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361 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139648 | ||
Hi CDBJ, I am not writing a new translation of the Bible, either; and I don't carry much weight around anywhere. I am trying to do my part in "interpretting" the Bible correctly or more accurately. So for 1 Peter 2:6 as written above in the all caps quote of a scripture, I see two pronouns of Deity. 1) **"I lay in Zion a choice stone" and 2) "And he who believes in *Him will not be disappointed". I would compare/contrast it to John 14:1, "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in **God, believe also in *Me." If the Holy Spirit teaches us to authomatically know who this stone is, then we (you and I) should believe in "Him". So for verse 7 I would go with the NASB rather than the NKJ where the pronoun "He is precious" is not in the Greek. I believe that a perfect interpretation is possible and we should be working on it individually as the Holy Spirit indeed leads us. The translators should be working on a perfect "interpretation" as well, for I believe that it will come. On the other hand, I do not want to beat a dead horse. You answered my thread here, not the other way around. If you don't want to discuss things further that is all right with me; I know that you believe in Him even though you might not always capitalize the pronoun. From the heart, Ray |
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362 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139608 | ||
Hi CDBJ, O.K. Suppose we not look at lower or upper case "stone". We won't consider whether Jesus is a man or a Man. We won't consider whether or not the NWT is correct with saying that the Word was a god. Koine Greek didn't show lower or upper case distinction so we don't need to either. Is that right? Is that good thinking? We know in this passage in 1 Peter that the "stone" is Jesus. But to the unbeliever it , Jesus, is a stone of stumbling, a rock of offense. O.K. let's not look at the capitalization; but let's consider verse 6 and decide if the translation should be "it" or "Him". What do you think; should it not be Him rather than it? And when one does consider capitalization, should it not be Him rather than him? We come to Him as chosen and precious in the sight of God. The Scriptures tell us that "they took offense at Him"/. They said, "Where did this man (NASB) Man (NKJ) get this wisdom, and these miraculous powers?" And they took offense at this prophet or Prophet. See Matthew 13:57 and Mark 6:3. But we as believers are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's/ own possession. 1 Peter 2:9 This precious honor, then, is for you who believe. 1 Peter 2:7. From the heart, Ray P.S. I like the way you included the word "written" in speaking of "the written Word of God". That is a good way to distinguish between the word of God, the Scriptures, and the "Word" of John 1:1. |
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363 | Slaying of the spirit!what is the need? | 1 Thess 5:6 | Ray | 139540 | ||
Hi Lionstrong, You gave a good list of Scriptures for keeping us sober in spirit. You spoke of "a Spirit-filled person living a sober life". You know me (the capitalist). Could this be a spirit-filled person as well? For example here is my interpretation of Acts 2:4 for your consideration and comment. Acts 2:4, "And they were all filled with *holy *spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance." From the heart, Ray |
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364 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139464 | ||
Hi CDBJ, So your point is? Syntax: 1 [Now rare] orderly or systematic arrangement 2 Gram., the arrangement of and relationships among words, phrases, and clauses forming sentences; sentence structure 4 Logic, syntactics as applied to language in the abstract with no meaning attached either to the symbols or to the expressions constructed from these symbols. 1) I would see a connection between the living (s)Stone of 1 Peter 2:4 with the precious (v)Value to us who believe (verse 7). 1 Peter 2:7, NKJ, "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious;..." 2) Can we, too, stumble because we are disobedient to the word? (verse 8). Or does it keep us from growing [up] in regards to salvation? (verse 2). From the heart, Ray |
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365 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139354 | ||
Hi Angel, Thank you for sharing your thoughts of capitalization with me. I wonder how you regard the capitalization in the verse of this thread. My personal interpretation is "that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live according to God in the Spirit". Any comments? 1) When speaking of our spirit, 1 Cor 6:20 comes to mind. NKJ, "For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's." I know of no Scripture that talks about God's Holy Spirit, however. 2) Concerning capitalizing "Holy". I know that you are thinking about Holy Spirit rather than holy Spirit, and I agree with you. I am considering, however, Acts 4:27-30. The passage talks about "Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed", NKJ. Would you choose a capitalized Holy for that passage? Or, would you go with the NASB with its "holy servant Jesus". 3) Who and/or what is going to help us make these decisions? From the heart, Ray |
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366 | Presented before Him, complete in Him | Rom 8:11 | Ray | 139278 | ||
Hi He-man, You say, "very nicely put". So that means that you agree with the interpretation of the NASB for Romans 8:15. Romans 8:15, "For you have not received a spirit of slavery, leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" This is different from the KJ where it reads, "but ye have received the Spirit of adoption". So you agree with the NASB as I do in my "penciled in" copy? 1) How about verse 16? The KJ says "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God." Here we see the different spirits bearing witness with each other; the Spirit of God and our spirit. Do you agree with the "Spirit *itself" or would you go with the NASB "The Spirit Himself"? Or a third choice would be found in the questionable NWT where it reads "The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit". Who or what do we need so that we can be seen as children of God? From the heart, Ray |
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367 | Presented before Him, complete in Him | Rom 8:11 | Ray | 139256 | ||
Hi Deafawake, Your Scripture choices indeed speak well together about the power of God. God raised up the Lord through His power and He is the One who has power to raise us up with Him in the heavenly places. 1) I think that the Ephesians 2:5 verse is closest to matching the idea of Rom 8:11 and Colossians 1:27 where the (Spirit) indwells us and we are completed in (Christ). Of course the parentheses are mine to show comparisons. Ephesians 2:4, "But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, [He] made us alive together with (Christ) (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places, in Christ Jesus," How great is His grace. It is the gift of (God). 2) I might say in passing that it is important in the passage from Acts that we recognize this Man, Jesus Christ. Acts 2:22, NASB, "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a *man attested to you by God with mircles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know--23 this Man,..." Acts 2:22, "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a *Man attested by God to you..." I go with the NKJ for this verse with its capitalized "Man". From the heart, Ray |
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368 | Presented before Him, complete in Him | Rom 8:11 | Ray | 139165 | ||
Hi He-man, Thank you for the Scripture. 2 Cor 13:5, "Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that *Jesus Christ is in you--unless you fail the test?" Colossians 2:5, "For even though I am absent in the body, nevertheless I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good discipline and the stability of your faith in *Christ." Romans 8:15, "For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "*Abba! Father!" I go with the NASB for the Romans quote; how about you? From the heart, Ray |
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369 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139152 | ||
Hi Searcher, 2 Chronicles 29 is indeed a good example of worship and singing to the Lord. The "song to the Lord" (verse 27) began with the trumpets and my Messiah concert pretty much ended with the trumpet. Bass Aria and trumpet: "The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Cor 15:51,52. A reference verse for 2 Chronicles is 1 Chron 25:6,7. "And their number who were trained in singing to the Lord, with their relatives, all who were skilled, was 288." The Oratorio Society that I heard numbered only around 150, but that full sound of many voices along with orchestra "singing to the Lord" does usher in the Christmas season for us. From the heart, Ray |
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370 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139150 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, I know better than to put all caps to words that are being considered for Deity. So I regret putting WHOM in all caps because one can not determine whether Whom or whom is meant. I do not capitalize "whom". I go with 1 Peter 3:18, "having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit; 19 in whom also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison." I'll try to start another thread for us today. From the heart, Ray |
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371 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139144 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Sorry that I couldn't talk with you last night about this; my wife and I attended a performance of Handel's Messiah last night and I didn't check my e-mail afterwards. Have you heard it or sung in it yet this year? You've asked some good questions. I think that there is a difference in "What" and "Who" just like there is a difference in "which" and "whom". So to my mind if there is a choice to be made, we have to phrase the question as Who or what gives us life? I believe that the Spirit is the Giver and the spirit is the gift we receive. The Life gives us life. The Light gives us light. The Word gives us the word. The Spirit gives us spirit. 1) What gives us life? I think both the Spirit and the spirit. That is why I say that no denomination has everything "right". The Jehovah's Witness does not believe in the Person of the Holy Spirit and we are not open to thinking of the holy spirit as a power given to us. 2) In your questions you may be referring to 1 Peter 3:18 where it says we are made alive in the (s)Spirit. I think of Ephesians 2:5, "even when we were dead in our transgressions, [He] made us alive together with Christ..." 3) 1 Peter 3:18, "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; 19 in WHICH also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison,..." 1 Peter 3:18, NKJ, "...being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by WHOM also He went and preached to the spirits..." You of course notice my stressed words of which and whom depending on spirit or Spirit. The NASB has as marginal notes [Or, Spirit] and [Or, whom]. And I would personally go with the "alive in the Spirit". How about you? 4) These things have been spoken of before through the years and ages as perhaps the choices of 1 Corinthians 6:20 would show. Some manuscripts do not include the second sentence. 1 Corinthians 6:20, NASB, "For you were bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body. NKJ, "and in your spirit, which are God's." So my point is that we have to be aware that we have both a Spirit and a spirit in the Scriptures; we have to be discerning in who or what is being spoken of in the particular passages. 5) We can also look at Romans 8 together. From the heart, Ray |
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372 | Stone or stone? Him or it? | 2 Cor 4:1 | Ray | 139043 | ||
Hi DC 160, I would like to compare your Scripture with 1 Peter 2. The beginnings of the chapters are summarizing. They begin with "Therefore". A) 2 Cor 4:1, "Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart,..." 1 Peter 2:1, "Therefore, putting aside all malice and all guile and hypocrisy and envy, and all slander,..." B) 2 Cor 4:2, "but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God,..." 1 Peter 2:2, "like newborn babes, long for the pure [Or, unadulterated] milk of the word, that by it you may grow in respect to salvation, 3 if you have tasted the kindness of the Lord." Both passages talk of the unadulterated word of God; a gospel message that manifests the truth in pureness and not in craftiness. C) I wonder if the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ in Corinthians can be compared to our seeing a living Stone in 1 Peter. This living (Stone) is chosen of God, elect, chosen and precious. The unbelieving, blinded minds do not see the glory of (Christ), who is the image of God. D) 2 Corinthians 4:6, "For God,/ who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of (Christ)." 1 Peter 2:9, "But you are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, A people for God's/ own possession', that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of (God); you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy." E) I see Jesus as the Light of the world who enlightens us and shines light into our hearts. We are also lights of the world. I see Jesus as the living Stone. We also are to be living stones. F) Ephesians 1:13, 14 talks of listening to the message of truth with the view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory. What do you think? Should we in our faith in the Lord Jesus be thinking of Him as the living Stone? From the heart, Ray |
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373 | For lack of a Shepherd? | Ezek 34:2 | Ray | 138997 | ||
Hi nickycan1, Welcome to the forum. Are the Jews not still looking for the Messiah, their King, and their Shepherd? From the heart, Ray |
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374 | Stone or stone? Him or it? | 2 Cor 4:1 | Ray | 138953 | ||
Hi Daniel, Thank you for the Scripture. In your answer you infer that we can be ashamed of Christ. I can think of no time when people were ashamed of Christ. The Scriptures speak of not being ashamed of the gospel, but can unbelievers or believers be ashamed of Christ? 1 Peter 2:6 speaks of "he who believes shall not be disappointed" [ashamed]. So the being putting to shame would be on us. The one who believes will not be in a hurry, will not be disturbed, will not be disappointed, will not be confounded. I was trying to get a choice from you of "it" or "Him", but now disregarding that choice, let's look at the One who laid in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner-stone. John 2:19, "Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews therefore said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22 When therefore He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that **He said this; and they believed the Scripture, and the word which Jesus had spoken." 1 Peter 2:6, "For this is contained in Scripture: 'Behold **I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone, And he who believes [in it/Him] shall not be disappointed.'" Would you agree with the above interpretation? From the heart, Ray |
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375 | Is the Holy Spirit a sin-enabler? | Rom 8:13 | Ray | 138778 | ||
Hi Searcher, Reference #138656 and #138750. What do you think? From the heart, Ray |
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376 | what does this rock mean? | Matt 16:18 | Ray | 138657 | ||
Hi Kalos, For 1 Peter 2:6 I have come to have "it" penciled in my personal interpretation instead of "whoever believes in Him". The stone of the verse is the it, that is the word. So I would say "The stone that the builders rejected, that which has become the cornerstone, a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense is surely not Peter, it is the word of God. The word of God that was revealed to Peter was his statement to Jesus, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God". The rock was his statement of faith in the Son of Man. This statement of faith from us also, shows that He is precious to us as believers. From the heart, Ray |
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377 | Masturbation used to expel sexual urge? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 138656 | ||
Hi Angel, Are you saying that Romans 8:6-8, and verse 13 are talking about masturbation? How about going to one of those verses and starting a thread about what they are saying to you? From the heart, Ray |
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378 | My question is still. What is referred | Luke 19:40 | Ray | 138637 | ||
Hi 6547, I find your question a good one. Welcome to the forum. In comparing a few of the Scriptures concerning stones, I find that the stones are often crying out and speaking. They are related to words spoken. I think of Peter, the little stone, speaking of his faith in the Christ. He was told that upon that rock (statement of his faith)or upon the Rock, (the Christ) the church will be built. So her in Luke, if they are silent , the stones around them will cry out. Somehow the words will be heard. In Habakkuk 2:11 referenced in the Amplified version above, the stones in the wall will cry out. "Surely the stone will cry out from the wall, And the rafter will answer it from the framework [Lit. wood]." Habakkuk 2:19, "Woe to him who says to a piece of wood, 'Awake!' To a dumb stone, 'Arise!' And that is your teacher? Behold, it is overlaid with gold and silver, And there is no breath at all inside it." Habakkuk 2:2, "Then the **Lord answered me and said, "Record the vision And inscribe it on tablets [of stone I would think] That the one who reads it may run." So let's take this word and run with it. :-) Let's at least think of these things. Luke 19:39, "And some of the Pharisees in the multitude said to Him, "Teacher, rebuke (Your) disciples." 40 And He answered and said, "**I tell you, if these become silent, the stones will cry out!" Consider Matthew 4:3 where the Bread of life was tempted by the devil. Matthew 4:3, "And the tempter came, and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become (Your) loaves." Or let these stones become (Bread). Here is my interpretation using capitalization for John 6:48-52. John 6:48, "I/ am the Bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 51 (I) am the living Bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this Bread, he shall live forever; and the Bread also which I shall give for the life of the world is My flesh." 52 The Jews therefore, began to argue with one another, saying, "How can this Man/ give us His flesh to eat?" 1 Peter 2:4, "And coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected by men, but choice and precious in the sight of (God), 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." 1 Peter 2:7, NKJ, "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, "The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone," 6and "A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense." Thanks for your question. From the heart, Ray |
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379 | Can we identify the "creature?" | Rom 1:25 | Ray | 138358 | ||
Hi He-man, Webster for anathema: Gr, thing devoted to evil; previously, anything devoted. 1 a thing or person accursed or damned. 1) 1 Cor 11:32, "But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the **Lord in order that we may not be condemned along with the world." Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of **God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness." 2) 1 Corinthians 12:1, "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware. 2 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the dumb idols, however you were led. 3 Therefore I MAKE KNOWN to you, that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord,"/ except by the Holy Spirit. 4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same (Spirit)." Romans 1:19, "because THAT WHICH IS KNOWN about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God,/ they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible (God) for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures." Romans 9:5, "...from whom is the (Christ) according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen. Unrighteous men exchange the truth of God for a lie, but it isn't as though the word of God has failed. We worship the Creator and are not given over to degrading passions. We are children of God, children of the promise. Romans 1:25 and Romans 9:8 3) Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of (God) is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "But the righteous man shall live by faith."" Hebrews 10:36, "For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God, you may receive what was promised. 37 For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come and will not delay. 38 But (My) righteous one shall live by faith;..." Galatians 3:6, "Even so Abraham believed (God), and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." 4) 1 Cor 16:22, "If anyone does not love the **Lord, let him be accursed [Gr. anathema]. Maranatha. Romans 1:18, "For the wrath of **God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousnes,..." The **stars and the parentheses are mine for comparisons. From the heart, Ray |
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380 | Are our hearts HOLY or Wicked? | Eph 3:17 | Ray | 138243 | ||
Hi Angel, You wrote, "Yet, when we allow the Holy Spirit to reveal the fullness of Truth, we begin to better undertand our Lord's Word:... (John 15:3-6)." Looking at the statement with my usual fetish for capitalization I can agree with the capitalized Truth for you are talking about the fullness of God. (Ephesians 3:19). However, when considering God's (w)Word, what are you talking about? In considering John 15:3-6 are you looking for the Lord's God? Or are you considering God's word, the Scriptures? Have you considered John 15:3-6 in other versions, especially the NASB and NKJ and thought about looking at Jesus as the Vine [sic]? Is that a sense in which we can better understand our Lord's Word? Just thoughts to consider. I appreciate your Scripture references and their contrasts. Romans 5:15, "But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of (God) and the gift by the grace of the one **Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many." Romans 3:23, "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of (God). 24 being justified as a gift by **His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;" Romans 3:26, "for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that (He) might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in **Jesus." 27 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but be a law of faith. 28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law." From the heart, Ray |
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