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3141 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Searcher56 | 14231 | ||
Nolan, Praise and prayer part of worshipping God, but they do not have to be worship. When I confess my sins, I do it in prayer. But, not all prayer is confession. So, just because raising your hands MAY be praise or prayer, does not mean it is worship. The verses cited have not one thing (nothing) to do with worship. What word are you using to see that it is worship? When will you bring you knees and face in contact with the ground before the Lord? Steve |
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3142 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Searcher56 | 14010 | ||
Romans 12:1 should say service not worship. -look at the context, read the rest of the book, until Paul sends his greetings, in 15:23. It is about our service. -look at the word, latreia. It is the noun form of the verb latreuo. . It means to serve for hire or to serve, minister to, either to the gods or men It is to render religious service or homage … to perform sacred services, to offer gifts. It is used of priests, to officiate, to discharge the sacred office. Since it is used in Matthew 4:10, I challenge anyone to find someone to see the verse say worship instead of serve. Greek is precise, English is not. -The experts disagree on how to translate latreia into English. All the King James' and Young's Literal Translation are translations that say service. Plus, get those who know Arabic, Japanese or another language not influence by English in the translation to read what it says. Most likely, it is service. Steve |
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3143 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Searcher56 | 14009 | ||
I never said where there is worship. I said there was praise and prayer. You are like the media, twisting what people say. | ||||||
3144 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Searcher56 | 13955 | ||
Nolan - I already said that some say it is a sign of surrender or praise, victory. They say it is part of worship because of that. I say again, "lifting up of hands" had nothing to do with worship. It is something that is being taught that is part of worship or worship itself. You need to point out where there is worship in these verses. Are you saying all we do is worship? If not what is your definition of worship? Again, I will use the word gentleman. Very few men are gentleman, by what the orginal meaning. But, now we call all men, gentleman ... because someone thought it was a good idea. Words have chnaged becuase of culture. Soon we will redefine certain sins to make it okay, as well as God, salvation ... Are we to let the world dicate to us what we believe, os we conform to their ways, or are we tho be transformers? Steve |
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3145 | One land mass? | Gen 1:9 | Searcher56 | 13655 | ||
There was no mention of seasons, until later. | ||||||
3146 | can all churches worship together as one | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13587 | ||
Typo ... it is Rom 12:4-5. | ||||||
3147 | Why did a seraph purify Isaiah by fire? | Is 6:7 | Searcher56 | 13581 | ||
Nolan, Fire is also used for a test (1Co 3:13), some say judgment. If the latter, I see Isaish being granted grace. The Lord will purify the earth with fire (2Pe 3:7). There are more things fire does, but that is not the point of this thread. Steve |
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3148 | Why was Jehu punished for being obeying? | Hos 1:4 | Searcher56 | 13427 | ||
Nolan, I don't want to know, so I will obey with a proper attitude and don't go overboard, like Tim pointed out. Steve |
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3149 | Why was Jehu punished for being obeying? | Hos 1:4 | Searcher56 | 13426 | ||
Tim, Going beyond his orders is another possibility. Nolan pointed out attitude. I jus thought about Saul. He did not wipe out the Amalekites, read 1 Samuel 15. There may of been an attitude problem with Saul, too. Steve |
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3150 | Why didn't tHe relent from His anger? | 2 Kin 23:26 | Searcher56 | 13405 | ||
Joe, Good. Romans 9:15 says God decides. He does not have to do it the same way each time. There is great danger in presummimg He will. I am glad he has granted me mercy and compassion every day. Steve | ||||||
3151 | Why was Jehu punished for being obeying? | Hos 1:4 | Searcher56 | 13404 | ||
Johnny3, God said, "I will punish the house of Jehu for the bloodshed of Jezreel," (Hos 1:4), not because "led the people away from God to worship idles and to do evil." Steve | ||||||
3152 | Why was Jehu punished for being obeying? | Hos 1:4 | Searcher56 | 13403 | ||
Very interesting. Nolan. I like the answer. Then, if we do for Him (or our bosses) with wrong motives and our own agenda in mind, what should we expect? Ephesians 6:5-8 came to mind. Steve | ||||||
3153 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | Searcher56 | 13366 | ||
Yes, Tim, God wanted to have mercy on Israel and man ... but, because of her unbelief, she was rejected (vv 30-32). Also, verse 14 is asking if God is unjust for choosing Jacob over Esau (vs 13). Answer is not at all. The choice was based on mercy (vs 14). Amen What a wonderful God we serve! Amen Steve |
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3154 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13353 | ||
John, have you looked at English? We make it hard for people, with all our expections ... do and to are pronounced one way then so and go are different. Why? Steve | ||||||
3155 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13352 | ||
Tim, I agree that the heart needs to be included. Yet, disagree about the physical position. My study also included activities that took place before, concurrent and after worship. Yes, we must submit. Be ready to have our life ended or changed. Worship for me is awesome and scary, for I am before Him, focused on Him. I live in Colorado. I also lived in Korea, for 3 months as a teen and a year as a military person. Steve |
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3156 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13348 | ||
Tim, Do you think the act of prostration is forgotten? I fear that salvation or other things could be mistaught in more churches. We need to explain the truth. I spent 10 of my first 15 years in Japan. Japanese was my first-and-one-half language. "Was" becuase I have forgotten so much. Steve |
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3157 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13346 | ||
Tim, I agree, "Use a more dynamic translation for reading, but use a more literal translation for study." I would add use a lexicon and concordance in study. I have helped by having what the Arabic and Japanese says ... they were translated from the Greek w/o consideration of English or any other language. Steve |
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3158 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13343 | ||
Tim, I agree that translators have a tough job. If I'd spend years studying Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic ... so that I could think in the orginal, then have to translate into English I'd be afraid. My fear is that we lead people astray becuase we say this is worship (or another thing) and push the real meaning away. When Revelation becomes real, I want to practiced up. The English dictionary meaning of the word worship is interesting, in light of all the translations we have. As noted, we have changed the meaning of the word gentleman, gay and probably other words. I have an Arabic friend who I ask what a passage says in his language, as well as my parent, for Japanese. My Japanese is very rusty. It helps me see how bad English is. Steve |
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3159 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13338 | ||
Tim, Should we change the meaning of a word, because of cultural changes? -The TEV uses worship in Genesis 4:26, where they say. "It was then that people began using the Lord's holy name in worship." Other translations use the word call, which fits better, because the Hebrew word id 'qara. - The TEV uses "places of worship" where The NAS uses "high places" (Lev. 23:30), "sanctuaries" (Lev. 23:12) and "place He will chose" (Deu. 16:15). As with gathering to worship, the place of worship was also used for other ac-tivities, including sacrifice and holding court. Also, the TEV uses "worship" and the NAS uses other words: change (Deu. 5:7), defiled (not fit to worship) (Jos. 22:19), follow (Deu. 7:4), prostitute (Deu. 31:16), serve (Deu 6:13), zealous (Num. 25:11) ... there is more. Very few people I have read, of the over 200 in my 6 month study, paid much attention to prostrating oneself before God, who has absolute rule over us. I don't see too many Christians willing to bow their knee ... yes we need to do it with our heart. Steve |
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3160 | Good News Bible? | Bible general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 13335 | ||
JVH0212, I would say a given Greek word may more than one meaning, in English. It is because we are not a precise. English is a horrible language, we have so many exceptions. We have changed the meaning of the word "gentleman" ... neither of us are, accroding to the orginial. Being gay was acceptable until another meaning was added. Greek is very precise, one of the best to study. However, I wonder why the translators are not more consistent. Even for those who use the same manuscripts. I believe the Eskimos have more than one word for snow--they are more specific. On the other hand, I heard they have one word for blue. We have many. If you have spent 30 years comparing various translations on worship, then you should know more than me. However, if it was a general study, you may not know as much on worship. I do bash the experts, because they are not always right. I also challange them directly. Sometime I do not know the answer, so I use them. However, I agree with Hank that this forum should not be a place to quote experts ... tell us what you think, not what others say. Steve PS I hope you read what I sent. I wnat to improve what I wrote. |
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