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221 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92729 | ||
So I guess everyone went to hell to be in torment for eternity. Too bad they never heard the gospel. BTW, who was Paul quoting that you ripped from it's moorings? When was it written? |
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222 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92731 | ||
Very true, indeed. Now what should happen AFTER one, living in the age of the Holy Spirit made available, believes for his salvation? In oher words, what must one do to be a follower of Christ to become a son in His likeness? Should 'being saved', in your estimation, mean more than 'being redeemed'? What's the diiference that should be recognized? Hint: Luke 17:17 (NASB) And Jesus answered and said, "Were there not ten cleansed? But the nine-- where are they? |
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223 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92738 | ||
"Yes, it IS too bad they never heard the gospel." ----------- Well I guess Rev 20.12 can't ever apply, in your mind. If it does you have some reconciling and explaining to do. since it has NOTHING to do with rewards, as good Baptist teaching would have you believe, but EVERYTHING to do with one's salvation. Rewards have to do the son's of God who have fought the good fight of faith and have overcome the evil one per 1 John 1 and not those you confess the name of Christ on Sunday, by showing up, but never mention His name at any other time. Rev. 20:12-15 (KJV) And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
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224 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92740 | ||
"I didn't rip the verses from their moorings. Paul did." No, Paul didn't, You did. You have misapplied what Paul was speaking of to mean something he wasn't saying. He was speaking of the general condition of all mankind. There have always been those within that 'mankind' who lived with consciences directed toward God, who believed He was. Why don't you consider Abraham and maybe Noah.....Just for starters. |
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225 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92747 | ||
What about God's Grace to those who would have accepted Christ if they had been given the opportunity, Steve, but died maybe centuries too soon? Do you really believe God to be that unfair? I've been trying in a round-a-bout way of trying to make to see this. | ||||||
226 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92750 | ||
"What it does NOT say in the passage you've quoted is that anyone will receive salvation at this judgement" Then why a have a judgment at all if not for the possibility of pardon or a lessoning of the sentence? Why not call it the great white condemnation? What do the verses imply, Steve? |
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227 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92751 | ||
"After God's direct revelation of Himself, not before that and not through creation" No way for Noah. He just believed and lived righteously. Should I repeat that? Abraham went out under the stars and made a determination. God heard him. Now what else did God do before Abe believed?..Zippo. |
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228 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92757 | ||
Oh, I see. Well I trust in your mind that includes those in that Nordic tribe we never met in the Bible and also the South American Indians who had a religion of their own being convinced there was God but didn't know how to worship Him. | ||||||
229 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92763 | ||
get real! Then I guess THOSE who lived good lives as best they could, being lead only be their consciences and having never heard the name of Jesus and the promises in Him, will go to hell? Sorry. You need more study. |
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230 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92764 | ||
Why did He choose these two guys? | ||||||
231 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92765 | ||
"I think you are misconstruing what I said. I said they died in faith. And faith comes from hearing God's revelation of Himself through His word. If they never heard, they are not saved." Nonsense! My God is bigger than that. |
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232 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92769 | ||
Luke 16:19 (YLT) 'And it came to pass, that the poor man died, and that he was carried away by the messengers to the bosom of Abraham—and the rich man also died, and was buried; Do you think that poor man knew about Jesus? |
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233 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92771 | ||
Romans says differently. No, Romans doesn't say differently. You are making it say what it doesn't say. |
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234 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92827 | ||
"Those who died before Christ were saved by faith in God. That faith was based on His revealed word" What revealed word would that have been? ---------------------------------- "Did the poor man know Jesus? No. He died before" Oh, I see. Well what saved to Abraham's bossom? |
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235 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92828 | ||
"Then a large body of Biblical scholars also has it wrong. But let's assume I am wrong. What does Romans teach concerning this? That's entirely possible. As I already stated, Paul is speaking about the depravity of humanity IN GENERAL. If you will investigate you will see he used the conditions that existed at the time of Noah by speaking in the past tense when describing things as they WERE right up the flood. Just read vs 1-31. All past tense speaking. |
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236 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92834 | ||
What did God say about KNOWING Jeremiah? and when He knew him. Do you believe God made him a robot or anybody robotic for that matter. Of course you don't believe that. So there must have been something about Jeremiah, something of himself, That God saw that God could bless Jeremiah when He saw it.. I believe God will do that with anyone who can say "I believe God is..THEREFORE, I will live life with Him in as my conscience." I believe God hears that in a person and honors it. I believe God knows before the birth of the one, who will and who will, not say it. Jesus says, "Go and make Disciples of the ones who will receive me as the one they long for". [paraphrase, mine] "Blessed are those that mourn...for they shall be comforted"......by those sent. |
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237 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92835 | ||
"I've already told what saved to Abraham's bosom--the direct revelation of God, His word." Naah...too vague and legalistic. Too Baptist in your thinking. The story Jesus tells mentions nothing of the poor man knowing anything about anything and being of a contrite nature. What does 'contrite' mean? Do you think it has any value in the scheme of things spiritually? |
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238 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92839 | ||
"I'm not sure where you're going with the conditions at Noah's time. Could you explain?" Sure there could have as many as 32m people who died in the flood. All depraved according to Paul. I believe him for that as you. BUT..That didn't happen over night just as it isn't happening to our nation, overnight. In the watering down of Adams verbal recording of things from creation do you think it just possible that people began to view God differently as we are [in our liberalism] yet retain a awe of Him that guided their lives until even that was gone from them and the flood came? What I'm trying ask is do you not think with those who no longer knew of Adam's record in it's fullest yet retained and attitude of there being a God, living their life accordingly, that God would still receive them after their death into paradise along with Lazarus. |
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239 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92841 | ||
LOL! No worries. I'm in the process of responding to you. I want to right also. Thanks..Ken | ||||||
240 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92844 | ||
"OK, I wanted to take a second look at what I believe, to ensure that I wasn’t too far off base scripturally. I know I’ll probably be crucified for what I believe, but then so was Jesus. In my estimation, being SAVED, and being REDEEMED is generally one in the same." Ok. [and I'll probably be crucified for this but here goes] Good reading of the scripture says that I am saved and I'm being saved. What does that mean except I'm enjoying a present spiritual condition of my state of being but yet as Paul states in Hebrews 4:4-6 (NASB) For He has thus said somewhere concerning the seventh day, "And God RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL His works"; [5] and again in this passage, "They shall not enter My rest." [6] Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of DISOBEDIENCE,... [May I suggest you read the whole chapter..] There reamains a "salvation" for us who are not disobedient. Am I wrong here? So I think we can safely say that we saved to be saved unto a [certain] perfection fully realized at the seeing of Jesus. Think some of us will have regrets? Ok. Many came to Jesus for healing/wholeness and received it. No Holy Ghost drawing power here. That's the way it was. Even today the word says whosoever will. This I believe for redemption for those opportuned to hear the gospel preached. Question: Will all choose to follow Christ? Here is where I believe the Holy Spirits "pull" on someone happens and regrets are made for those who, for whatever reasons, disobey. |
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