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1701 | N.T. circumcision? | Col 2:12 | Ray | 22914 | ||
Hi charis, I continued reading in Matthew after writing to you and offer this postscript. Matthew 4:15, "The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, By the way of [Towards] the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles--The people who were sitting in darkness saw a great Light, And those who were sitting in the land and shadow of death, Upon them a Light dawned." The translators/interpreters of the NASB of 1995 have made some bold committments to the capitalization of Light. This is shown by the difference in type between their 1977 copyright and their latest which allows for capitalization interpretations. So this is my encouragement to the Lockman Foundation and a recommendation for everyone to read the new copyright for they have made some important changes. Charis, I wanted to add that when the light bulb goes off in our heads so to speak, and the Light shines in our hearts, then we dwell in the Light, and we understand the gospel and who Jesus was and why He came. It is then that we decide to do as it is quoted in Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only." It is at that time that we follow the command of Jesus and repent and know that the kingdom of heaven is near. See Matthew 4:17. Then is the time that we would want to show our repentance and resolve to serve Him only, as shown by public water baptism. Does any of that sound right? I know that water baptism doesn't follow verse 17 here, but the Light has to dawn and we believe first, then repentance, [water baptism], following Him, and making disciples. Sorry, I may be sounding like a preacher instead of just a PK. Later, Ray |
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1702 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | Ray | 146110 | ||
Hi Mark, Romans 8:1 comes to mind, "Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 For the law of the Spirit--of life in Christ Jesus --has set you free from the law of sin and death." So it is not what the law or Law can do but rather what God has already done. He condemned sin in the flesh and now we are walking according to the Spirit. From the heart, Ray |
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1703 | Under part of the Law? | Col 2:14 | Ray | 146113 | ||
Hi Kalos, I wonder if Michael Morrison would go with one of these interpretations? Colossians 2:14, "having cancelled out the certificate of decrees against us and which was hostile to us, and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to **His cross. Compare NASB and KJ. or even this interpretation? Colossians 2:14, "having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us, and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed **Him to the cross." For He had disarmed [NASB marginal note, Or, divested Himself of ] the rulers and authorities. From the heart, Ray |
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1704 | "He erased the certificate of debt" | Col 2:14 | Ray | 146140 | ||
Hi Rowdy, Matthew 5:17, #134001, 133986, are references for your discussion with Kalos. Going on from there, I am seeing that you go with the NIV which speaks of the "written code" and does not give the distinction between the certificate of debt and the decrees that the NASB suggests. I would like your contribution to the discussion below with mark d seyler. My question is, "How many pronouns of Deity does Colossians 2:14,15 have?" For instance, would you go with the KJ for "nailing it to his [His] cross"? Or, could you go with a combination of the NASB and KJ and say that "He has taken it out of the way, having nailed Him to the cross."? In that regard, then He would be a public spectacle as your incomplete quote of Col 2:13 suggests. But, in any case for verse 14, I would say that He made a public spectacle of the powers and authorities "through Him", i.e. the cross, as the NASB states. Hebrews 9:26b, "...but now once at the consummation of the ages *He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. [Or, by **His sacrifice]." Colossians 2:14b, "...and *He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to [**His] cross." Compare/contrast 1 Timothy 2:6 [the *One] who gave **Himself a ransom on behalf of all people,... The stars and brackets are mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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1705 | "He erased the certificate of debt" | Col 2:14 | Ray | 147289 | ||
Hi mark d seyler, I don't think that the verses (Colossians 2:14 and Ephesians 2:15) are perfect matches although I think that the ordinances spoken of in both are the same thing. In comparing the verses and the passages in context, I find it hard to put into words the Persons involved. That is the focus that I would have in a study, looking at Jesus rather than the Law. 1) Is Colossians 2:14 speaking of God nailing Himself on the cross or nailing the certificate of debt on the cross along with Himself? Is Ephesians 2:16 talking about the cross or Himself as having put to death the enmity (that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances)? 2) I see Colossians 2:15 and Romans 8:2 as good matches as looking to the law of the Spirit and how He had disarmed the rulers and the authorities. 3) I see Colossians 2:20 and Romans 8:3 as good matches in that we have died with Christ and He has condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us. From the heart, Ray |
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1706 | When you think of Jesus, think capital M | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1133 | ||
Dear charis and wdc, I would like to comment that capitalization is a means of interpretation, and I would capitalize the m of man, Jesus Christ. I am a man, and Jesus was a Man as far as I am concerned. I like versions that capitalize the pronouns of Deity as does the New American Standard Bible, although they all have many inconsistencies. When you think of God as Jesus think of Jesus as the Son of Man and the Son of God. And when we get to heaven we'll know and see Him as He is, Holy Spirit. I wrote another note earlier, but I lost it in my system somewhere. I commented on what I would call the three Heads, capital h, of Colossians; 1:18, 2:10, and 2:19. Maybe you could say something about that and see if its close to what I would say. Ray V.H. |
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1707 | The headship of Christ | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1313 | ||
My Head, my Savior is what I had in mind as to what the verses were saying. But there are other words that are not personal names that are rightly capitalized in scripture. Is there any other Rock, I know of none. There is only one Holy One. Christ is the Light of the world while we are only lights. I would also capitalize the fact that He is the Bread of life. You mentioned the body of Christ. I didn't see it capitalized in Rom 7:4, ICor 10:l6, nor Eph 4:12. In the sense that we, the church, are the body of Christ, it should not be capitalized. Consider Colossians 3:3 however, "For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our Life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory." Capitalization of "Life" is mine. "The name of the Lord" was also mentioned by you and that brings up two interesting examples. Lev 24:ll and II Sam 6:2. Lev 24:ll says "The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name and cursed." NASB The New King James reads "blasphemes the name of the Lord and cursed." with "of the Lord" in italics showing that it was inferred. Even the New International version has "the Name" although it capitalizes no other pronouns, which to me denies His deity each time they use "his" name. I hope you are understanding what I am trying to say; that capitalization shows interpretation and it is important. That is why I wondered how everyone is interpreting the "Head" in Colossians. He has to be a head before He is the Head; He has to be a lamb in order to be the Lamb sacrificed for us; He has to be a light in order to become the Light of the world. He has to be a rock before he can be known as the only Rock; He has to be a spirit in order to be the one Spirit. Thus, it will be difficult in our individual reading of scriptures and comparing them to know whether to capitalize or not. I think though that a good start would be consistency and testing the spirits. Does anybody see where I am coming from? See also III John 7-12. Ray V.H. |
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1708 | The headship of Christ | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1335 | ||
I thank you for your compliment and kind thoughts. I spoke of the importance of recognizing Deity by capitalization and some scripture passages are quotes of people who would have denied the deity of Christ. That word deity is a good question in itself. Anyway my disappointment in the NIV still stands. I spoke of being consistent in the use of deity and I try to consistently capitalize He, Him, Son of Man, even "this Fellow" in my copy. But right now, even with this idea of consistency in mind, I would capitalize the Head of Colossians but would leave in small capitals the three usages of "head" found in Ephesians. But I could show you an interesting comparson of Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:3 Ray V.H. |
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1709 | The headship of Christ | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1364 | ||
If in some cases scholars are uncertain whether pronouns in the original texts refer to God or someone else, then capital or not it could be misleading. It's time to capitalize words denoting Deity and to decide who is who and who is speaking. I know that many of the Psalms of David will have words that one doen't know whether it is talking of David or God, especially when they begin the sentence. I've been studying this for twelve years or so and I know many of the problems. I could also comment to the forward of GOD'S WORD that sometimes we don't even know if the pronoun refers to Someone else. Luke 7:19 says, "Summoning two of his disciples, John sent them to the Lord, saying, "Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else?" If they expected One why would they look for someone or any one? And He gave sight to many blind. Ray V.H. | ||||||
1710 | NASB reading | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1420 | ||
I can't find time to write now, but can you look up II Chronicles 32:7, 8 so we can talk about it later? Please look in the NASB as well as others. | ||||||
1711 | The headship of Christ | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1470 | ||
I'm new to this computer business. I enjoy your smiley face but don't know about GPF. I would like very much to influence the writing of a more interpretive NASB using more capitalization and dropping some that they use, but I am not a Greek scholar, although responding to a suggestion, I am trying to learn some Greek. My system of capitalization is too much like numerology to some just as Washburn has found reaction to his writing. See Theomatics.com I've arranged my choice of pronouns so that the total would be divisible by three.(Among other things). I found that an exciting possibility and I've found reason to praise God because of it. You expressed interest so here goes. I won't explain everything, but suppose we counted the first three pronouns of Colossians and put a parenthesis around that third one, "the will of (God)". Now suppose we counted the first three of Ephesians and found the words "the will of (God)" Again, the parenthesis are mine. No big coincidence, it is a common greeting. If for example, you kept going with that sequence, you would reach the end with the total being divisible by three. Now for the comparison of Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 3:3. "Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as (God) in Christ also has forgiven you. Compared to Colossians 3:3 "For you have died and your life is hidden with (Christ) in God." and later on verse 13 "...just as the (Lord) forgave you, so also should you." You notice how the parenthesis come at the same pronouns (in different order) and that "just as (God)" and "just as the (Lord)" are numerically connected and compared. This is what I think Washburn, although I don't know him, would agree with me to be a "coincidence" of interest. At least it has been of interest to me in a study spanning some twelve years. A great waste of time according to some, but it has been a meainingful way of study for me. Of course, this "coincidence" would come about only if certain pronouns were chosen (not necessarily counted). We all wouldn't translate the Greek the same, we all wouldn't choose the same translation, or the same copyright of the same translation, we all wouldn't recognize all the possibilities for capitalization. So this is my study and it was the means that I even discovered these places in Ephesians and Colossians. For instance, I chose to capitalize and choose the pronoun Life in verse 4 and the word One in verse 10. It might be a hard sell to some translators. My mother used to say after I answered a question, "I didn't want to know that much". Thanks for your interest whatever your reaction might be. Ray V.H. |
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1712 | For the One with us? | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1478 | ||
I didn't know what you had against capitalization so I started to look in Strong's for what we can and should rest our faith in. It was then that II Chronicles was referenced for "and the people rested on the words"... and in a tired state I suggested your reading it. My point was going to be that it is but yet another place where a word capitalized can give us great rest and strength in the Lord. II Chronicles 32:7 ..."for the One with us is greater than the one with him. With him is only an arm of flesh, but with us is the Lord our God to help us and to fight our battles." I'm sorry that I was instrumental in getting everybody off the track of Col 3:17. But I do all in the name of the Holy One of God. Ray V.H. |
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1713 | In Jesus' name...except baptism? | Col 3:17 | Ray | 1735 | ||
Dear charis and Xapis, and whoever else is following this tree. I joined you late and I'm afraid just catching up. I've talked wtih charis about an interest in capitalization of deity and would like Xapis to give counsel about whether I am wrangling about words, which is useless or whether I am handling accurately or rightly dividing the word of truth. You see, I've already read Timothy and have struggled over whether those six truths should be capitalized or not. I know that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Is it worth the hassle over these truths? But I know the word of (God) is not imprisoned; I don't want to have just empty chatter. I agree that there is power in the name, (in fact I believe that Power is a name):-) Ray V.H. |
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1714 | bible study of thessalonian chapter two | 1 Thessalonians | Ray | 36319 | ||
Hi Misty, Welcome to the forum. Be sure to click on the other threads talking about Paul and 1 Thessalonians. The second chapter reassures the listeners that the message that was preached came from God. The gospel preached, although amid much opposition, was the word of truth. They spoke as ambassadors of God who wanted to please Him above all. God was the One who was going to examine them and be their Judge. They were not concerned about pleasing men but God. They were not seeking personal glory. They wanted to give them the gospel of God and assure them that it was really God's message. Although they were not concerned about pleasing others, they were behaving as God's people and "walking the walk" in a manner worthy of the God who was calling them also into His kingdom. The Thessalonians church were imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that were in Judea and Paul was pleased with that. He was one who was conscious of his visibility and influence and he sought to be worthy of his calling by Christ. The Thessaalonians also were examples to all the believers in Macedonia and in Achaia. 1 Thessalonians 1:7-9. Allow me to put in the literal words for verse 9. "For they themselves report about us what kind of an entrance we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven,..." 1 Thess 1:6, "You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit,..." This is in contrast to the persecuting Jews of 1 Thess 2:15, "who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, and hostile to all men,..." 1 Thess 1:4, NKJ, "knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the *holy *spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake." From the heart, Ray |
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1715 | Taught of God? Walk in God? | 1 Thess 4:9 | Ray | 152553 | ||
Hi Doc, What "doctrine" do you think I am building by my question about the relationship between 1 Thess and John passages? What do you think the "silent influence of his Spirit on our hearts" that Albert Barnes writes about is leading us to love and do? (Specifically as it relates to 1 Thess and John). 1) The references for occurances of "taught of God" in my Study Bible are Jeremiah 31:33f, John 6:45, and 1 John2:27. 2) Jesus (who is God) was a great Teacher, and I agree that we should compare Scripture to Scripture. 3) Of course we also have 1 Corinthians 2:13, "taught by the [Holy] Spirit." NKJ, 1 Cor 2:13, "These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual." From the heart, Ray |
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1716 | Taught of God? Walk in God? | 1 Thess 4:9 | Ray | 152614 | ||
Hi Aixen7z4, I appreciate your recognition of the words "by" and "of" in relation to being God-taught. The NASB chooses "taught of God" and the NKJ chooses "taught by God" for Isaiah 54:13 and John 6:45. I think that the bottom line is that we know that we have been taught by God [in both NASB and NKJ for 1 Thess 4:9] to love each other; now we should move on and learn "of God". The Scriptures are after all God's word(s) and teach us about Him. Hebrews 6:1, "Therefore, leaving the elementary [Lit. word of the beginning] teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity,...3 And this we shall do, if God permits." 1) Both the NASB and the NKJ have "the Lord" for Isaiah 54:13. Both the NASB and the NKJ have "by God" for John 6:45. So in considering the Person for these verses and in thinking of the trinity of God, do we think of being taught be the Lord (Jesus Christ) or by God (the Father) or would we go with being taught by Jehovah per the New World Translation of the Jehovah's Witnesses? I believe that we are taught by the triune God. I believe that no man has seen the Father. But we see the Son, for He came from God. Everyone who believes Him has eternal life. Jesus is saying (to my mind), "I am the Bread of life." John 6:45-48 From the heart, Ray |
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1717 | Taught of God? Walk in God? | 1 Thess 4:9 | Ray | 152615 | ||
Hi Doc, John 14:27, "Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you;... Isaiah 54:10, "For the mountains may be removed and the hills may shake, But My lovingkindness will not be removed from you, And My covenant of peace will not be shaken, Says the Lord who has compassion on you." John 6:48, "I am the *Bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the *Bread which comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die." Can I get some thoughts from you concerning the *Bread occurances in my interpretation of John 6:48f? What is the Spirit encouraging us to learn and do? From the heart, Ray |
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1718 | Taught of God? Walk in God? | 1 Thess 4:9 | Ray | 152625 | ||
Hi Doc, Thank you. Quoting John Gill in part: 1) "Christ is so called, because he gives life... Christ, the true bread, only gives life,..." I could infer that although John Gill does not capitalize Bread, it is He who gives life. 2) "which is conveyed by the word, and made effectual by the Spirit: and because he supports and maintains the life he gives;" I could infer that John Gil is saying that the life given is conveyed by the word; the Spirit Himself supports and maintains the life He gives. 3) "it is not in the power of a believer to support the spiritual life he has;" The word is "made effectual by the Spirit". 4) "nor can he live on anything short of Christ; and there is enough in Christ for him to live upon: and because he quickens...secures for them eternal life." Christ is needed for attaining life; we live upon Christ and His words...and have eternal life. Christ, the true Bread gives us life. This is accomplished through His word; made effectual by the Spirit. ******* Would this be an adequate understanding of what John Gill has said? From the heart, Ray |
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1719 | Taught of God? Walk in God? | 1 Thess 4:9 | Ray | 152835 | ||
Scriptural support for your statement?...Ray | ||||||
1720 | Slaying of the spirit!what is the need? | 1 Thess 5:6 | Ray | 139540 | ||
Hi Lionstrong, You gave a good list of Scriptures for keeping us sober in spirit. You spoke of "a Spirit-filled person living a sober life". You know me (the capitalist). Could this be a spirit-filled person as well? For example here is my interpretation of Acts 2:4 for your consideration and comment. Acts 2:4, "And they were all filled with *holy *spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance." From the heart, Ray |
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