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281 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31802 | ||
Thanks, Debbie, That was exactly my point. The most commonly used meaning of grace in Scripture always has to do with our need of it, because of our being dead in trespasses and sin. And this grace is never extended without mercy. We, the fallen children of Adam and Eve, need both! They, before they fell, needed niether! Eph 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, Eph 2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Eph 2:3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), Eph 2:6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Eph 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. Peace, Lionstrong |
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282 | Adam and Eve, no fall from grace? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31796 | ||
Hi Emmaus, Did you check out my references? Qualify for grace: Mark 2:17 And hearing this, Jesus *said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Adam and Eve did not need grace, did not "qualify.") Rom 11:32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. (Now we all need grace. Prior to God's shutting up all in disobedience, mercy/grace was not needed.) John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. (Also Mark 2:17. By God's grace we see our need of grace. We are blind and sick.) Luke 19:10 "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." 1 Tim 1:15 It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all. (Christ does not save the un-lost righteous.) Peace, Lionstrong |
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283 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Lionstrong | 31706 | ||
Hello Prayer Warrior, Your understanding of the Christian life is clearly a salvation by works and has nothing to do with what Christ did on the cross for his people. The Christian life you describe totally negates the purpose for which Christ came--to save sinners. OK, what we're really talking about, I think, can be expressed in different ways: How ought Christians to deal sin in their life? or, Now that I'm saved, now what? or If I'm not saved by good works, does it matter that I do good works now that I'm saved? The issue that you're dealing with, Warrior, is important, because Christ does not save his people TO sin, but FROM it. (Rom 6) And although we're not saved BY our good works, we're saved FOR good works. (Eph 2:8-10) The verses that you shared are good verses, but maybe... the framework in which you are putting these verses is as if the good life of a believer is not the product of God's grace through faith. I mean you talk about repentance as if it weren't given to us by the grace of God. The Bible says: 2 Tim. 2:25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth... Acts 11:18 And when they heard this, they quieted down, and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life." Warrior, you put a terrible burden on yourself if you think it depends on you to live the Christian life successfully. It depends on God, because, "..it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.(Rom. 9:16) But worse, as I said, it dishonors the work of Christ on the cross. Jude 1:24 ΒΆ Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy, Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. Peace, Lionstrong |
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284 | Did God really walk around the garden? | Gen 18:1 | Lionstrong | 31657 | ||
I THINK we all now understand where you're coming from, BWJ. Uhh, welcome to the Forum. Lionstrong |
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285 | please, two part question, need more | Ezek 3:18 | Lionstrong | 31648 | ||
Hi Prayer Warrior, You wrote, "Once saved always saved is only saved if you keep your walk. No one can take you out of Gods hands but you can, by continuing to sin." How is this a "once saved always saved?" This is a "saved if you keep your walk." If we're saved if we keep our walk, how is this NOT a salvation by works? How is this a salvation by grace alone? Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. The Bible says, 1 Pet 1:5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. John 10:29 "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. Now if someone that God has saved can take himself out of the Father's AND the Son's hands, what does that say about the power of God to protect them "for a salvation ready to revealed at the last time?" In his word, God has given his people much assurance that we need not fear that our own propensity to sin will result in our not making it. He loves his people; he is almighty; he has the power to keep you; and he will. By God's power and grace, his people will persevere in good works till the end. "Saved until we screw up" is neither an expression of "once saved always saved" or "Salvation by grace alone." Concerning repentance: Only a new believer who does not yet realize how sinful he is thinks that he can repent of every sin he's committed since becoming a believer. Nevertheless such a notion of dying with unconfessed or unrepented sin is still a variation on the theme of salvation by our actions (works) rather than salvation by God's grace alone. Peace, Lionstrong |
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286 | Can salvation be lost due to actions? | Ezek 3:18 | Lionstrong | 31631 | ||
Dear Prayer Warrior, Don't you see, then, that what you've written is a salvation by what you do (works), rather than a salvation by what God has done (grace)? Peace, Lionstrong |
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287 | Adam and Eve, eternal security? | Gen 2:16 | Lionstrong | 31361 | ||
Hi Emmaus, No, I think Adam and Eve never wondered if they would lose their fellowship of God. Why would our first parents ever even think such a question? What would give them cause? Nothing would, nothing in their environment nor experience. Pride is sin. The first sin of the head of our race was not pride but eating the forbidden fruit. (Gen 3:17) Through ONE transgression, not two, condemnation fell on all men (Rom 5:16, 18) The sin of pride does not apply to the sin of head of our race. Peace, Lionstrong |
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288 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Lionstrong | 31344 | ||
Hi Tim: The ONLY means God has given to propitiate his just wrath against our sin is the blood of his precious and beloved Son, the Lord Jesus (Act 4:14). Jesus has said himself that no one will come to God by any other means (Jn 14:6). Having said that, God is sovereign and THROUGH CHIRST he will save anyone anyway he wants to, but in Scripture (as I've said already) he has ordained the usual means by which people come to faith, and that is the us, our getting the word out. I challenge anyone to find in God's Word any other way that God brings people to saving faith other than the proclamation of his revealed word (not natural revelation) by his people. This whole thread is based on the screwed up notion that EVERYBODY gets "a chance" and that it would be unjust of God for this not to be so. Nonsense! (I also suspect that some of us are trying to salve our own guilt for not telling our neighbors about Christ.) But once that foolishness is out of the way, we understand that God holds us responsible for "blowing the trumpet" to warn of the coming wrath. Ezek 33:1 And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Ezek 33:2 "Son of man, speak to the sons of your people and say to them, 'If I bring a sword upon a land, and the people of the land take one man from among them and make him their watchman, Ezek 33:3 and he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows on the trumpet and warns the people, Ezek 33:4 then he who hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, and a sword comes and takes him away, his blood will be on his own head. Ezek 33:5 'He heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning; his blood will be on himself. But had he taken warning, he would have delivered his life. Ezek 33:6 'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.' Ezek 33:7 "Now as for you, son of man, I have appointed you a watchman for the house of Israel; so you will hear a message from My mouth and give them warning from Me. Ezek 33:8 "When I say to the wicked, 'O wicked man, you will surely die,' and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand. Ezek 33:9 "But if you on your part warn a wicked man to turn from his way and he does not turn from his way, he will die in his iniquity, but you have delivered your life. (I don't know if I need to point this out to you, Tim, but did you notice that--and see the gospel preaching parallel, please--if the watchman does not sound the trumpet those who die, die in their own iniquity.) Peace, Lionstrong Peace, Lionstrong |
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289 | Did God really walk around the garden? | Gen 18:1 | Lionstrong | 31310 | ||
Dear BWJ: Gen 1:26 does not say that the image is the body. The verse simply says that God made man in His image. It does not say the image was a body. You have wrongly infered that the image is a body from this verse. God does not have a body. Deut 4:12 "Then the LORD spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of words, but you saw no form--only a voice...." Why did the Isrealites see no form, but only heard a voice? They saw no form because God is invisible. 2 Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 1 Tim 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. Rom 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Why is God invisible? Because God is spirit. (John 4:24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." Luke 24:39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.") Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. Like other creatures that God made to inhabit this world, we have bodies. God made man's body from the dust of the ground, not from himself. Man did not become a "living soul" until God breathed into that body. The breath that God breathed into man is God's image, not the body that he made from the ground. So, man's invisible spirit is the image of God, not man's body. Peace, Lionstrong |
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290 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Lionstrong | 31133 | ||
Hi Tim! So far, so good! Now look at the second verse I shared to answer the question, How does God reveal himself to those who did not seek or ask for him? Peace, Lionstrong |
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291 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Lionstrong | 31021 | ||
Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD Rom 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? What does the Word say? Peace, Lionstrong |
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292 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30905 | ||
Mat 20 When the workers who had "borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day" saw the landowner paying the one-hour workers a full day's wage, they thought in terms of justice. "If the one-hour workers deserve a full day's wage, how much more will the full-day workers get!" But they were wrong. The landowner was not paying the one-hour workers what was just. He was paying them what was generous. So, naturally the full-day workers were disappointed when they received only a day's wage. But the landowner corrected their erroneous thinking. He paid the full-day workers what was just, what they had agreed to work for, and he paid the one-hour workers what was generous. He had done the full-day workers no wrong--translate, he had done them no injustice. (I'm not saying that this is the main point of the parable, just a point) Peace, Lionstrong |
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293 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30901 | ||
I don't think you are wrong in what you've written, Ray, except when say, "there was no injustice" meaning that this passage has nothing to do with the issue of justice. You're right, though. A major topic of this passage is generosity. Peace, Lionstrong |
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294 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30877 | ||
No Eagle One, We're not communicating yet, because I still don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be talking about a fourth person of the Godhead, while everyone else who responded to my question understood rightly that I was talking about the Scripture. So, are you getting bizzar on me, or am I just not understanding you? Peace, Lionstrong |
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295 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30845 | ||
I'm afraid that if I answer your question Eagle One, you'll never get back to mine! I'll answer your question and see if you'll then answer mine. You ask, "What are your thoughts on John 1:1-4 and I John 1:1-3." Here they are: The Word in John 1:1-4 is the same word who became flesh and dwelt among us in John 1:14, that is, the Second Person of the Trinity. He created all things; and nothing made was made without him making it. Concerning 1 John 1:1-3: some feel the subject is Christ, others think the subject is the Gospel message. I belong to the latter group. Now, will you answer my question as you promised or delay further? Peace, Lionstrong |
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296 | Is God really just? | Deut 32:4 | Lionstrong | 30839 | ||
Hey Ray! Those who had worked the whole day felt the landowner was being unjust by paying those who had worked only one hour a full day's wage. So the reference was appropriate to issue of justice and the prerogative of the One who extends mercy. Peace, Lionstrong |
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297 | Creation: Written as Prose or Poetry? | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 30808 | ||
Hello Emmaus Moses was a top notch writer! Gen 1 is true history, written in non-figurative prose language, yet, to the credit of Moses and the One who inspired him, it is very well and powerfully written. That's how I see it, Emmaus. Thank you for you thorough response. Peace, Lionstrong |
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298 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30807 | ||
Yea, Emmaus! What Joe said. You wrote, "Cruden's Complete Concordance has this to say about the word heart. "The word heart is used in Scripture as the seat of life or strength; hence it means MIND, soul, spirit or one's entire emotional nature and under standing. It is also used as the center or inner part of a thing."" Literally the heart is an organ in the chest that pumps blood. So your use of the term must be figurative. I simply picked the first meaning in Crudens list as you see above. Now if that's not the word you would substitute, ok. Pick another. Joe has stated very well what the problem may be. I very much appreciate your presence on the forum. Peace, Lionstrong |
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299 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30773 | ||
Emmaus, you write, "And the Holy Spirit indwells the individual but also the Church and the two are inseparable, with the Holy Spirit speaking from the heart of the Church through the Scripture." So you mean that the Holy Spirit speaks from the mind of the Church through the Scripture. OK. That's a new concept to me. What does it mean, the Holy Spirit speaks from the mind of the church through Scripture? Unless you, as an RC, mean that the Pope is the "mind/heart of the Church," I have no idea what you mean. (And if it's the Pope that you mean, I, as a Protestant, do not believe such a notion.) But any way, what do you mean by the Holy Spirit speaks from the mind of the Church? Peace, Lionstrong |
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300 | Creation: Written as Prose or Poetry? | Gen 2:1 | Lionstrong | 30727 | ||
Hello Jethro, I'm sorry Jethro, but your post does not answer my question. What is question that you are answering? Peace, Lionstrong |
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