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341 | Hear Thou...heaven. Hear Thy people | 2 Chr 6:24 | Ray | 140629 | ||
Hi Greentwiga, Turning to the only true God; excellent point. In comparing 2 Chronicles with the similar prayer in 1 Kings, we see your point very clearly. 1 Kings 8:33, NKJ, "When Your people Israel are defeated before an enemy because they have sinned against You, and when they turn back to You, and confess Your name, and pray and make supplication to You in this temple, 23, then hear in heaven,..." verse 23, NASB, 1977, "then hear **Thou in heaven, and forgive the sin of *Thy people,..." John 10:30, "**I and the *Father are one." The stars are mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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342 | Who is exalted as head over all? | 1 Chr 29:10 | Ray | 140575 | ||
Hi Searcher, Amen, bro. Our posture before Him is important for worship. Growing up as a preacher's kid I was taught to sit up straight and be quiet during the prayers at church services. We are taught when young to fold our hands and pray. We are taught to stand for the reading of the Scriptures in the church service or for the doxology being sung. These are all signs of honor and respect for Him. In this range of signs of respect, (from folding hands in prayer to bowing on our knees and face before Him), the important thing is the attitude of the heart. We should do many things to show Him honor and respect and to even remind ourselves that although precious to Him, we are only flesh and blood in contrast to Holy Spirit. We are children of a great God. 1) Sometimes we don't know if it is God's Will that a word be capitalized. Perhaps that would be a specific example of what you were talking about here. 2) The word "head" in 1 Chron 29:11is one that I have considered for Ephesians 5:23 for instance. I think of Christ as the Head of the church and the husband as the head of the wife. Yet in having absolute rule over us, being regarded as our Ruler as believers; He is also head over all, even as our Head and Savior of the body. 3) In my mind, for verse 11, I leave the word "head" in lower case with the NKJ rendering "Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, And You are exalted as head over all." I would go with the NASB in its rendering of verse 11 in that they leave out the "Yours" that is not in the Hebrew as shown by the italics in the NKJ. Thus, I would have in my personal interpretation/translation a total of five pronouns for verse 11. 4) Comparing verse 10 with verse 18, I see enough of a case to choose a lower case "father" for verse 10 as well. With these choices, it leaves the total count of pronouns of Deity for this prayer at 36 which is of course divisible by 3. What are your thoughts on all of this? From the heart, Ray |
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343 | 1 Chronicles 28 verse 6 and 7 | 1 Chr 28:6 | Ray | 140518 | ||
Hi Searcher56, Let's talk about it some more. Expressed another way, I would say that Solomon is "the one who" according to 1 Chronicles 28:7 will build "My house and My courts;..." However, just as Solomon was a (or the) chosen son of David for the job of building the temple, Jesus was the Chosen One of God. Jesus was the only -begotten Son of God and Solomon was a chosen son to God the Father. Your choice of Mark 5:7 does not speak of THE Son, but rather speaks of the Most High God. Of course we think of the Father and the Son as one; and we know that God is Spirit. So we have to decide with the man who had the unclean spirit, "What do I have to do with (You)?", Mark 5:7. "I implore You /by God do not torment me." The man had bowed down before Jesus and worshiped Him as God; for Jesus had been saying to him, "Come out of the man, you unclean spirit." This story relates to the passages of Scripture where it talks of not blaspheming the Holy Spirit; for Jesus did not do the works that He did by means of an unclean spirit. Jesus told the man released from demon-possession to "Go home to your people and report to them what great things the Lord has done for you, and how He had mercy on you." What great things this Man Jesus ,being recognized as God, had done for him. Mark 5:20, "And he went away and began to proclaim in Decapolis what great things Jesus had done for him; and everyone marveled." 1) Another passage to consider "father or Father" is 1 Chronicles 29:10 and 11. Is verse 10 talking of Israel [Jacob], David's father; or is he talking as in verse 11 of God being exulted as head over all? From the heart, Ray |
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344 | Violent men take it by force | Matt 11:12 | Ray | 140410 | ||
Hi MJH, Micah 2:11, "If a man walking after wind and falsehood Had told lies and said, 'I will speak out to you concerning wine and liquor,' *he would be spokesman to this people. 12 "I will surely assemble all of you, Jacob, I will surely gather the remnant of Israel, (I) will put them together like sheep in the fold; Like a flock in the midst of its pasture, They will be noisy with men. 13 The breaker goes up before them; They break out, pass through the gate, and go out by it. So their king goes on before them, And the Lord at their head." Matthew 11:6, "And blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over Me/" 7 And as these were going away, Jesus began to speak to the multitudes about John, "What did you go out into the wilderness to look at? A reed shaken by the wind? 8 But what did you go out to see? A *Man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in king's palaces. 9 But why did you go out? To see a (Prophet?) Yes, I say to you, and **One who is more than a Prophet. 10 This is the ***One about whom it is written, 'Behold, I send My/ messenger before Your face, Who will prepare Your way before (You).' 11 "Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force." Malachi 3:1, "Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord,/ whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the *Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, (He) is coming," says the Lord of hosts." The stars are changes in capitalization that I would make and the parentheses are mine for comparison. John 6:14, "When therefore the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, "This *Man is of a truth the (Prophet) who is to come into the world." 15 Jesus therefore perceiving that they were intending to come and take Him by force to make Him king, [He] withdrew again to the mountain by Himself alone." John 10:6, "This figure of speech Jesus spoke to them, but they did not understand what those things were which He/ had been saying to them. 7 Jesus therefore said to them again, "Truly, truly, I say to you, (I) am the door of the sheep. 8 All who came before Me are theives and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." I see these as good comparison verses for this subject. Could I get a response to this or to #67533? From the heart, Ray |
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345 | Is speaking in tongues THE only sign? | 1 Cor 13:8 | Ray | 140377 | ||
Hi Tim, That's a good point. | ||||||
346 | Diff filling vs receiveing the Spirit? | 1 Cor 13:8 | Ray | 140376 | ||
Hi Tim, Perhaps you can add Acts 6:5, "and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit,..." Which of these 10 verses and the 8 of receiving the Holy Spirit can you use to prove that they are talking of a Person of the Godhead? Are there any that you feel are comparable to Acts 5:3 and 4 which connect lying to the Holy Spirit and lying to God? What are the verses that you had in mind in your final answer paragraphs? From the heart, Ray |
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347 | Have they been chosen | NT general Archive 1 | Ray | 140139 | ||
Hi CDBJ, You gave a good answer with appropriate Scriptures. I think that they were appropriate because they spoke of being called and chosen "according to (His) purpose". According to (His) glorious might we too are qualified for the inheritance of the saints in (l)Light. Colossians 1:12. All this in order that we might be presented before (Him) holy and blameless and beyond reproach. The parentheses are mine of course to show the comparisons that I see. 1) Your version of choice caught my eye. Which version did you use here? From the heart, Ray |
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348 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit? What is it? | Acts 4:24 | Ray | 140131 | ||
Hi Angel, The phrase of your post that especially drew my attention was "we seek to serve Him and the Holy Spirit will bring us enlightenment or joy or both!" The first Scripture that came to mind was Romans 14:17, then I was led to consider "joy" in my concordance. I would like later to consider Romans 14:12-23 with you in another thread. 1) The first reference to joy in my concordance is Matthew 2:10, "And when they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great joy." That is a good verse to consider for this season of year. The thought that came to mind is that the Magi were told by Herod to "Go and make careful search for the (Child); and when you have found [Him], report to me, that I too may come and worship Him." The Magi saw the star with great joy and when they came into the house and saw the Child with Mary His mother, they worshiped Him. We have been talking about finding the (Child), the (Man), the (Prophet) and talking about the word of (God). 2) The second reference is Matthew 13:20, "And the one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word, and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away [Lit., is caused to stumble]." This relates to what you spoke of in your post in that hardships can lead us to Christ and they can cause us to stumble if we try to find the root and strength only in ourselves. 3) I won't go on and talk about the other 58 occurances of "joy" in the New Testament. :) I'll give you a chance to write. But one other thing I discovered in my reading concerns Matthew 13:15 and that too may better be talked about in another thread. Matthew 13:15 in the NKJ and the NASB, 1977 copyright has the rendering "And understand with their heart and return, And I *should heal them". The NASB, 1995 copyright goes with the NU text and reads, "And I *would heal them". This gives me great hope for the future that people will see and hear the word of God and understand fully. Matthew 13:16, "But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. 17 For truly I say to you, that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see [it]; and to hear what you hear, and did not hear [it]." What do you think? Does this suggest to you as it does to me that the Holy Spirit wishes to bring us enlightenment as well as joy, and that the enlightenment is a gift, the promised spirit, that will be in us? Ezekiel 36:26. I believe that the parables were His spirit and words spoken to us. From the heart, Ray |
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349 | old testament salvation | Lev 18:25 | Ray | 140097 | ||
Hi Searcher, Thank you for connecting Hebrews with Romans 1:18. I found Hebrew 10:38 to be a perfect match in comparing Scriptures. Romans 1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of (God) is revealed from [Or, by] faith to faith; as it is written, "But the righteous man shall live by faith". 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in [Or, by] unrighteousness,..." We can compare/contrast 2 Timothy 4:7, "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; 8 in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous (Judge), will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing." Galatians 3:6, "Even so Abraham believed (God), and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. 7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham." Genesis 15:6, "Then he believed in the (Lord); and He reckoned it to him as righteousness." Romans 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in (Him) who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." Romans 3:26, "for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that (He) might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus." Hebrews 10:37, "For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and will not delay. 38 But (My) righteous one shall live by faith; And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him. 39 But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul." From the heart, Ray |
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350 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit? What is it? | Acts 4:24 | Ray | 140083 | ||
Hi Angel, This passage in Acts 4 is one that has been discussed and probably argued through the ages judged by the variances in the manuscripts. We have several differences in the texts available. First is the one that you very ably noted, that is, that the NKJ "must add "God" or another word/phrase that would be the direct object of the pronoun..." The NKJ used a text that had that word "God" in it. The NU text which the NASB used omitted the word "God" and included the "Holy Spirit" in the next verse. The NKJ, using a different text, included "God" but left out "Holy Spirit". 1) Another difference in the texts is found in Acts 4:33 where the word "Christ" is added in some manuscripts. 2) In summary, then, we have several choices to make. a) Include God in verse 24. b) Include Holy Spirit in verse 25. c) Include Christ in verse 33. d) Include a capitalized Servant in verse 27. e) Or, use a combination of choices from the above. f) See question below also. 3) Personally, I do not see the capitalization of "holy" in verses 27 and 30 as a choice. "Could there be a holy spirit?" 1) I see another choice in this Acts 4 passage in regard to holy spirit. Personally, in all the occurances in the Scriptures of being "filled with the Holy Spirit" I have put holy spirit in lower case, holy spirit. 2) Right now, I am thinking that "Holy Spirit" should not be included in Acts 4:25. The idea then of verse 25 would be "who by inspiration, through the mouth of our father David Thy servant, didst say, "Why did the Gentiles rage, And the peoples devise futile things?..." I trust that we are not trying to devise futile things [person, place, or thing; pronouns] but rather deciding for ourselves whether Jesus was the Christ. Was He a child or a Child, a servant or a Servant? Was He a man or a Man, a god or a God, a Person or an it? And also, are we to be filled with holy spirit, even a spirit of wisdom and power? How much do we need to think of Him [now, after His resurrection] as a human? Are we gathered together against the Lord, and against His Christ if we think of Him as only a holy child [servant]? From the heart, Ray |
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351 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 140054 | ||
Hi Angel, Thanks for getting me back to this thread, because I had meant to speak to my statement that "I know of no Scripture that talks about God's Holy Spirit." Your references that you gave me do not have those words. And I do not wish to add any words to the verses even though God and the Spirit are always Holy in our minds. I am interested in capitalization of Deity but I am also interested in counting the occurances; thus I do not want to take away or add to any passage. However, I wanted to express the fact that although "God's Holy Spirit" is not to be found anywhere, "His Holy Spirit" is found in Isaiah 63:10 and 11 and "Thy Holy Spirit" is found in Psalm 51:11. 1) I don't agree with you on the capitalization of Holy, Servant, and Anointed but I will start a new thread on Acts 2 and we can discuss it more there. 2) "Who and/or what is going to help us make these decisions?" I believe that the Holy Spirit witnessing with our spirit will bring about the right decisions for capitalization. I would like to see the NASB and the NKJ working together on a new interpretive Bible. From the heart, Ray |
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352 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139987 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your question is one that I have not thought about; and I get uncomfortable when I have to think. I have led a rather "sheltered" life and especially in my retirement I am not in my personal world witnessing for Him. So, in other words, I don't feel the powers of darkness getting worried about me and my witness and daily walk with Him. So in that sense I am not aware of the darkness; perhaps I would be more aware if I were more of a witness. Did you have something like that in mind? 1) I do believe that when one walks in Him and in His statutes and in His light, that little sins are regarded as big sins. One sees the contrast between good and evil more easily; wanting to make the gray areas of life even lighter. We know that we are not to sin. 1 John 2 comes to mind. 1 John 2:4, "The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God is perfected. By this we know that we are in Him; 6 the one who abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as (He) walked." 2) 1 John 2:3, "And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments." John 11:9, "Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the Light of this world." The darkness should be passing away according to verse 8 for the true Light is already shining. 1 John 2:10, "The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause of stumbling in him. 11 But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes." 3) 1 John 2:14, "...I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of (God) abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one." John 8:12, "Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the (Light) of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the Light of life." The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever. 1 John 2:17. 4) The darkness is passing away, and the world is passing away, because we think of the things of the Spirit. Do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:5, "For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the (Spirit)." We belong to (Him), through His (Spirit) who indwells you, and are regarded as children of (God). That is how I have Romans 8 penciled in; looking at the law of the (Spirit)--of life in Christ Jesus. I hope it is helpful and meaningful to you as well. The parentheses are of course mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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353 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139966 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your thoughts here led me to compare your verses and others. We don't want to be stumbling around in the dark; we want to walk in Him. 1 Peter 2:21, "For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in (His) steps." Colossians 2:6, "As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in (Him)." Ezekiel 36:27, And I will put My (s)Spirit within you and cause you to walk in (My) statutes,..." From the heart, Ray |
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354 | Those who died before Jesus' death | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139962 | ||
Hi Tim, By speaking of God's self revelation and "He chose to use language to reveal Himself", you recognize the presence of spirit and Spirit. John 1:16, KJ, "And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace." When you choose to go with seeing "Himself" you agree with "God Himself". John 1:16, NASB, "For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." John 1:18, "NASB, "...He has explained [Him]." John 1:18, KJ, "...he has explained [him]." Which version is the better explanation? How does one decide; by his spirit or His spirit or the Holy Spirit? The only begotten God [the Son]; This Man has explained the Spirit. No man has seen God at any time. John 4:24, NASB, "God is spirit [Or a Spirit]..." I read it like it really is, a chance to know God as He reveals Himself to us. 1Peter 4:6, For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live according to God in the Spirit. That is how I have it "penciled in". :) From the heart, Ray |
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355 | WHERE are they taken? | Luke 17:37 | Ray | 139922 | ||
Forum members can therefore refer to the Luke 17:36 thread in progress. | ||||||
356 | A seeming difference: Gen. 24:8 and 41? | Gen 24:41 | Ray | 139921 | ||
Hi epbentley, I offer Hosea 12:4 as another supporting passage for the choice of "Angel". I often compare the NASB and the NKJ since they are translations that capitalize pronouns of Deity. However, they both have a flaw in my mind in regard to literary style of capitalizing after semicolons. This style sometimes confuses. Hosea 12:4, NASB, "Yes, he wrestled with the angel [sic] and prevailed; He [confusing literary style because it is speaking of the man Jacob] wept and sought His favor. He found Him at Bethel, And there He spoke with us, 5 Even the Lord, the God of hosts; The Lord is His name." Hosea 12:4, NKJ, "Yes, he struggled with the Angel and prevailed; He [the man Jacob] wept, and sought favor from Him. He [Jacob] found Him in Bethel, And there He spoke to us--5 That is, the Lord God of hosts. The Lord is His memorial name." The NASB lower case "angel" does not agree with the upper case "sought His favor", so I go with the NKJ. Both the NASB and the NKJ say that He spoke with us and recognized Him as the Lord, the God of hosts. The Lord is His name. Jacob contended with God; yes he struggled with the Angel. He struggled with the Man. Genesis 32:24, NASB, "Then Jacob was left alone, and a man [sic] wrestled with him until daybreak." Genesis 32:24, NKJ, "Then Jacob was left alone; and a Man [sic] wrestled with him until the breaking of day." Jacob wanted to know this Man's name. Jacob asked the Angel, "Please tell me Your name." But He said, "Why is it that you ask My name?" And He blessed him there. Jacob recognized that he had seen God face to face, yet his life was preserved. From the heart, Ray |
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357 | New believers zealous for LAW? | Acts 21:24 | Ray | 139883 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your Ex 36:26 reference is actually Ezekiel 36:26. I thought for a minute that Exodus was going to give me another comparison verse. I liked your Scriptures in your last paragraph for comparing. In Matthew 22 they were testing Jesus/ the Teacher. Deut 30:5 says that the Lord God will gather you (the outcasts), and from there He/ will bring you back. Jesus tells us in John 15:5 - Apart from Me/ you can do nothing. Ezekiel 36:26 tells us of a new heart and a new spirit within us - "and I/ will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh." So everything is done for us by the Spirit. 1) Matthew 22 gives us the commandments that we should be concerned about as you have said. Matthew 22:36, "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law? 37 And He said to him, "You shall love the (Lord) your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and will all your mind." Compar/contrast Mark 12:30, "And you shall love the (Lord) your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength." Luke 10:25, "And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and put Him/ to the test, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 26 And He said to him, "What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?" 27 And he answered and said, "You shall love the (Lord) your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and will all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself." Deut 6:4, "Hear, O Israel! The (Lord) our God, the Lord is one! 5 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might." From the heart, Ray |
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358 | your bibical response to this verse? | Acts 23:9 | Ray | 139863 | ||
Hi Tim, We have the possibility that no one said "Let's not fight against God". The NU text omits that sentence. From the heart, Ray |
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359 | What were they rebellious against? | Ps 106:20 | Ray | 139862 | ||
Hi DC, You wrote, "Their glory is the place God has prepared in Heaven". Would you rephrase that or add to it so that I know what you are saying? I hear you saying that people exchanging life in Christ for a steady income and strength are rebelliing and leaving God's glory. That is a good thought. What do you think they are rebelling against? The NASB for Psalm 106:33 reads, "Because they were rebellious against His Spirit, He spoke rashly with his lips." Because of the literary style in the NASB, the "He spoke rashly" is confusing as far as capitalization is concerned. The question I am asking now is more of a capitalization question and may not be of interest to you with your particular literary style as well. I believe that the NKJ is more clear in its capitalization here for this verse in that it reads, "Because they rebelled against His Spirit, So that he spoke rashly with his lips." Question, then: Who or what are they rebelling against in verse 33? Who or what are they rebelling against when they exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an ox that eats grass in verse 20? Romans 1:22, "Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures." Psalm 106:20, Amplified, "Thus they exchanged Him Who was their Glory for the image of an ox that eats grass [they traded their Honor for the image of a calf]! They exchanged their Honor. They exchanged their Glory. Could we say that together with understanding? From the heart, Ray |
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360 | A seeming difference: Gen. 24:8 and 41? | Gen 24:41 | Ray | 139811 | ||
Hi epbentley, I think that the relatives of Rebekah could have refused to let her go. Rebekah could have said, "I will not go". Abraham recognized all of that, but he was concerned about the end result and that is why he said "But if the woman is not willing to follow you, then you will be free from this my oath;..." Abraham was not asking the servant to kidnap a bride to be for Isaac. I can relate to this story because my one and only, our daughter Rachel was married this summer. Her husband asked my wife and I for our blessing for their marrying so we knew before our daughter did that he was going to ask her. Yet, the bottom line again is that the relatives are not participants in the marriage. The choices are made by the bride and groom. I was happy that our son in law communicated with us beforehand, but we could not have stopped their relationship if we had wanted to. The servant knew that the girl would have to give her approval, and he also knew that he had to go through the relatives or else he would be in trouble.:) Things haven't changed very much. It is amazing that many arranged marriages, mail-order brides, young women like Rebekah who leave everything for an unknown man; still find love in marriage. 1) I would not capitalize an "angel" to show respect. I would capitalize Angel in Genesis to recognize Him as Deity. Verses that could persuade you are verses like Genesis 31:11,12. Genesis 31:11, NKJ, "Then the Angel of God spoke to me in a dream, saying, 'Jacob.' And I said, 'Here I am.' 12 "And He said, 'Lift your eyes now and see, all the rams which leap on the flocks are streaked, speckled, and gray-spotted; for I have seen all that Laban is doing to you. 13 I am the God of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and where you made a vow to Me. Now arise, get out of this land, and return to the land of your family." Here the Angel says that "I am the God of Bethel". He doesn't say, "Hear the word of the God of Bethel". It is good talking with you. I hope you are enjoying the forum. From the heart, Ray |
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