He shall not speak of Himself’—not even the Holy Spirit—‘He shall not speak of Himself; but whatever He shall hear, that shall He speak.’ He is the Repeater of the Father’s message, not the inventor of His own! So let it be with us ministers. We are not to make up a Gospel as we go along, as I have heard some say. We are not to shape it to the times in which we live, and suit it to the congregations to which we speak. God forbid! Let this be true of every one of us, ‘He shall not speak of Himself; but whatever He shall hear, that shall He speak’” -- Charles Haddon Spurgeon |
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308 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212427 | ||
Greetings KcabmI4! Let me give you something else to consider along with what brother John has provided. Consider the WHY Paul opposed Peter! Galatians 2:14 and 2:16 should help answer the why. And to help clarify, see also Galatians 1:6-10 You say Peter did not sin but scripture clearly gives a much different picture. Peter was indeed in error just as men today who water down the gospel and change it into something more palatable to the wicked heart of man. Peter's fear was obviously not properly directed and certainly not an excuse. He compromised on the truth of the gospel! His actions also brought others into error as well (Galatians 2:13). Just so you know, anything other then the true gospel is heresy! God bless, Steve |
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309 | Iam having some questions | John 17:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212527 | ||
MJH, The post was visible for a while. I read it also :-) Other post have been deleted in the past when containing links to questionable web sites. This is a good thing! Many who may be lesser knowledgeable in their understanding of the word could easily be lead astray by some of the absolute heresy's out there today. Steve |
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310 | Jesus Died for all, why speak in parable | John 17:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212200 | ||
flyman, Welcome to the forum! I wanted to add to what others have shared with you. When you are confused and unsure, be mindful of what God has testified to through His word and His Son. God the Father sent God the Son to be the Saviour of the world (1 John 4:14). It is only through the Son that God's plan of salvation is accomplished (Acts 4:12, John 14:6) We were born into sin and therefore dead in sin, separated from God our Creator (1 Corinthians 15:22 , Ephesians 2:12) In our sinful nature, we suppress the truth of God in unrighteousness even though that which is known about God is evident within us. (Romans 1:18-23 , Romans 3:9-20). But God, in His grace took the initiative to reconcile mankind to Himself through the sinless life and death of His only begotten Son (John 3:16, Ephesians 2:4-10, Romans 3:21-24). God the Father sent His Son (Jesus) to free us from sin (Romans 6:6-7, Romans 6:17-18). Jesus shed blood in sacrifice satisfied the demands of God's divine justice. God the Father confirmed in the resurrection of the Son that the sacrifice of the Son is complete and sufficient for the sins of the world (Matthew 28, John 20:19-22, 1 Corinthians 15:3-8, 1 John 2:2). Jesus paid the debt owed to God for our sins (Matthew 20:28, Colossians 2:13-14) and by God's grace, those who believe in Christ Jesus are justified as a gift and have peace with God and are reconciled back to Him (Romans 3:22-25, Romans 5:1, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 , Colossians 1:20-22). To those who believe in Him (Jesus) He gives them the right to be children of God (John 1:12). Christ did what we could not do for ourselves. It is His perfect life of obedience and His sacrifice on the cross that has won our freedom from sin. Scripture says it is by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:4). Christ has done all that the Father ask of Him and all that was required to provide reconciliation of sinful man back to God. Romans 10:9 says "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." flyman, the scriptures testify of what is required for salvation, by whom salvation comes and what is expected of us. Our assurance is in God Himself. We can indeed be assured for He has testified to us through His word and through His Son! In Him we have life!!! (John 3:15-17). God bless, Steve |
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311 | Jesus Died for all, why speak in parable | John 17:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212239 | ||
Greetings KcabmI4! Considering your post, why does one need to be saved? Steve |
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312 | When and where, Last Words of Christ? | John 19:29 | humbledbyhisgrace | 206323 | ||
Brother lionheart, I think what he meant was the seven last sayings of Christ on the cross. Which are... 1. The Word of Forgiveness 2. The Word of Salvation 3. The Word of Affection 4. The Word of Anguish 5. The Word of Suffering 6. The Word of Victory 7. The Word of Contentment The actual seven last words would be found in Acts 1:8 :-) Steve |
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313 | When and where, Last Words of Christ? | John 19:29 | humbledbyhisgrace | 206324 | ||
Sorry, I should have added the scripture reference. See the list again with scripture reference below. 1. The Word of Forgiveness - Luke 23:34 2. The Word of Salvation - Luke 23:42-43 3. The Word of Affection - John 19:25-26 4. The Word of Anguish - Matthew 27:46 5. The Word of Suffering - John 19:28 6. The Word of Victory - John 19:30 7. The Word of Contentment - Luke 23:46 Steve |
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314 | When and where, Last Words of Christ? | John 19:29 | humbledbyhisgrace | 206327 | ||
lionheart, I'm sure you would have brother! I was a little confused by the way the question was stated myself :-) Truth is, at this point I'm only guessing what I pointed out is actually what he was talking about ??????? Steve |
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315 | why jesus had not allowed mary to touch | John 20:17 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202583 | ||
flinky, that's flunky theology! Christ was not reincarnated, He was resurrected by the Power of God! See 1 Corinthians Chapter 15 for a better understanding. The word of God does not teach reincarnation! Steve |
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316 | why jesus had not allowed mary to touch | John 20:17 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202585 | ||
flinky, Thesis ? How about good biblical theology? :-) You also said in the other post, "Good thing Mary was so reasonable; other wise, we might have had a different NT." No sir, Mary is not what determined the outcome. The Lord God is the sovereign God over His creation and it is His plan being worked out in His creation (Psalm 103:19, Psalm 4:8, Psalm 66:7, Galatians 1:15, Luke 1:52, Matthew 5:45, Genesis 50:20, Proverbs 21:1, Genesis 1 and 2). This is not to add to nor detract from Mary at all. Only to point out that God almighty Himself is sovereign and nothing Mary could have done or would have done would have changed the NT. Agreed? Steve |
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317 | why jesus had not allowed mary to touch | John 20:17 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202592 | ||
Fun? Humm… However unintentional it might be, we should be desperate to point our brothers and sisters to Christ and do all we can to protect them by pointing them to the truth found in God’s word! I will tell you why it concerns me and why if I am found in error I have no problem with someone correcting me. That is, the enemy is sneaky and very subtle (Genesis 3:1, Matthew 16:21-23)! We should be desperate to edify our brothers and sisters in Christ with God’s truth so we all are equipped and not left vulnerable to the enemy. Consider what is said in 1 Peter 5:8. Steve PS. I think Matthew 16:21-23 is a great example of how easily we are fooled by the enemy. But knowing and understanding God’s word greatly enables us to discern the error and recognize the subtle attacks of the enemy! |
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318 | why jesus had not allowed mary to touch | John 20:17 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202595 | ||
Sure I would think so! But I would argue they will not find fun in deception, intentional or non-intentional. The risk is great and the consequences deadly (Genesis 3, Isaiah 59:2, Romans 6:23, Romans 2:5-11, Matthew 18:6, Luke 17:1-2, Old Covenant, New covenant, etc...)! I hope your understanding the point in all this! If you are my brother in Christ, I care about you deeply and if not, then I fear for you greatly. Steve |
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319 | why jesus had not allowed mary to touch | John 20:17 | humbledbyhisgrace | 202612 | ||
call2faith, NO! Absolutely NOT! We must never say the Lord God is unclean! For it is impossible that the Holy Righteous One of God can be! (1 John 1:5, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, Hebrews 7:26, 1 Peter 1:19, 1 Peter 2:22, 1 Peter 3:18, 1 John 2:1, 1 John 3:5, Acts 3:14, Acts 4:30, Acts 7:52, Acts 13:35) Think this through and study out the scriptures. You need to understand what the word of God says about our Lord Jesus Christ. Be on guard of your thoughts that have no biblical truth to back them up. There is but one who would have you think so little of the Lord Jesus! Steve |
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320 | What happened when Jesus assended? | Acts 1:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 190183 | ||
Greetings Hank! They say timing is everything! I say some times it gets in the way :-) I was posting at the same time I guess and didn't see your answer. Steve |
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