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181 | Food before the Fall | Gen 1:29 | Lionstrong | 25799 | ||
Hi Ed, Thanks for your thoughts. I think the question is which passages are figurative, this one or the ones about the marriage supper. I choose the marriage supper as figurative. The church is literally not one female person whom the Lord marries. Literal marriage implies the sexual union of the couple, and in the age to come we will be like the angels, Jesus said, not given in marriage. So the whole concept of marriage between Christ and his "bride" and its associated trappings (the supper) is an analogy or a figure. Also the passage in 1 Cor. is not written in a figurative or analogical style. So I take the 1 Cor. passage as literal, and that in our new resurrection bodies God will do away with stomachs or the need for food. Personally, instead of food, I look forward to be able to run and not get tired, and walk and not become weary. :) Is 40:31 And I'd also say don't worry about missing the food. There'll be plenty of other things to enjoy... besides the Lord himself! Ps 16:11 You will make known to me the path of life; In Your presence is fullness of joy; In Your right hand there are pleasures forever. Peace, Lionstrong, a.k.a. LooseCannon |
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182 | Extra! Extra! | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 6439 | ||
Whenever the news media finds an event that they feel worthy of reporting, they try to answer as many editorial questions as they can about that event. If they consider the event really big, then there follows editorials and possibly other reports of similar events. I look at commentaries on the Bible that way, at least the commentaries on the historical narratives in the Bible. Creation is the first great event of the history of the world. Well, it IS the FIRST event of the history of the world, and it is great, and there would be more questions asked of this event than I could ever imagine. Some questions would be good, others foolish, some genuine, others skeptical, hostile or dubious. The editorial questions begin with what, how, where, when, who, and why. Some of these questions are answered, at least partly, in the narrative so far. Answers to other questions will have to wait until later on in the historical unfolding of this inspired chronical. I can see the headline: "God Creates Universe in Six Days!" "Five days ago the Lord God began a six day project that would culminate with the creation of a creature made in His own image - Man." The reporter would then go on unfold the events of each day. He might end his report with, "It is not yet know why the Lord God created the heavens and the earth and all their hosts, and put Man in charge of the earth, but It will be interesting to see how Man will exercise his dominion." |
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183 | Extra! Extra! | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 6588 | ||
Editorial Questions: WHAT was created? A. The heavens and the earth? Follow-up question: In light of the earth's relative microscopic size in the vastness of the universe why is the earth even mentioned? A. Earth was the Creator's focus of attention. In terms of the importance He places on the earth, the rest of the universe was created for the earth. If this were a play, earth would be center stage. One more follow-up question: If the universe is just a, so to speak, backdrop for the earth, would that not imply that there's no life on other worlds? A. The centrality of the earth is a strong argument for no life on other worlds, but it does not necessarily imply such. Other considerations have to come into play to validly support that position. What, if any, is the significance of the order of creation? A. The order of creation is partly based on necessity, and partly on the value or importance of what was created. Man was the most important thing created and therefore was created last as the crown of God's creation, but space and earth were necessarily created first to give this corporeal being a place to live. What was here before the begining? A. Space and time began with the creation. So, strickly speaking there was no "before" in the sense of sequence of moments, but "before" the creation there was no space or time; there was only the Triune God. Follow-up question: If there was no space or time, where did God create the heavens and the earth? A. in Him we live and move and exist, |
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184 | Extra! Extra! | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 6597 | ||
No real point. It's just a meditation. | ||||||
185 | Creation: Written as Prose or Poetry? | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 30725 | ||
I see the repetitions, Emmaus, but I see it as prosaic repetitions, not poetic. You're Catholic (Roman Catholic?). So, I probably won't know your conservative authors who view Gen 1 as poetic, but who are they? Peace, Lionstrong |
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186 | Creation: Written as Prose or Poetry? | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 30727 | ||
Hello Jethro, I'm sorry Jethro, but your post does not answer my question. What is question that you are answering? Peace, Lionstrong |
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187 | Creation: Written as Prose or Poetry? | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 30808 | ||
Hello Emmaus Moses was a top notch writer! Gen 1 is true history, written in non-figurative prose language, yet, to the credit of Moses and the One who inspired him, it is very well and powerfully written. That's how I see it, Emmaus. Thank you for you thorough response. Peace, Lionstrong |
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188 | Extra! Extra! | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 58498 | ||
Hello Dasev, It (the Gap theory) is not generally accepted. It is a pretty recent turn of the century (last century) error. Look up the history of this doctrine on the Institure for Creation Research website (www.icr.org), and in their book, The Genesis Flood. For Biblical proof against the Gap error, check out Exodus 20:11 and underscore the words "heavens" (plural) and "all." Do a search and find my posts on the Gap theory, and please make your rejoinders there. I think a discussion of the Gap error is more appropriate under those threads, not here. Nonetheless, thanks for your interest. Peace, |
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189 | Chapter Break | Gen 2:4 | Lionstrong | 20663 | ||
A Note: This verse would have been a better verse at which to start chapter two. At this point Moses backs up and then goes forward. He backs up and fills in some the details of the creation week and then goes forward with this historical narrative to tell what happened after the seventh day of rest. Peace, Lionstrong |
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190 | Chapter Break | Gen 2:4 | Lionstrong | 20946 | ||
You're right, Hank, It does not. It's just a thought (a thought. Did you hear that, Sir Pent?!) that went through my mind as I read it. I would have ended the chapter of creation week with a whole week, with God resting on and blessing the seventh day. And the wording of v. 5 is a good beginning for a new chapter, "Now this is the account of..." Peace, Lionstrong |
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191 | Created and Placed | Gen 2:8 | Lionstrong | 18879 | ||
Created and Placed: A Meditation on Gen 2:7,8 A while back it was thought that I was making a circus of the forum when I noted that God first MADE and then MOVED the stars (Gen 1:16,17). Well, here's another instance of God doing the same with man, creating then placing. What if the space is only a few feet instead of a few light years? What is space to the Omnipresent? Can't he as easily move one as the other, and do it instantaneously? Peace, Lionstrong |
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192 | Created and Placed | Gen 2:8 | Lionstrong | 19289 | ||
Dear Radioman, Is the tone of your remarks hostile? Peace, Lionstrong |
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193 | Adams Occupation | Gen 2:15 | Lionstrong | 17065 | ||
A Meditation. ......¶¶Adam was not a farmer but a gardener/grounds keeper. Is this why I like to putter in the yard? ........ Lionstrong |
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194 | Adams Occupation | Gen 2:15 | Lionstrong | 17431 | ||
Along with homemaker Lionstrong |
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195 | Adam and Eve, eternal security? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31361 | ||
Hi Emmaus, No, I think Adam and Eve never wondered if they would lose their fellowship of God. Why would our first parents ever even think such a question? What would give them cause? Nothing would, nothing in their environment nor experience. Pride is sin. The first sin of the head of our race was not pride but eating the forbidden fruit. (Gen 3:17) Through ONE transgression, not two, condemnation fell on all men (Rom 5:16, 18) The sin of pride does not apply to the sin of head of our race. Peace, Lionstrong |
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196 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31796 | ||
Hi Emmaus, Did you check out my references? Qualify for grace: Mark 2:17 And hearing this, Jesus *said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Adam and Eve did not need grace, did not "qualify.") Rom 11:32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. (Now we all need grace. Prior to God's shutting up all in disobedience, mercy/grace was not needed.) John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. (Also Mark 2:17. By God's grace we see our need of grace. We are blind and sick.) Luke 19:10 "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." 1 Tim 1:15 It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all. (Christ does not save the un-lost righteous.) Peace, Lionstrong |
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197 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31802 | ||
Thanks, Debbie, That was exactly my point. The most commonly used meaning of grace in Scripture always has to do with our need of it, because of our being dead in trespasses and sin. And this grace is never extended without mercy. We, the fallen children of Adam and Eve, need both! They, before they fell, needed niether! Eph 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, Eph 2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Eph 2:3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), Eph 2:6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Eph 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Peace, Lionstrong |
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198 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 32348 | ||
Our First parents, Emmaus were created holy. They were not created "in a state of grace." Holy is what they were, not something given to them after they were created. Again, they were not given holiness by unmeritted favor; they were made in the image of God and therefore were holy being created as such. We are made holy by the grace of God, AFTER we lost that holiness through Adam's fall. I understand your point, Emmaus. As Protestants, we don't apply that expression to our pre-fall parents. Peace, Lionstrong |
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199 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 32422 | ||
Hi Emmaus, You ask, "If Adam and Eve had that grace and lost it through free will, how can we say that we can not loose it in the same manner by a free will rejection just as they did?" Well, first, they never had that grace. And second, Whomever God is powerful enough to save by his grace, He's powerful enough to KEEP saved by his grace, because grace does not depend on him to who it is given; but on Him who gives it. You, write, "Unless Jesus has destroyed our free will in the restoration of grace." First, since grace was not lost it cannot be restored. Second, in the Fall we lost our freedom to chose good. (Gen 6:5 "Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Has man become any better since then? (See Rom 3: 10-18 for the answer.) Because believers are in a state of grace, they now are free again to CHOSE good, although it takes the power of the Holy Spirit for us to DO good: Gal 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. Gal 5:17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. You say, "I still say your version is tanatmount to saying we have to sin in order to merit sanctifying grace and so is a wierd type of works righteousness." You say this, Emmaus, because I say grace is for the needy only. Hmm, sounds very similar to how Paul was slandered for preaching grace. Be careful, Emmaus! Rom 3:8 And why not say (as we are slanderously reported and as some claim that we say), "Let us do evil that good may come"? Their condemnation is just. (You've modified your original tern by adding the adjective "sanctifying." But, no matter...) I STILL SAY that God's grace (sanctifying or otherwise) is not for those who don't need it, but for sinners alone. In fact, "...where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Rom 5:20,21) "a wierd type of works righteousness," you say? It may be weird in your mind, Emmaus my friend, and maybe you don't know this "weird type of works righteousness," but it's called the righteousness of God (2 Cor 5:21) and it's given by God's grace alone through faith alone in Christ Jesus alone. He is the one who did all of the WORK to earn this righteousness for all his believing people, for they were "dead in [their] trespasses and sins, Eph 2:2 in which [they] formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Eph 2:3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), Peace, Lionstrong |
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200 | Adam and Eve, eternal security? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 149904 | ||
Wow, Madog how did you find this old thread?! Anyway, God did not curse the ground until AFTER the fall, not before. (Gen 3:17) But what's the biblical proof for your first premise that the dust is sin? |
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