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201 | Pre-Tribulation Rapture | NT general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 94669 | ||
WHAT IS PRETRIB'S ORIGIN? 'First of all, pretribulationism didn't exist before 1830 and there is considerable documentary proof that it was initially introduced in England by Edward Irving, the father of the charismatic Apostolic Church and not John Darby. Edward Irving probably picked up the idea of an "any moment rapture" from his work on the translation of Emanuel Lucunza's book, The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty, a Catholic priest who initially wrote the book in Spanish under the pen name of Rabbi Ben Ezra. In reality, with whom the pretribulationism position originated really does not make that much difference other than the fact that it contradicts the first 1800 years of prophetic thought and contradicts the plain teaching of the New Testament. 'On the other had, the basic tenant of prewrath (that the Church will undergo the persecution of Antichrist before the return of Christ) was taught clearly and consistently by early Church fathers. Among the evangelicals, what other basic doctrine of Scripture, other than pretribulationism, has been "discovered" in the past 160 years and directly contradicts the basic, accepted teachings (as a whole) of the early church fathers? There is none. Some will tell you that pretribulationism is a result of "progressive revelation," but look out. There is a lot of baggage when you take that position. Where do you stop and who decides where? The revelation of God ceased with the completion of Scriptures.' To read more go to:(http://www.solagroup.org/articles/endtimes/et_0006.html) |
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202 | Pre-Tribulation Rapture | NT general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 94656 | ||
'The misrepresentation of John being the church. 'It is said that the church is not present during the events of Revelation because in chapter 4:1, John is called to "come up here". John is said to be a picture of the church, and therefore it (the church) is in heaven during the days of the 70th week of Daniel. But is that a valid inference? Nowhere in all of the New Testament is there warrant to apply the understanding that John represents the church in Rev. 4:1. The context clearly implies that "John" refers to... John, and no one else. He is simply given a heavenly perspective of what is going on behind the visible world and what will take place during the last days. Nothing else. To say otherwise is to grasp at straws to try to support a hollow argument." (http://www.solagroup.org/articles/faqs/faq_0027.html) --Radioman2 |
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203 | Pre-Tribulation Rapture | NT general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 94653 | ||
'Why is the church not mentioned in Revelation 4-22? 'By Rev. Charles Cooper 'It is assumed by pretribulationists that the church is not present on earth during the events spoken of in the majority of the book of Revelation. This thinking is based primarily on the absence of the word "church" from Revelation 3:22 to Revelation 20:16. If the "church" is not mentioned, it is concluded, she must have been raptured prior to the events written about. Further, it is assumed that the invitation to the apostle John in Revelation 4:1 to "come up here" is a picture of the rapture of the church preceding the events of the 70th week. 'It is important to examine these assumptions because they clearly attempt to place the rescue of the righteous (the rapture) before Daniel's 70th week and not after. If that is so, it should be clearly taught in Scripture. 'For several compelling reasons, it is a false conclusion to assume that the church will be raptured before the 70th week of Daniel (and for that reason is not mentioned between chapters 4 and 20): '1. The plain teaching of Scripture. Jesus, in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24:3-31), outlines the sequence of events in the last days relative to the church. Verses 3-14 parallel Revelation chapter 6 and depict those events from the beginning of the 70th week to the rapture. Then, in verses 15-28, He focuses on the middle time period of that future week (the final 7 years) and emphasizes two key events: (a) a time of great persecution, and (b) the "cut[ting] short" of "those days" of persecution for "the sake of the elect". Finally, in verses 29-31, He highlights what it is that will "cut short" that persecution, the rescue of the elect (the rapture). 'Paul echoes this same teaching in his 2nd letter to the Thessalonians 2:1-12: (a) the apostasy comes first, (b) the revealing of the man of lawlessness, (c) the "challenge" to all who will not bow down to him and worship him "as being God", and (d) the coming of the Lord to "gather together" believers unto Himself. 'In Revelation 6-8, we have the same sequence repeated: (a) the 70th week begins, (b) the pressure builds [seals 1-3], (c) the midpoint [seals 4-5] and apex of the persecution (against the "saints") arrives, (d) the "cut[ting] short" of that persecution with the same cosmic announcement [seal 6] as Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:29-31 followed by the rapture of the saints (Revelation 7:9ff). There is absolutely no teaching either by hint or by direct instruction that the church will not be present during the 70th week of Daniel. (...) '5. The argument from silence. It is maintained that since the word "church" isn't used again from 3:22 until 22:6, she is absent from the events unfolding during that time period. That's an argument from silence. If we apply that same argument to the gospel of John, we have to conclude that the gospel of John isn't for the church because the word church isn't even mentioned in all of its chapters. Can that be true? 'The overwhelming evidence is that the church is indeed present during the 70th week of Daniel regardless of whether the word is used or not. What one believes must be squarely built on what the Bible clearly says, not on what we might like it to say for whatever reason. What we believe about the last days will have tremendous implications for our lives should we enter those days. Let us be Bereans, searching to see if these things are so. (Acts 17:11)' (http://www.solagroup.org/articles/faqs/faq_0027.html) |
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204 | What constitutes 'abuse' on the forum? | Acts 17:11 | Radioman2 | 94627 | ||
EdB: "Strange how first-class, super-Christians, who would have us believe they are tapping into divine revelation, can do all things in Christ, except successfully defend their damnable doctrines of demons." (Paul R. Belli and G. Richard Fisher (http://www.pfo.org/preacher.htm)) Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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205 | 7. THE SPOKEN WORD MADE FLESH: KC | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 94592 | ||
9. THE BELIEVER'S AUTHORITY: The Teachings of Kenneth Copeland [Note: Numbers in text are footnote numbers. To read footnotes providing reference sources for this article, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm)] 'Copeland's basis for the believer's authority can be viewed in three distinct stages. First, upon conversion the believer undergoes a total and immediate change of nature. At the moment of spiritual birth "the spirit of God hovered over you, and there was conceived in your body a holy thing identical to Jesus....And there was imparted into you zoe, the life of God" (emphases added).76 Hence, "you are to think the way Jesus thought. He didn't think it robbery to be equal with God."77 Copeland's remarks, "You are not a spiritual schizophrenic - half-God and half-Satan - you are all-God"78 and "You don't have a God in you; you are one,"79 demonstrate that being born again means nothing less to him than becoming a god. 'Yet Scripture states there is only one God who indwells all believers (John 14:17, 23). Additionally, the Bible views spiritual birth not in terms of a change of nature (from satanic to divine), but as the regeneration of a uniquely human spirit by God (2 Cor. 5:17; Tit. 3:5). 'In the second stage of his discourse, Copeland teaches that the believer's change of nature (into a god) brings with it a proportional change in ability. "Every man that has been born again has had this faith [viz. God's] put inside him," he writes. "This faith is good enough to make all things possible to the believer."80 'Copeland comments, "As a born-again believer, you are equipped with the Word. You have the power of God at your disposal. By getting the Word deep into your spirit and speaking it boldly out your mouth, you release spiritual power to change things in the natural circumstances."81 'The believer is thus allegedly able to speak things into existence by way of faith-filled words, or positive confession. But as we have already shown, Copeland's views of faith and words are without legitimate scriptural warrant, and are therefore invalid when applied to the believer. 'In the third stage of Copeland's teaching on the believer's authority, we are told that knowing and exercising the rights set forth under the covenant guarantee success in confession. He remarks that the Bible "is the wisdom of God placed in covenant contract....Everything in it is mine....You just keep looking at it, and keep reading it, and that covenant will turn you into that kind of person - whatever it is you decide to be."82 'Copeland translates his concept of covenant rights into what has been termed the "health and wealth" or "prosperity" message. "The basic principle of the Christian life is to know that God put our sin, sickness, disease, sorrow, grief, and poverty on Jesus at Calvary," he asserts. "For Him to put any of this on us now would be a miscarriage of justice."83 ____________________ To read more, including extensive footnotes, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm) matt2411 |
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206 | The truth in Revelation? | Rev 1:1 | Radioman2 | 94585 | ||
NASB Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, --Radioman2 |
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207 | Where are today's visions? | Prov 29:18 | Radioman2 | 94529 | ||
DL5: Colossians 2:18; Proverbs 29:18; I Sam. 3:1; Amos 8:11, 12 and www.netbible.com are hardly my opinion, now are they? --Radioman2 |
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208 | Where are today's visions? | Prov 29:18 | Radioman2 | 94518 | ||
Let no one defraud you by acting as an umpire and declaring you unworthy and disqualifying you for the prize, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on VISIONS [HE CLAIMS] HE HAS SEEN, vainly puffed up by his sensuous notions and inflated by his unspiritual thoughts and fleshly conceit, AMPLIFIED Colossians 2:18 (Emphasis added.) In Proverbs 29:18 the word "vision" does not mean something seen in a dream, trance, or ecstasy. Nor does it refer to individual goals that are formed. As the following will show, the word "vision" here refers to divine communication to prophets, i.e. the Word of the Lord. When there is no vision[57] the people cast off restraint, but the one who keeps the law,[59] blessed is he! Prov 29:18 New English Translation '57 sn The word "vision" (from the Hebrew verb hzj [jzh, "to see"]) refers to divine communication to prophets (as in 1 Sam 3:1) and not to individual goals that are formed...' '59sn The law here refers to scripture, the concrete form of revelation. So the two halves of the verse provide the contrast: when there is no revelation there is chaos, but those who keep the revelation find blessing.' ____________________ AMPLIFIED Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no vision [no redemptive revelation of God], the people perish; but he who keeps the law [of God, which includes that of man]--blessed (happy, fortunate, and enviable) is he. [I Sam. 3:1; Amos 8:11, 12.] 1 Samuel 3:1 (ESV) Now the young man Samuel was ministering to the Lord under Eli. And the word of the Lord was rare in those days; there was no frequent vision. Amos 8:11-12 (ESV) "Behold, the days are coming," declares the Lord God, "when I will send a famine on the land- not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord. [12] They shall wander from sea to sea, and from north to east; they shall run to and fro, to seek the word of the Lord, but they shall not find it. --Radioman2 |
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209 | 7. THE SPOKEN WORD MADE FLESH: KC | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 94498 | ||
7. THE SPOKEN WORD MADE FLESH: The Teachings of Kenneth Copeland [Note: Numbers in text are footnote numbers. To read footnotes providing reference sources for this article, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm)] '"God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus," Copeland explains. "This [sic] faith-filled words that framed the image that's in Him....He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world [Satan]."52 Using a combination of faith and confession, "God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again....He kept saying, 'He is coming. He is coming.'"53 However, "the only avenue God had to get His words into the earth was through men... [t]hrough the mouths of His prophets....Finally, the great moment came when that Word was brought forth in human form."54 'During this final phase, "the angels spoke the words of the covenant to her [Mary], and the Spirit of God hovered over her and generated that seed, which was the Word that the angel spoke to her. And there was conceived in her, the Bible says, a holy thing. The Word literally became flesh."55 'The notion of Jesus being the end product of generations of positive confession is categorically unbiblical. It suggests that the Word of John chapter one was a creation (the personalization of the previously impersonal words of God) rather than the eternally existent Creator (see vv.1-3), thus subverting the deity of Christ and the doctrine of the Trinity. 'Copeland also gave a "prophecy" in which Jesus allegedly said, "They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. But I didn't claim I was God; I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me."56 Copeland asserts Jesus did not openly claim to be God because "He hadn't come to earth as God, He'd come as man. He'd set aside His divine power."57 Citing Philippians 2:5-7, he states that the incarnate Christ "had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit."58 'The passage Copeland cites (v. 6), however, describes Christ as "being in very nature God." The participle "being" is rendered in the present active tense (Greek: huparchon), denoting Christ's ongoing condition as having the nature of God. Christ did not give up His divine attributes during His incarnation (cf. Col. 2:9; Heb. 13:8), but instead added to them (see Phil. 2:7, "taking") a full human nature in the form of a servant. Moreover, Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man (Mark 2:5-10; cf. Dan. 7:13-14) and the unique Son of God the Father (John 5:18; 10:30-33), demonstrating His claim to be God.59 'In Copeland's view, three basic factors enabled Jesus to perform miracles. First, "the force of faith was controlling His ministry."60 Second, "He exercised that authority by the use of words."61 Third, "He used the Covenant to control the laws of nature."62 Copeland's view, however, rests upon a false understanding of faith, the spoken word, and the Abrahamic covenant, and is therefore erroneous. ____________________ To read more, including extensive footnotes, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm) |
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210 | Sola Scriptura-A False teaching | 2 Tim 3:16 | Radioman2 | 94473 | ||
The following is what you read and agree to every time you submit a Question or Note. Believe it or not, these terms of use are enforced by StudyBibleForum.com. 'To adhere to StudyBibleForum's intended purpose, please read the following before submitting a post: '1. This post is biblically based and whenever possible, I have included Bible references to support it. '2. This post is not intended as A PERSONAL ATTACK ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE or on other users of this forum. '3. This post is not submitted as an effort to foster divisiveness, ill-will, dissension or other disruptions to this forum.' (http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.php3) (Emphasis added.) Posting to the forum is not a right; it is a privilege. To abuse it is to LOSE it. |
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211 | Authority of the bible in question? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Radioman2 | 94472 | ||
DAIRYLEADER5: You write: "the only authority Christians should listen to is the Holy Ghost." I strongly disagree. 'The only voice of God we are ever commanded to hear, to know, and to obey . . . is the written, fully inspired, fully accurate Word of God: the Bible' (www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/doesgodt.htm). --Radioman2 |
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212 | He doesn't try to speak and not get hear | Heb 1:2 | Radioman2 | 94466 | ||
God doesn't "try" to speak and not get heard. Does God Try? Some hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way. 'God doesn't try. He is all-powerful. God doesn't attempt. He knows everything. Whatever He intends to accomplish He does, in fact, accomplish. 'Now I've got another question. What about this sense in many evangelical circles, especially in charismatic ones, that God is working hard to speak to individuals, but they don't "hear His voice" because they simply aren't listening? What of the notion that the ability to hear the voice of God requires we simply quiet ourselves and get in tune? 'Many have bought the idea that optimal Christian living involves "experiencing God" in a special manner: hearing His voice and getting special directives or assignments from Him. For those who say, "I don't hear God," the rejoinder is often, "He's been trying to talk to you, but you weren't listening." ( . . . ) 'I know of no place in the Bible, ladies and gentlemen, where God attempted to speak and He wasn't heard. Frequently, He wasn't obeyed, true enough. Certainly, people hardened their hearts against the revelation–which itself was clear–and refused to believe that which was spoken. But I know of no case where God was speaking and He just couldn't get through because people were not listening. 'For goodness sake, we're talking about special revelation. Paul's says in Romans 1 that even general revelation is so obvious and so forceful that people must actively suppress the truth in unrighteousness in order to ignore it. 'As far as I can tell, the Bible knows of no such thing as God trying to speak, but is incapable of being heard because fallen men and women have somehow closed Him off, denied His ability, and so can't hear Him or are just simply too busy to hear the still, small voice of God. 'This is simply a matter of consistent reasoning. It seems to me that if we hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way, then we have to accept as valid the same objection against the authority of Scripture and surrender our confidence that God could guarantee the outcome of the writing of the Bible. 'If, however, we say that God is big enough to overcome any human limitations so He can guarantee the word-for-word accuracy of the Scripture, then the same sovereign power is available to God to speak to any individual when He so chooses. God doesn't "try" to speak and not get heard. 'Now, if that's true, then we don't have to spend any time quieting our lives to hear the voice of God as He "tries" to penetrate all the clamor. Instead, we can simply turn our gaze upon the only voice of God we are ever commanded to hear, to know, and to obey. That is the written, fully inspired, fully accurate Word of God: the Bible.' (www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/doesgodt.htm) --Radioman2 |
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213 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94421 | ||
Did Christ take back the keys? Gracefull: You write: "Jesus did come forth with the keys to death, Hell and the grave." My reply: Nowhere in the Bible is there a clear verse of Scripture to indicate that Christ TOOK BACK any keys or that Satan had possession of keys. In the entire King James Version of the Bible, the word "key" appears in 6 verses. The word "keys" appears in 2 verses. Thus, "key" and "keys" appear a total of 8 times in the KJV. The following is ALL the Bible has to say about key(s): Jud 3:25 And they tarried till they were ashamed: and, behold, he opened not the doors of the parlour; therefore they took a key, and opened them: and, behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth. Isa 22:22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open. Lu 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Re 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; Re 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. Re 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Mt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Re 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. --Radioman2 |
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214 | Can Satan know our thoughts? | Rom 12:2 | Radioman2 | 94334 | ||
Christian24: You write: "Satan does know your thoughts." No, he doesn't. Satan is neither all-knowing nor all-powerful nor everywhere present at the same time. Only God possesses these attributes. Satan cannot know your thoughts or read your mind. In the Gospels we read that Jesus knew their (men's) thoughts and Jesus knew what was in man. You are not comparing Satan (the creature) with Christ (the Creator), are you? Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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215 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94332 | ||
The wages of sin is DEATH. EdB: Again I agree with you. Ro 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord The idea that Satan has a little air-conditioned office in hell where he runs the place or that he gets to torment sinners is totally absurd and not found anywhere in Scripture. Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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216 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94328 | ||
??? "Sin did not overpower Him, He yielded to it." ??? Jesus yielded Himself to the will of the Father - period. --Radioman2 |
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217 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94323 | ||
EdB: "Why look for truth in a false doctrine? I'm sure it may contain some but why look?" EdB: I agree with you -- why even look for truth in a false doctrine? Why bother? "Meyer apparently prefers to hold onto teachings scraped from the garbage cans of the Word-Faith movement." (THE PREACHER WHO DOESN’T TELL IT LIKE IT IS: THE TRUTH TWISTING AND TALL TALES OF JOYCE MEYER by Paul R. Belli and G. Richard Fisher. (http://www.pfo.org/preacher.htm)) Perhaps at times one will find a little edible food in a garbage can. But we don't go scavenging among garbage cans looking for a mere scrap of truth when God has prepared for us a feast in His Word. Every cult mixes a little truth in with their heretical teachings. It's like the old "bait and switch" advertising scam. Or it is like what Eve said in Genesis 3. When tempted, Eve said, "But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die" (Ge 3:3). God did not say anything about not "touching" the fruit of the tree. He did NOT say "neither shall ye touch it." What God said was, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Ge 2:17). There was some truth in what Eve said -- "Ye shall not eat of it." But then in an attempt to sneak it in under the radar, she said, "Neither shall ye touch it." EdB, you've been doing a commendable job of defending the truth. Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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218 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94271 | ||
6. COVENANT OF CONVENIENCE: The Teachings of Kenneth Copeland - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Copeland's view deflates the biblical concept of God in numerous other ways. He parallels God's actions with those of Satan. In effect he makes man to be the dominant party over God..." - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Note: Numbers in the text are footnote numbers. To read the footnotes providing reference sources for this article, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm)] 'According to Copeland, "God had no avenue of lasting faith or moving in the earth. He had to have covenant with somebody....He had to be invited in, in other words, or He couldn't come."39 In fact, "the reason that He's making covenant is to get into the earth."40 "God is on the outside looking in," says Copeland. "In order to have any say-so in the earth, He's gonna have to be in agreement with a man here."41 '"Since man was the key figure in the Fall," Copeland argues, "man had to be the key figure in the redemption, so God approached a man named Abram."42 An agreement was struck between God and Abram that "gave God access to the earth."43 God, in turn, "promised to care for Abraham and his descendants in every way - spiritually, physically, financially, socially."44 Commenting on the deal, Copeland writes that God "re-enacted with Abram what Satan had done with Adam, except that God did not sneak in and use deception...and Abram bought it."45 'As his comments indicate, Copeland views divine covenants no differently from business contracts.46 They are benefit-oriented, not relationship-oriented. They are formed by mutual agreement (for mutual benefit) through negotiation, as opposed to being initiated by the stronger party offering non-negotiable help (not of necessity but of grace) - which is the traditional Christian understanding of God's covenants. They focus on the fulfillment of certain terms (performance) rather than personal loyalty. Copeland himself states that "the Word of the living God is a contract."47 'Copeland's view deflates the biblical concept of God in numerous other ways. He parallels God's actions with those of Satan. In effect he makes man to be the dominant party over God - even claiming that Abraham could have told God to "bug off" when God offered him a "proposition."48 And he seemingly attributes the ultimate sacredness of divine covenants not to the figure who stands behind them (viz. God), but to the fact that they are composed of words: "Words are the most sacred things....This is a word planet...governed by words...created by words....Words cause it to function...cause life...cause death....Words go on forever....Words are holy."49 'Copeland maintains that God "used His right that Abraham had given Him"50 to provide a way for Jesus to enter the earth. Abraham gave God what He needed: "the chance to use his [Abraham's] mouth, because what God was after was a vehicle in the earth that was a man to get His Word in there."51 ____________________ To read more, including extensive footnotes, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm) |
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219 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94241 | ||
Repost of ID# 89213 by Hank "We need to be careful of what we say about our brothers and sisters, we will be judged for it." --from your post No. 89181. Tim, where does Scripture say that Christians will be judged for reproving and rebuking false teaching and false teachers? Just how "careful" were Paul and other apostles about soft-peddling error and corruption in the church? For that matter, how compromising was Jesus in dealing with false teachers? Have you read anything about the vigor and forcefulness with which Charles H. Spurgeon opposed modernism and the apostasy that it brought to the Baptist Union of England in his day? No, Tim, Christians who love the faith once and for all delivered to the saints are not to be careful lest they offend. They are not to be spineless, namby-pamby, weak, apathetic, and ineffectual, craven and ignorant little wimps hiding in the shadows, ashamed of the gospel of Christ, bent on condoning error and deception. They try to rationalize their hypocrisy by calling it Christian charity and tolerance. The seminal cause of many church groups floundering today in man-centered theology can be traced to the failure of professing Christians to stand up for orthodox teaching and practice. The corrupting interlopers had free play simply because there was no one who had the guts to oppose them and put an end to their ungodly secularism and socinianism. When man began to introduce theological concepts that robbed God of his sovereignty and placed man in control of his own destiny, much of biblical Christianity began a slow, steady disintegration into a devilish mixture of cults, false teaching and heresy. Much has been said on this forum about the so-called Word of Faith movement, one characteristic of which that is widely advertised by its practitioners is expressed in the silly slogan, "Name it and claim it." Name the blessing or whatever that God "owes" us and claim it. Since when has God ever empowered man to put Him in the dock and force Him to do anything? This is Heresy with a capital H. What is sad is that disciples of the false teachers are not bashful to come forth to condemn orthodox evangelicals, frequently tagging them as practicing legalism because they adhere to sola scriptura and thus don't look for any special favors from God such as a private and extra-biblical sign or special revelation . . . --Hank |
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220 | A FALSE TEACHING? Yes / No | Matt 8:5 | Radioman2 | 94221 | ||
Jesus' "little, wormy spirit" -- Kenneth Copeland 'The situation seemed hopeless, as Jesus' "emaciated, poured out, little, wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing; and the devil thinks he's got Him destroyed."73 'However, Copeland explains that "Satan fell into the trap. He took Him [Jesus] into hell illegally. He carried Him in there [when] He did not sin."74 'God found the opening He needed: "That Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life....Jesus was born again - the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him - and He whipped the devil in his own backyard."75' ____________________ 73 Kenneth Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 21 April 1991. 74 Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2. 75 Copeland, "The Price of It All," 4-6. --Radioman2 |
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