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3221 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8632 | ||
Good observation, Ray! The NKJV renders 1 Thess. 2:7 as, "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way." Now lets compare this verse with other Bible Versions.. The Greek does not have any reference at all to Diety here.. The KJV, Douay-Rheims, Amplified, NAB, NAS, NAS95, NIV, NRSV, ASV (1901), and RSV all render the pronoun in this verse as "he".. So the NKJV is unique in that it alone ascribes Diety to the one who restrains, or 'restrainer'. I for one, am not entirely confortable with this fact, coming from the NKJV, since this is adding interpretation into the text where it is not present in the original Greek. I believe that the NKJV translators should have rendered this as 'he' as the other translations have, since the Greek does not reference the Diety in any way, shape, or form in this passage. However, I still agree with you and Tim Moran that the 'Restrainer' in 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 is the Holy Spirit, even though He is not directly referred to. So even though I may agree with the NKJV translators on Who this passage is referring to, I disagree with their translation of this passage that is based upon that presupposition, which to me is almost like a violation in translation. Blessings! Nolan |
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3222 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8641 | ||
Dear Ray, You enter upon some interesting ground here, assuming that you agree (and we both do) that the 'Restrainer' is in fact, the Holy Spirit in this verse. :) You said, "Do you not remember that while I was with you, I was telling you these things? And you know the One who restrains him now, for in His time He will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; there is only One who now restrains until it is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay..." The things that I might add or change here are the use of "His" in 'in His time' and "He" in 'He will be revealed.' According to your subject of this sentence, 'the One' is the Holy Spirit. However, if I interpret your sentence correctly, "One" is doing the 'restraining', which is your verb. If this is correct, then 'His' and 'He' should be referring to the 'lawless one' instead of the Holy Spirit since it is the lawless one who will be revealed and is being restrained right now by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit ends up 'stepping aside'.. :) Also, if you are referring to Diety by capitalizing 'One' in the 2nd part of the 3rd sentence, then you should either change the word 'it' to 'It' or 'He', since it is also referring back to 'One' which is your subject in this sentence.. So here are my proposed changes: "Do you not remember that while I was with you, I was telling you these things? And you know the One who restrains him now, for in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; there is only One who now restrains until He is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay..." Keep up the good work Ray! Blessings, Nolan |
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3223 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8659 | ||
Greetings Ray! Yes, I believe that the reason that the Holy Spirit is not being revealed here and the 'man of lawlessness' is, is simply because the Holy Spirit is what is being revealed today, now. And the 'revelation' of the Holy Spirit began at Pentecost in Acts 2.. Therefore, the Holy Spirit isn't the one who is being revealed here, but it is the 'man of lawlessness'. The Holy Spirit must 'step aside' so that the 'man of lawlessness' could be revealed. Blessings, Nolan |
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3224 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8660 | ||
Dear Ray, I agree with Tim on the use of the word "it" in what he wrote. That is, if you believe that the 'restrainer' is the Holy Spirit. :) Have a blessed day! Nolan |
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3225 | chapter6 opening the seals | 2 Thess 2:7 | Makarios | 8541 | ||
Also, Nelson's NKJV Study Bible states, "He who now restrains: There was a good reason why the man of sin had not been revealed. The present restrainer, probably the Spirit of God, had to be taken out of the world. God has restrained sin in the world through the power of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit works directly through the Bible, godly people, and His holy angels to advance God's kingdom and restrain evil. Some have interpreted 'taken out of the way' in this verse as a reference to the Rapture, for the church cannot exist without the Spirit's presence. Thus the removal of the church through the Rapture will be in effect the removal of all restraint on the power of sin in this world. There are a variety of other interpretations for this verse and the identity of the restrainer. The Roman state, the emperor of Rome, Paul's missionary work, the Jewish state, or the principle of law and government embodied in the state have all been proposed as the restrainer of lawlessness." The MacArthur Study Bible states, "'taken out of the way.' This refers not to spatial removal (therefore it could not be the rapture of the church) but rather "a stepping aside." The idea is "out of the way," not gone (cf. Col. 2:14 where our sins are taken out of the way as a barrier to God). This restraint will be in place until the Antichrist is revealed, at the midpoint of the Tribulation, leaving him 42 months to reign (Dan. 7:25; Rev. 13:5)." |
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3226 | Eccumenicalism is a deluding influence. | 2 Thess 2:11 | Makarios | 36280 | ||
One excellent book with the Ecumenical movement as its subject is "Protestants and Catholics: Do They Now Agree?" by John Ankerberg and John Weldon. I recommend it to all who would like to know more about the differences between Catholics and Protestants and for information on the Ecumenical movement. | ||||||
3227 | Not a Hypothetical Savior | 2 Thess 2:13 | Makarios | 193946 | ||
Greetings Doc, So very true is that assessment by Dr. James White in light of how people forget the implied responsibility of "faith" on the part of man in order to accept salvation. I love this verse that you pointed out, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, since all three persons of the Trinity are mentioned. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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3228 | Women teaching or in authority | 1 Timothy | Makarios | 21624 | ||
Greetings Norrie! Excellent question: Where in the Bible does it say that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute? And the answer is: Nowhere!! :) The only "background" that we have about Mary Magdalene (based on the Bible) is that she was from Magdala and that Jesus had driven seven demons from her (Mark 16:9, Luke 8:2). Mary Magdalene should not be confused with the sinful woman of Luke 7, the sinful woman of John 8, or Mary of Bethany in John 11:1. There is absolutely no Scriptural support for this "tradition" that says that Mary Magdalene was an adulteress or prostitute. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3229 | Women teaching or in authority | 1 Timothy | Makarios | 21629 | ||
Thank you for clearing that up a little, Serenetime! I appreciate your efforts on continuing to dispel some misunderstandings that are prevalent at this point amongst some Forum members.. The woman in John 8 is indeed an adulteress. However, there is nothing in Scripture that even remotely suggests that Mary Magdalene was this woman in John 8 or the woman in Luke 7 or even the woman in John 11. The only things that we know about Mary Magdalene are found in Mark 16 and Luke 8, and of course, in all of the Resurrection accounts. But there is nothing in Scripture that can give support to the "traditional" view of Mary Magdalene- that she was either an adulteress or a prostitute. Is it necessary that we must label one of these women as Mary Magdalene just to suit our own limited understandings of Scripture? To make such an association is false, misleading, and speculative; not to mention putting Mary Magdalene in a "dishonorable" light, which should not be done amongst Christians since we are to speak only a good report about each other. Thank you Serenetime. I am not challenging YOU here, but I'm going against this "tradition" that casts Mary Magdalene as a prostitute or adulteress since either accusation cannot be proven through Scripture. Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |
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3230 | Women teaching or in authority | 1 Timothy | Makarios | 21653 | ||
Thank you Debbie! What you said was very true: the redeeming power of Jesus Christ transforms whoever or whatever you were beforehand into someone entirely new!! And regardless of what sins that Mary Magdalene may have committed while under the influence of seven demons (Mark 16, Luke 8), we do know that she alone was singled out as the first one who witnessed the Lord's Resurrection! What a glorious honor for a woman who was previously afflicted by seven demons! Our Lord can use anyone and change anyone and thank you for making that crystal clear, Debbie! Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3231 | Col 1:24 What is he saying exactly? | 1 Timothy | Makarios | 26111 | ||
Another excellent answer Jesusman! Zondervan's NASB Study Bible supports what you have written.. "..filling up what is lacking. Does not mean that there was a deficiency in the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Rather, it means that Paul suffered afflictions because he was preaching the good news of Christ's atonement. Christ suffered on the cross to atone for sin, and Paul filled up Christ's afflictions by experiencing the added sufferings necessary to carry this good news to a lost world." - Nolan |
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3232 | Col 1:24 What is he saying exactly? | 1 Timothy | Makarios | 26112 | ||
Greetings Steve! Good answer! The Ryrie Expanded Edition Study Bible supports your answer here.. "1:24 Because of the union of believers with Christ, Paul's sufferings for the sake of the church can be called Christ's afflictions as well." - Nolan |
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3233 | Mariology undermines Christology | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26157 | ||
Dear Kalos, I most heartily agree! Almost like preaching a different Gospel.. Isn't it funny: should we really deny our Savior the praise He deserves by misplacing that praise on Mary? If Mary were here, there is no doubt in my mind that she would have a reaction like that of the angel in Revelation, who said, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God." (Rev. 22:9) Jesus is our only Advocate before the Father. Grace to you and congratulations on another fine post! Nolan |
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3234 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26434 | ||
Greetings Lisa! Thank you for the information on Guadalupe, even though I feel that it has little, if anything, to do with Mary. John 2:1-10 in no way suggests that we should somehow bring our prayers to Mary. Nowhere in the Bible is there a Scripture that suggests that Mary is also in intercession for the saints like Jesus, who is our only Advocate (1 John 2:1). Only He can intercede for us, since He was the only one who was without sin. To preach that another person was without sin is to defy 2 Cor. 5:21. Mary does not have the characteristics of God spoken of in 1 Tim. 6:16, and to worship her or give her any exaltation whatsoever beyond that of Luke 1:42-45 is equivalent to idolatry. There is nothing in Scripture that says that Mary was more than just a woman disciple, like yourself. In fact, I was alittle astonished in John 2:4 (upon reading it for the first time) that Jesus adressed his mother as "Woman".. You would think that if Mary were so exalted, that He would have given her alittle more respect here in this verse. And He even corrects her! Also, did not Simeon say to Mary that "a sword will pierce your own soul too"? (Luke 2:35) Even Mary was in need of Jesus as her own Savior, even though God used Mary as the "vessel" in which to deliver Jesus to earth. Mary would learn the truth about Jesus, and she would come to know Him as Lord and Savior, not just as her son. Mary was only human and she died a human death. However, she stood at the foot of the cross not only as a weeping mother, but also as a fervent disciple in anguish! For Mary knew the truth about Jesus all along- that He was in fact immaculately conceived (Isaiah 7:14), even though there were times where she treated Jesus just as a human boy (Luke 2:48). She came to understand that He was very special, and said, "Do whatever he tells you." (John 2:5) And even when Jesus was involved in his ministry, Mary still had not fully grasped Jesus' purpose! "Who are my mother and my brothers?" (Mark 3:31-35) "Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and mother." And Jesus' "earthly" immediate family, including Mary, said: "When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind." (Mark 3:21)! If Mary was more than just a human, woman disciple, wouldn't she have known better than to allege that He was out of His mind? This further lends support to the fact that Mary should NOT be worshipped, but she is to respected in the same way that the "heroes" are to be respected (Hebrews 11) and nothing more. Mary was only a woman disciple and that is it. Any other interpretation is not based upon the Bible itself and what it teaches. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3235 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26435 | ||
Greetings Lisa, I am thankful that Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity! That is at least a start in understanding some of our disagreements. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3236 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26444 | ||
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3237 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26442 | ||
Thats Ok Lisa! There isn't a Catholic in the entire world who can convince me about Mary.. Blessings to you, Nolan |
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3238 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26605 | ||
Say what? Please cite chapter and verse please! - Nolan |
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3239 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26607 | ||
SRN, I do not believe that we should pray to Mary. Do you? - Nolan |
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3240 | Why should we pray to Mary? | 1 Tim 2:5 | Makarios | 26622 | ||
Joe, You've done an exceptional job in making sure that our historical figures and times are correct on this Forum, starting with your posts way back on the Reformation, and then Martin Luther and now Mexico. Keep up the good work! Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |
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