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3241 | Here's what Jesus said before he died. | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 93992 | ||
Truthfinder ... there is no punctuation in Greek. Therefore, where the translators place doesn't always make it wrong ... even if you do not like it. Searcher | ||||||
3242 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109416 | ||
This is not proof He went to Hell ... Luke 23:46 proves His Spirit went to His Father. | ||||||
3243 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109418 | ||
Emmaus what do you do with Luke 23:46 ... His Spirit went to His Father. | ||||||
3244 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109445 | ||
Matt 5:16, 48; 6:1, 9; 7:11, 21; 10:32-33; Mark 11:25 ... Where is the Father? Is not God omnipresent ... cite Scripure. Do the verses you cited say it is Christ? |
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3245 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109500 | ||
Did Christ go to these spirits in prison while He was in the tomb for the 3 days ... or could it be that He preached as the preincarante Christ? I believe the latter. I also think the "spirits (now) in prison, who once were disobedient" (vv 19b-20a) were the seven others with Noah. Remember Noah was the only righteous (Gen 6:9, 7:1) ... I think the others were disobedient before the flood. I am not sure work in them (or anyone) being in prison. |
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3246 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109501 | ||
Do you know where Sheol is? | ||||||
3247 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 109559 | ||
What was the need to preach? Would it mean that they would change sides ... David and Ahab? | ||||||
3248 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 115548 | ||
Scripture ... Heb 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment ... So preaching to the dead is not logical. | ||||||
3249 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 151949 | ||
Scripture ... Gen 5:32, 6:3, 11:25 ........... terrib, God's day to you, When I quote someone, I make notes where I disagree ... Adam Clarke's thought on "God waited one hundred and twenty years" (Gen 6:3) not not possible. Noah was 500 years old when he became a father (5:32) and was 600 years old when the rains came down and the floods came up. ... if you were unaware of what 120 years (Gen 6:3) meant ... which is man's lifespan, which took in effect with Nahor (11:25). Searcher |
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3250 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 151974 | ||
terrib ... you may want to believe 600 minus less than 500 is still 120 ... but you and the experts will get a zero on math. My point is that the number of years after the flood lived was reduced. PS I don't always care what the "experts" say. |
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3251 | 5 Views | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 186760 | ||
Quoting from Bob Deffinbaugh ... The major thrust of Peter’s teaching can be traced in verses 17-18 and verse 22. The problems arise in verses 19-21. The following views sum up the more popular interpretations of this problem passage. (1) Christ preached through Noah to the people of his day. This view was held by Augustine. Christ has always been actively involved in the world, even from ancient times (see Colossians 1:16-17; 1 Corinthians 10:4). He is also vitally involved with the world and His church until He comes again (Matthew 28:20; Acts 9:1-9; 16:7). This view’s main problem is the expression “spirits now130 in prison” which does not seem to be one that most naturally would be used and understood in reference to men. It is true, however, that “spirits” is used in Hebrews 12:23 in reference to those believers who have died. (2) Between the time of our Lord’s death and His resurrection, He descended into the abode of the dead and preached to those who had formerly lived in Noah’s day but were now dead and in prison, spiritually. Matthew 27:52-53 and Ephesians 4:9 are sometimes cited as support. There are several problems with this view. First, why is only this group of unbelieving dead selected and preached to and not all unbelievers? Second, why would the gospel be preached to a group of people who were warned of the coming judgment of God for 120 years and who rejected this warning (see Hebrews 11:7; 2 Peter 2:4-5)? It wasn’t as though these people were not warned. Peter tells us they were disobedient (3:20). Third, at least some of those who hold this view also believe these folks are given a “second chance,” but this seems contrary to other biblical teaching (see, for example, Hebrews 9:27). (3) Between Christ’s death and resurrection, Christ descended into hell and proclaimed His victory to the demonic spirits, who cohabited with women in Noah’s day (see Genesis 6:1-8; 2 Peter 2:4-5, Jude 6; see also 1 Corinthians 15:28; Ephesians 1:18-23; Philippians 2:8-11; Colossians 2:8-15; 1 Peter 4:22). This view seems to square best with Genesis chapter 6, 2 Peter 2 and Jude 6. It appears most consistent with the terms “spirits in prison.” But what does this have to do with Peter’s theme of suffering? (4) Enoch (not Christ) preached to those living in Noah’s day. This is the view of J. Cramer and J. Rendel Harris. It has no textual support, but only a textual emendation (a change of the text, without the existence of any such text) based upon certain presuppositions. It can hardly be taken seriously. (5) “I don’t know what Peter means here.” Luther held this view. We can at least respect his honesty. My questions are ... were thes in prison when Jesus preached to them? ... what does this have to do with suffering ... I see the word in 3:17 and 4:1? |
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3252 | Disciperlami, Did Noah's 8 get wet? NO | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 77805 | ||
I am not against baptism of the water. I am saying that Noah's 8 and Israel were not baptized in water. The water they were part of destroyed others. | ||||||
3253 | Disciperlami, Did Noah's 8 get wet? NO | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 77806 | ||
Scripture ... 1 Cor 10:1-2 For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed THROUGH the sea; (2) and all were BAPTIZED INTO MOSES in the cloud and in the sea; ... Did they get wet? No. Do you know who they were baptized into and what it means? Did Noah's 8 get wet? No. Since you haven't proven that these groups got wet, you are in error. Anthama |
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3254 | Disciperlami, Did Noah's 8 get wet? NO | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 77807 | ||
You are almost there. Baptism isn't necessary FOR SALVATION because (Israel and) Noah didn't get wet. Disprove that these two groups didn't get wet. Go back and read the context, that I cited ... figure out what "corresponding to that" really means ... as well as the rest of the text. |
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3255 | Disciperlami, Did Noah's 8 get wet? NO | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 77808 | ||
Scripture ... Act 10:44-48, 1 Cor 2:14, 12:3-11, 27-30), 14:1-5 ... Cornelius and Company were saved before they were baptized in water (Act 10:44-48). The gift of tongues is given to the believer (1 Cor 12:3-11 (vs 10), 27-30 (vv 28, 30), 14:1-5). They were praising God, which unbelievers can't do (1 Cor 2:14). Do you want Scriptures? |
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3256 | Disciperlami, Did Noah's 8 get wet? NO | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 77812 | ||
Apparently I am nor clear enough ... I am saying and have proven that water baptism doesn't save ... a major point. I have have proven water baptism does not mean immersion ... just a minor point. I am not against water baptism. |
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3257 | How Does Baptism Save? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 78307 | ||
1 Pet 3:21 starts, in the Greek ... oJ; kai; uJma'ß ajntivtupon ... Disciplerami, "which/that" ... Hos, in the Greek is not a pronoun. It may be a pronoun in English ... but, it is also an adjective, adverb and conjunction. "Corresponding to that" refers back to the ark ... it is what saved. 3:20 says, in the Greek, dieswvqhsan dij udatoß. saved through water ... the water didn't save them, the ark did. I was saved by the fireman who took be through the fire. Searcher |
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3258 | How Does Baptism Save? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 78331 | ||
Disciplerami But, hos is not a pronoun. Water still isn't the antitype. Searcher |
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3259 | How Does Baptism Save? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 78332 | ||
I built the fire :-o If you were through the water ... you coud not not have got wet, as Noah's 8 and the Israelites. |
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3260 | How Does Baptism Save? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Searcher56 | 78337 | ||
Wow ... if I am not to be literal, am I do be figurative? I doubt there is something between ... but maybe you go through the middle. I only am figurative, when the literal does not make sense. To me it make sense to take may view on Noah's 8 and the Israelites. Why wouldn't you be so literal in this passage? Searcher |
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