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341 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Lionstrong | 21568 | ||
Dear Ed, While in many issues where contradictory views are held, I suppose, both views CAN be false even though it is logically IM-possible for both to be true. But in the case of the contradictory views held by Reformed and Arminian believers, while it’s true that they cannot both be true, it is also true that they CANNOT both be false either. ...... The Bible teaches that God has planned for certain things to come to pass, most importantly the death of Christ for the sins of his people. In this case of God’s sovereign plan Arminian and Calvinist believers CAN’T both be wrong. For them both to be wrong would mean that NOTHING happens according to the plan of God, Instead of the Arminian “some” and the Calvinist “all,” we would live in a world of total chaotic chance, if both views were false. ......... Sorry I was so long in answering your post. Peace, Lionstrong, a.k.a. LooseCannon | ||||||
342 | Why do people lose interest and leave? | Bible general Archive 1 | Lionstrong | 21565 | ||
Didn't have you in mind, dear Sir Pent, but be careful. Your attempt to help may result, as some have suggested, in a loss of freedom in the forum. Peace, Lionstrong, a.k.a. LooseCannon | ||||||
343 | Can Animals Think? | Ps 32:9 | Lionstrong | 21445 | ||
So what is your answer to Q. 2), dear Prayon: Does no understanding apply to horse and mule only? And, are you saying that this verse has absolutely nothing to do with animals (horse and mule at least) having no understanding? Peace, a.k.a. LooseCannon |
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344 | God repented | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 21137 | ||
I'm sorry for your limited view of God's Word, Hank. ......... Jesus is Lord of all. I view any subject upon which the Bible touches as legitimate for discussion on the Forum. The study of animals is not the exclusive domain of unbelievers. God has revealed something about them upon which a believer can build his study of them. Granted the subject is trivial compared to God, his Son and man, but I'm thankful that God's word says so much about the world in which we live. ........ I welcome disagreement, but not mocking. ....... Peace, Lionstrong | ||||||
345 | God repented | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 21105 | ||
I’d rather write you personally, Hank, but you haven't posted an e-mail address. I'm sorry that my cannon balls offend you, but it's not your forum. I don't understand. If you are not interested in a topic, why comment on it at all? If I've committed no sin, but simply wrote something that you, for whatever reason, feel should not be discussed on the forum, why do you bother to cut it off. It's not your forum. If I'm not sinning in something I post, why won't you give me the freedom to post it unherassed? I simply do not understand this possessiveness you have of the forum. It's not your forum. Peace, Lionstrong |
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346 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 21101 | ||
Gen 22:2 He said, "Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you." Dear Tim, Did God intend for Abraham to sacrifice his son? Or did he really intend for him to sacrifice his son, but changed his mind when he saw that Abraham was really going to do it? And I think I've already answered your questions, but you are reading Jonah out of context. The context of Jonah is the rest of the Bible, which teaches that God does not change his mind. So, Jonah's proclamation read in context is a warning, not God's intention. Peace, Lionstrong |
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347 | God repented | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 21070 | ||
Now don't blow a gasket Hank, But it seems that when you're tired of a topic, you think everyone else is too. I've enjoyed reading the thread, and evidently there's still a lot of interest in this subject. So as long as the Lockman servers can take it, let the show go on! Peace, Lionstrong |
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348 | Animal Intelligence Isn't Rational | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 21061 | ||
Intelligence? Yes. Rationallity? No, dear Sir Pent. Human communication is the transference and reception of thought from one to another. Since animals do not think, no thoughts are transferred, and no communication takes place. Further, regarding Mat. 10:16, and to strengthen to point that Jesus was speaking anthropopathically about animals, not only are serpents not shrewd, but doves are not innocent. In order to be innocent one must be a moral agent. Animals are amoral creatures. God does not judge them for sinning, because they CANNOT sin. In order to sin, one must be a moral agent. In order to be a moral agent, one must understand moral commands. In order to understand moral commands, one must understand the thoughts communicated in the moral commands. In order to understand thoughts, one must be rational. Therefore, doves are not innocent because doves (and all animals) are not rational. Peace, Lionstrong |
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349 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20967 | ||
What God meant, Brother Tim, Is for Nivevah to repent. Again, Jonah 3:4 is the content of what God told Jonah to SAY. God did not tell Jonah what he was going to DO. Jon 3:2 "Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you." Do you see? The proclamation was not a lie, it was a warning stated in the form of a coming event. Although it’s not recorded in the first chapter, apparently God had told Jonah what to say at that time also. The message was the same: Ninevah will be destroyed. But why do you think he ran? Jon 4:2 He prayed to the LORD and said, "Please LORD, was not this what I said while I was still in my own country? Therefore in order to forestall this I fled to Tarshish, for I knew that You are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, and one who relents concerning calamity. 4:3 "Therefore now, O LORD, please take my life from me, for death is better to me than life." Jonah suspected that the plan of God was not of judgement but of mercy, that his proclamation was not a message of prophecy but of warning. So he ran. Yes, something did indeed change. But it wasn’t God’s mind. It was the hearts of the Ninevites, changed by the merciful almighty power of God at the preaching of Jonah! Now, I’m surprised that you asked my about the immutability of God’s actions. It’s a no brainer. If God doesn’t change his mind, then he doesn’t change his mind about what he’s going to do. Like Jonah, the Reformed preacher of the Gospel (to bring the discussion back to the topic of this thread) has confidence in the mercy of God. He knows that God has ordained a means to his ends, and the means to faith (of which Christ alone is the author) is the proclamation of the Good News. This Good News starts off with the bad news, “the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,” not, “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.” Peace, Lionstrong |
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350 | Chapter Break | Gen 2:4 | Lionstrong | 20946 | ||
You're right, Hank, It does not. It's just a thought (a thought. Did you hear that, Sir Pent?!) that went through my mind as I read it. I would have ended the chapter of creation week with a whole week, with God resting on and blessing the seventh day. And the wording of v. 5 is a good beginning for a new chapter, "Now this is the account of..." Peace, Lionstrong |
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351 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20944 | ||
Num 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? Mal 3:6 "For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. Dear Tim, can you say “anthropopathism?” God is immutable. So whenever you read Scripture where it says God changed his mind, or repented or relented it is an (now say it with me) anthropopathism. Re-read my post, dear Tim. The focus is not as you say on whether or not Jonah knew that Ninevah would repent. The focus was on Jonah’s SUSPECION of God’s plan to grant repentance to Ninevah. Your misreading my post demonstrates, maybe, the Arminian tendency to make God’s plans dependent on man’s will. The whole book is predicated on the plan of God to grant repentance to the Ninevites. Jonah understood that his proclamation might have the unspoken “if” clause. That’s why he didn’t want to go! But he wasn't told to preach the “if” clause. I would even hazard to suggest that if God had told Jonah to include the if clause or if he told Jonah his plan to grant them repentance, Jonah’s abhorrence of Ninevah would have caused him to accept death from the hand of God rather than go. Jonah was not afraid of the sting of death, evidenced by his willingness to die in order to save the ship. So, God did not reveal his intent to Jonah, and Jonah went with the hope that his message had no hidden “if” clause. Peace, Lionstrong |
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352 | Animal Intelligence Isn't Rational | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 20937 | ||
James 3:7 For every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles and creatures of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by the human race. Yes, I was aware of Koko and Pavlov, Sir Pent: Koko's amazing display of gorilla intelligence does not, however, prove that she has rational thought processes. It is an attestation to her trainers' skill and patience. But Koko will never sign (pun intended) her memoirs at the end of her life. If fact, not being rational, she'll have no appreciation for her personal history or of her coming death. Animals, while they have an instinctive terror of being hurt, have no fear of death or non-being. This is a quality which only rational creatures have (Matt 8:29 And they cried out, saying, "What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?") I read your post under my answer to Charis. No, you do not see. My evangelist friend was using “personal” in the sense that we’ve been using rational. Again, Sir Pent, we DO disagree. It is not a problem of terminology. And one last point: Jesus calling the serpent shrewd (Mat. 10:16) is an anthropopathism, which is what animal lovers do all the time! I’ve enjoyed our exchange, but I think we’ve reached an impasse. Maybe when I can make my case stronger (or yours weaker!) we’ll come back to this. Peace, Lionstrong |
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353 | Animal Intelligence Isn't Rational | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 20873 | ||
2 Tim 2:14 Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers. Thanks Charis, Actually, I thought I was doing pretty well about not discussing the meaning of words... this time! Any synonym for rational would have done. So my argument has continued to be that animals are not (fill in the blank). This is the sole possession of God, angels and men. An evangelist (now with the Lord) used a graph that I thought was helpful. He drew a horizontal line, and above the line he wrote God. Below the line he wrote creation. He said that below the line we are as much a creature as the rocks. This was the line of creation. Then He drew another line, the line of the personal. Now, what we have above the line is God, men and angels, and below the line everything else. In terms of preaching the Gospel to men of today’s culture, they must understand that their identity is upward not downward. The dignity and greatness of man is that he is made in the image of God. And the image of God is rationality or reason, discursive knowledge or whatever words you want to use to describe real thought. This, animals do not possess. Peace, Lionstrong |
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354 | Ninevah did. | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20840 | ||
Jon 4:2 He prayed to the LORD and said, "Please LORD, was not this what I said while I was still in my own country? Therefore in order to forestall this I fled to Tarshish, for I knew that You are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, and one who relents concerning calamity. Dear Tim, Thanks for your response. God told Jonah WHAT to proclaim. God did not tell him THAT he was going to give the Ninevites repentance at the preaching of this proclamation. However, Jonah had a strong suspicion that God was, knowing the merciful character of God. So, Jonah, being the good Calvinist, knew that God accomplished his end by means of the means. So knowing the means by which faith comes is by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ, Jonah tried to thwart the suspected purpose of God by removing himself as the means by which the Ninevites would hear. So, no, God did not lie about his intentions, because he never revealed them to Jonah. So, God did not change his plan to give the Ninevites repentance, which Jonah had rightly suspected was God’s plan all along. The same is true in Reformed preaching of the Gospel. Not knowing the “wonderful” plan God may have for our neighbor’s life, we do not tell them what we don’t know, but in love we do warn them of the wrath to come and where they can find refuge. If God, who has mercy upon whom he will have mercy, has mercy on our neighbor, our neighbor by the effective irresistible working of the Holy Spirit will repent and find shelter in Jesus. Peace, Lionstrong |
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355 | Reformed and Arminian Gospel Preaching | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20780 | ||
Dear Hank, What is unbiblical about this statement from a reformed perspective? I take it that you are not reformed. So, if you do understand that we teach that some are foreordained to suffer God's just wrath for their sins, you would not agree that such is the biblical case. ...... And I'm not asking you to agree, Hank. But the reformed believer in Christ, not knowing who the elect are, cannot in all honesty tell his neighbor that he knows that God has a wonderful plan for his life. You should at least understand that position, Hank, even if you don't agree. The reformed believer in Christ, out of obedience and love for God and his neighbor, will warn his neighbor of the wrath to come, and tell him is only refuge from the coming storm is in the Cleft of the rock. If he would but take shelter there, he will be saved. The reformed believer, out of obedience and love for God and neighbor, will then pray the Holy Spirit to replace his neighbor's a heart of stone with a heart of flesh (repentance) and thereby make him willing and able to receive the Lord (faith) in whom alone there is forgiveness, righteousness and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, adoption, and eternal life. Again, I'm not asking you to agree, Hank, but don't you understand? ....... Peace, Lionstrong |
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356 | The Serpent's Class | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 20779 | ||
Phil 2:5 Have this attitude (mind, KJV) in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, ........Dear Sir Pent, ........... Even as a child I've been intrigued with this true historical account. It shaped my view of the world I lived in, as God's word should. When I looked at a snake, I thought of that serpent in the Garden. Then I'd think, in my childish way, "You haven't always been that way. At one time you didn't crawl and lick the dust." ....... Peace, Lionstrong | ||||||
357 | Animal Intelligence Isn't Rational | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 20778 | ||
Prov 17:22 A joyful heart is good medicine, But a broken spirit dries up the bones. ........ Thanks, Hank ......... Lionstrong |
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358 | The Serpent's Class | Gen 3:1 | Lionstrong | 20776 | ||
Phil 2:5 Have this attitude (mind, KJV) in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, ........Dear Sir Pent, ........... Even as a child I've been intrigued with this true historical account. It shaped my view of the world I lived in, as God's word should. When I looked at a snake, I thought of that serpent in the Garden. Then I'd think, in my childish way, "You haven't always been that way. At one time you didn't crawl and lick the dust." ....... Peace, Lionstrong | ||||||
359 | Reformed and Arminian Gospel Preaching | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20775 | ||
Dear Hank, What is unbiblical about this statement from a reformed perspective? I take it that you are not reformed. So, if you do understand that we teach that some are foreordained to suffer God's just wrath for their sins, you would not agree that such is the biblical case. ...... And I'm not asking you to agree, Hank. But the reformed believer in Christ, not knowing who the elect are, cannot in all honesty tell his neighbor that he knows that God has a wonderful plan for his life. You should at least understand that position, Hank, even if you don't agree. The reformed believer in Christ, out of obedience and love for God and his neighbor, will warn his neighbor of the wrath to come, and tell him is only refuge from the coming storm is in the Cleft of the rock. If he would but take shelter there, he will be saved. The reformed believer, out of obedience and love for God and neighbor, will then pray the Holy Spirit to replace his neighbor's a heart of stone with a heart of flesh (repentance) and thereby make him willing and able to receive the Lord (faith) in whom alone there is forgiveness, righteousness and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, adoption, and eternal life. Again, I'm not asking you to agree, Hank, but don't you understand? ....... Peace, Lionstrong |
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360 | Reformed and Arminian Gospel Preaching | Rom 1:18 | Lionstrong | 20769 | ||
Dear Schwartz: Reformed: Christ died for his people only. Therefore the Gospel is not "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." It is "Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand." Peace, Lionstrong |
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