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381 | Divorce Cult Member ? | 1 Cor 7:1 | Radioman2 | 87378 | ||
Show us the BOOK, the CHAPTER and the VERSE where the Bible plainly teaches that "if a believer is marryed (sic) to an unbeliever and the unbeliever prevents the believer from worshiping God that they are to seperate." You've given us a book and a chapter, but where is the VERSE that teaches what you say the Bible teaches? When you make an assertion, the burden of proof is on you. When you come up with a Scriptural, reasonable argument for what you believe, I'll be glad to consider it. But I'm still waiting to see your Scriptural evidence. |
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382 | Security of the Believer (Backsliding) | Luke 8:13 | Radioman2 | 87374 | ||
Hello, EdB: I respectfully disagree with the AG position on this particular issue, although I agree on other issues. The reason I posted it was to provide good, reasonable arguments against the doctrine of "once saved always saved." Certainly there are true Christians who hold to the position that the Assemblies of God does. Out of respect for those Christians I have presented the AG position and the Scriptures and reasoning behind it. Sorry, but I haven't checked my email in a day or two. I'll get to it as soon as I can. Ever your fellow-believer and friend, Radioman2 :-) |
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383 | Stanley reliance. Burning building quest | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87341 | ||
Ecargneb: Your apology is accepted and appreciated, although not necessary. I am not offended. Nor do I feel that it was your intent to belittle my contributions. Further, in the context of this thread only, I can understand why you referred to a reliance upon Charles Stanley. Also, the intent of my previous note was not to scold you, but merely to set the record straight. So there is no harm done. I esteem you as highly as ever. Everything is OK. Grace and peace be multiplied to you! Radioman2 |
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384 | Do the will of the Father to enter heave | Matt 7:21 | Radioman2 | 87334 | ||
AMPLIFIED 1 John 3:6 No one who abides in Him [who lives and remains in communion with and in obedience to Him--deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] commits (practices) sin. No one who [habitually] sins has either seen or known Him [recognized, perceived, or understood Him, or has had an experiential acquaintance with Him]. AMPLIFIED 1 John 3:9 No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God's nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God. Using the Search function to check my postings, you will see that I have never said we can deliberately, knowingly and habitually practice disobedience and still claim to be born of God. No one who [habitually] sins has either seen or known Him. (See 1 John 3:6-10, especially in the Amplified Bible.) |
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385 | Security of the Believer (Backsliding) | Luke 8:13 | Radioman2 | 87332 | ||
Security of the Believer (Backsliding) [All of the following is a direct quote from the web page (http://ag.org/top/beliefs/christian_doctrines/gendoct_09_security.cfm). The article has been edited solely to fit within space limitations.] What is the Assemblies of God position on the security of the believer's salvation? ...We believe it is possible for a person once saved to turn from God and be lost again... In view of the biblical teaching that the security of the believer depends on a living relationship with Christ (John 15:6); in view of the Bible's call to a life of holiness (1 Peter 1:16; Hebrews 12:14); in view of the clear teaching that a man may have his part taken out of the Book of Life (Revelation 22:19); and in view of the fact that one who believes for a while can fall away (Luke 8:13); The General Council of the Assemblies of God disapproves of the unconditional security position which holds that it is impossible for a person once saved to be lost. ( . . . ) The Assemblies of God leans toward Arminianism, though it accepts scriptural truth found in both positions. We agree with the Calvinist emphasis on God's sovereignty or supreme power and authority. But we also firmly believe the Arminian emphasis on mankind's free will and responsibility for his actions and choices. We believe the Bible teaches both truths. "Eternal security," according to Calvinists, means "once saved, always saved." The key passage for this position is John 10:28,29— "No one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand." There is great assurance in this passage and in Romans 8:35,39—"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? . . . Neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." The Assemblies of God also stands on these wonderful truths knowing we need not fear that something external will overpower us and take away our salvation. Only our willful choices can do that. But because we are creatures with free wills, we must be vigilantly on guard because the enemy of our soul, the devil, "prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith" (1 Peter 5:8,9). In our Fellowship we believe carelessness can lead to apathy, apathy to neglect, and neglect to a conscious decision to sin. We often refer to this spiritual decline as backsliding. We believe one who backslides is in danger of losing his salvation if the individual persists in rejecting the Spirit's call to repentance and restoration. Luke 8:13 makes clear the fact that believers can lose their salvation. It says some "believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." Revelation 22:19 says "If anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life, and in the holy city." Certainly there are true Christians who believe and teach Calvinism; there are also true Christians who believe and teach that men and women have free will. Unfortunately, both sides have spent more time arguing doctrinal terminology and interpretations of theology than reaching out to a lost world. The irony of the disagreement is that Calvinists, who believe in predestination, are sometimes more active in witnessing and evangelism than Arminians who believe that man has a free will and should be encouraged to accept Christ as Savior. God, of course, looks on the heart and the actions rather than on the eloquence with which one defends a position. CONCERNS: Although the Assemblies of God adheres basically to the Arminian position on the spiritual security of the believer, there are extremes and potential abuses which must be avoided. The Christian life is not a roller coaster of Sunday salvation and Monday through Saturday backsliding. On the other hand, no Christian, no matter how spiritual, can claim perfection and sinlessness (1 John 1:8-10; 2:1). Therefore as Christians we must continually come to God sincerely asking His forgiveness for living below the potential He makes possible through the gift of His Holy Spirit. The truth of God's marvelous and free grace has sadly led some to imagine and indulge in a cheap grace, a grace that covers all sins with no need to live a holy life. Such an attitude is an insult to the great price Christ paid to purchase our salvation. Though we may fail and fall, and sometimes sin, the heart of the true believer always regrets, repents, asks forgiveness, and seeks never to sin that way again. To carelessly participate in sin, expecting to gain forgiveness later, is itself an act of backsliding that will lead ultimately to losing one's salvation. We therefore reject any "once saved, always saved" doctrine that excuses sinful lifestyles. |
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386 | Do the will of the Father to enter heave | Matt 7:21 | Radioman2 | 87284 | ||
Ecargneb: You are correct. "Faith in Jesus is displayed by obedience to God's commands." The emphasis is on "displayed by." Obedience is the result, not the cause, of saving faith. Radioman2 |
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387 | Losing our salvation | Heb 10:26 | Radioman2 | 87282 | ||
Ecargneb: Welcome to the forum! :-) Hebrews 10:26 "knowledge. The Gr. term denotes specific knowledge, not general spiritual knowledge (compare Heb 6:4; compare 1 Tim 2:4). Though the knowledge was not defective or incomplete, the application of the knowledge was certainly flawed. Judas Iscariot is a good example of a disciple who had no lack of knowledge, but lacked faith and became the arch-apostate." (p. 1915, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997) Grace and peace, Radioman2 |
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388 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87278 | ||
Repost of ID# 28726 by Morant61 The Nestle Aland Text, the UBS Text, the Majority Text all use the phrase 'apo tou xulou tas zoas.' (I'm not sure of the transliteration). The phrase is translated "from the tree of life." The Textus Receptus and Scrivener's Text both use the phrase 'apo biblou tas zoas.' This phrase is translated "from book of life." Both the Textus Receptus (which the KJV is based upon) and Scrivener's Text used only a handful of manuscripts in the compliation of their text. As a result, there are ocassionally readings which are not supported by the better Greek texts. This is one of those cases! By the way, the word 'tree' is Strongs number #3586. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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389 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87276 | ||
Rev 22:19 American Standard Version (1901) and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. NASB and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. NIV And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. NRSV if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Holman Christian Standard Bible And if anyone takes away from the words of this prophetic book, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, written in this book. TEV And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book. New Living Translation And if anyone removes any of the words of this prophetic book, God will remove that person's share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book. New Century Version And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away that one's share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are written about in this book. GOD'S WORD Translation If anyone takes away any words from this book of prophecy, God will take away his portion of the tree of life and the holy city that are described in this book. World English Bible If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, may God take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. The Bible in Basic English And if any man takes away from the words of this book, God will take away from him his part in the tree of life and the holy town, even the things which are in this book. The Darby Translation And if any one take from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. Wesley's New Testament and that if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the holy city--the things described in this book. The point of my answer is that in Revelation 22:19 the editors of the NASB, NIV and 11 other translations of the Bible chose the reading "tree of life" rather than "the book of life." In these 13 translations "How does God take away his part out of the book of life?" becomes a moot question. |
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390 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87246 | ||
If you "don't think this passage (Rev 13:8 ) is the focal point of anything," then: Why build an anti-Election doctrine upon it? Why debate it? Why use it as a primary proof-text in the argument against Eternal Salvation? It seems a contradiction to me that people would use this verse to prove Eternal In-security, if it is not the focal point of anything. It's like one minute they're saying this verse carries a lot of weight, and the next minute they're saying this verse has little weight in the discussion. |
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391 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87242 | ||
EdB, ID# 87217: "PS I didn't ask any questions." EdB, ID# 87195 (EdB's previous post): 1) "He could if He wanted erase any name He desired from the book of life. Does God ever do this?" 2) "Why do we even care about it?" 3) "Are any of us thinking of testing God to see what we can get away with before He would erase us?" 4) "The whole discussion is about soemthing none of us can explain with certainity so why try?" Rhetorical questions are not questions? Yes, they are. Rhetorical QUESTIONS are still QUESTIONS. Any sentence that ends in a question mark, by definition, is a question. A period ends a statement. An exclamation point ends an exclamation. A question mark ends a question. "To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: (http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html)" -- ID# 87192 |
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392 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87213 | ||
"To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: (http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html)" -- ID# 87192 |
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393 | Divorce Cult Member ? | 1 Cor 7:1 | Radioman2 | 87210 | ||
Show us the book, the chapter and the verse where the Bible plainly teaches that "if a believer is marryed (sic) to an unbeliever and the unbeliever prevents the believer from worshiping God that they are to seperate." You will find no such verse in the Bible. |
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394 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | Radioman2 | 87192 | ||
He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life. Revelation 3:5 "It is unfortunate that this passage in Revelation has become a focal point of controversy. The result has been a fixation on what the verse does not say rather than what it does say. This verse was never intended as a warning. Within its context there is nothing negative or foreboding about these words. In fact, it makes a strong statement in favor of eternal security. It is a passage of encouragement and praise. "The comments are directed to a group of faithful believers from the church in Sardis. Unlike the majority of the folks in their congregation, this handful of members had remained unsoiled by the world around them. The verse in question contains Christ's commendation to this group for their consistent walk. "To assume from what is said here that God will possibly erase names from the book of life is to read into the text a concept clearly not present. At best, it is an argument from silence, for the verse simply reads, "And I will not erase his name from the book of life." If this statement raises doubts for some about eternal security, they would do well to search the Scriptures for an answer. But to base one's answer to this important question on this verse is to adopt a method of study with the potential of leading to all kinds of problematic conclusions." (...) "The good news is, God's pencil has no eraser. Before you breathed your first word, God knew how you would respond to His offer of grace. According to His foreknowledge, He wrote your name in the book of life. And there it shall remain forever. Jesus said it this way: "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow me; and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. John 10.27-28 "And as if that were not clear enough: "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. John 10.29 " (To read the entire article, which I suggest you do before you post questions, go to: http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/bible_says/eternal_security/erase_149096.html) |
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395 | Active Homosexuals: Truly Christian? | Rom 1:21 | Radioman2 | 87117 | ||
Tim: Excellent post! Well said! You give a clear and concise explanation of what it means to "be careful that 'reaching out' does not become a tacit approval of said sins." Also, I agree that JustReadMark makes some excellent points about sin in general. Le 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination Proverbs 6 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. As we all know, homosexual sin is [an] abomination. And so is lying! Radioman2 |
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396 | Divisions in the church | NT general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 87112 | ||
Issues -- Essential or Peripheral? Jman: "When we talk about the essentials of Christianity we're referring to the basic elements that make up and characterize our faith, and which, of course, separate it from other beliefs" (www.equip.org). PERIPHERAL ISSUES "There is a fundamental core of beliefs and teachings that identify any particular denomination as being Christian. That is why we call them Christian denominations. It may be that these denominations differ in regards to the finer points--points that may be moot or debatable. ( . . . ) "Most of the differences in denominations are similar to this kind of thing. Do you worship on Saturday or on Sunday? In the morning or the evening? Do you use instruments or no instruments? Should you have a choir? Should you teach topically or verse by verse? How do you baptize? What are your particular views about the way salvation is mediated by God? How about the Holy Spirit? Do you speak in tongues or not? These are more peripheral issues to the fundamental superstructure of what C. S. Lewis called 'mere Christianity'" (http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/whatis.htm) (See also ID# 85744). ESSENTIAL ISSUES The essentials of Christianity include: "the plenary inspiration and inerrancy of the Scriptures; the triune Godhead composed of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; the virgin birth and Deity of Christ; the necessity and efficacy of His atoning work; Christ's bodily resurrection and ascension;...the everlasting felicity of the redeemed; and the everlasting punishment of the lost." (New Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford, 1967) Radioman2 |
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397 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Radioman2 | 87046 | ||
Part 2 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH ABOUT ELECTION? (continued from previous Note) 'Occasionally someone will suggest that God's election is based on His foreknowledge of certain events. This argument suggests that God simply looks into the future to see who will believe, and He chooses those whom He sees choosing Him. Notice that 1 Peter 1:2 says the elect are chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father," and Romans 8:29 says, "whom He foreknew, He also predestined." And if divine foreknowledge simply means God's knowledge of what will happen in advance, then these arguments may appear to have some weight behind them. 'But that is not the biblical meaning of "foreknowledge." When the Bible speaks of God's foreknowledge, it refers to God's establishment of a love relationship with that person. The word "know," in both the Old and New Testament, refers to much more than mere cognitive knowledge of a person. Such passages as Hosea 13:4-5; Amos 3:2 (KJV); and Romans 11:2 clearly indicate this. For example, 1 Peter 1:20 says Christ was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." Surely this means more than that God the Father looked into the future to behold Christ! It means He had an eternal, loving relationship with Him. The same is true of the elect, whom we are told God "foreknew" (Romans 8:29). That means He knew them--he loved them--before the foundation of the world. 'If God's choice of the elect is unconditional, does this rule out human responsibility? Paul asks and answers that very question in Romans 9:19-20. He says God's choice of the elect is an act of mercy. Left to themselves, even the elect would persist in sin and be lost, because they are taken from the same fallen lump of clay as the rest of humanity. God alone is responsible for their salvation, but that does not eradicate the responsibility of those who persist in sin and are lost--because they do it willfully, and not under compulsion. They are responsible for their sin, not God. 'The Bible affirms human responsibility right alongside the doctrine of divine sovereignty. Moreover, the offer of mercy in the gospel is extended to all alike. Isaiah 55:1 and Revelation 22:17 call "whosoever will" to be saved. Isaiah 45:22 and Acts 17:30 command all men to turn to God, repent and be saved. First Timothy 2:4 and 2 Peter 3:9 tell us that God is not willing that any should perish, but desires that all should be saved. Finally, the Lord Jesus said that, "the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out" (John 6:37). 'In summary, we can say that God has had a special love relationship with the elect from all eternity, and on the basis of that love relationship chosen them for salvation. The ultimate question of why God chose some for salvation and left others in their sinful state is one that we, with our finite knowledge, cannot answer. We do know that God's attributes always are in perfect harmony with each other, so that God's sovereignty will always operate in perfect harmony with His goodness, love, wisdom, and justice.' ____________________ For further study: John MacArthur, The Love of God (Dallas: Word, 1996). J. I. Packer, Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 1961). (Article by John MacArthur at www.gty.org - listed in Issues and Answers archives.) |
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398 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Radioman2 | 87045 | ||
Part 1 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH ABOUT ELECTION? 'Election is the act of God whereby in eternity past He chose those who will be saved. Election is unconditional, because it does not depend on anything outside of God, such as good works or foreseen faith (Romans 9:16). This doctrine is repeatedly taught in the Bible, and is also demanded by our knowledge of God. To begin with, let's look at the biblical evidence. 'The Bible says prior to salvation, all people are dead in sin-- spiritually dead (Ephesians 2:1-3). In this state of death, the sinner is utterly unable to respond to any spiritual stimulus and therefore unable to love God, obey Him, or please Him in any way. Scripture says the mind of every unbeliever "is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so; and those who are in the flesh cannot please God" (Romans 8:7-8, emphasis added). That describes a state of total hopelessness: spiritual death. 'The effect of all this is that no sinner can ever make the first move in the salvation process. This is what Jesus meant in John 6:44, when He said, "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him." 'This is also why the Bible repeatedly stresses that salvation is wholly God's work. In Acts 13:48 we read, "And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed." 'Acts 16 tells us that Lydia was saved when, " . . . the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul." 'Romans 8:29-30 states, "For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first-born among many brethren; and whom He predestined, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified." 'Ephesians 1:4-5,11 reads, "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will . . . also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will." 'Ephesians 2:8 suggests that even our faith is a gift from God. 'In 2 Thessalonians 2:13, the apostle Paul tells his readers, "God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation." 'Second Timothy 1:9 informs us that God "has saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity."' ____________________ Article by John MacArthur at (www.gty.org) - listed in Issues and Answers archives). (To be continued.) |
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399 | once saved always saved | John 10:28 | Radioman2 | 87044 | ||
John Reformed: Thanks for your Note. I am quite willing to continue along this line. :-) My thoughts? Let me be succinct: Eternal security? -- Yes The BIBLE doctrine of election[1]? - Yes Arminianism? -- NO ____________________ Footnote: 1. The BIBLE doctrine of election is summed up in the following NT verses: Even as [in His love] He chose us [actually picked us out for Himself as His own] in Christ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy (consecrated and set apart for Him) and blameless in His sight, even above reproach, before Him in love. (AMPLIFIED Ephesians 1:4 ) But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth. (NASB 2 Thessalonians 2:13 b) ____________________ In the next two Notes I will be somewhat less than succinct. :-) Grace and peace to you, Radioman2 |
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400 | Heresy Hunting or Biblical Mandate? | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 87042 | ||
Now these [Jews] were better disposed and more noble than those in Thessalonica, for they were entirely ready and accepted and welcomed the message [concerning the attainment through Christ of eternal salvation in the kingdom of God] with inclination of mind and eagerness, searching and examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. (AMPLIFIED Acts 17:11 ) Asis writes: "We must be like the Bereans. They didn't believe Paul." Asis, are you serious? Nowhere in the Bible does it say or imply the Bereans didn't believe Paul. This idea is total nonsense. It's absurd and unscriptural. The text in Acts 17:11 plainly says: "they were entirely ready and accepted and welcomed the message [of Paul and Silas] ...with inclination of mind and eagerness," I say again: They were entirely ready and accepted and welcomed the message. WITH INCLINATION OF MIND AND EAGERNESS. This is a far cry from "They didn't believe Paul." |
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