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181 | Ken, are you sure? | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101555 | ||
Seeking over? | ||||||
182 | Ken, are you sure? | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101572 | ||
No, I'm still seeking. And I always will be. But *I* determine what I'm seeking, you don't. I simply don't wish to argue with you. That's all. seeking4truth Ah, I see. In other words you've determined I'm arguing instead of bringing correction/adjustment into the deal. .....I sense you have a need to be right. If that's the case I stand by supposing you not to be seeking but to have your mind already made up and snapped shut. Am I wrong in that? I don't think so...I've read too many of your posts. |
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183 | Christ and Christians? | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101606 | ||
Matthew 5:48 - "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Think being born again is hard, try this one. Ouch. Sorry, no can do. Yet it is Jesus' imperative command, isn't it? seeking4truth You place that before the right man because that IS what the journey in Christ is all about. That's the path of righteousness AFTER you are born again. If it wasn't attainable Jesus would never have stated it. If you say, "Father I want to know you" be prepared for the journey that will take you home to Father's house. . It's sometimes called "Bringing son's into Glory" per: Hebrews 2:10 (NASB) For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings. We will be perfected as He [Jesus the MAN] was or we won't be the "Church without spot or wrinkle" who He comes for.. "that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and blameless". ...Ephes. 5:27 (NASB) No denominational thing here except to get rid of it. Lets be about ...Becoming. |
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184 | What is "born again?" | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101696 | ||
I got as letter stating I was removed from the forum. Apparently some here are having their way in silencing me, I thought. |
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185 | What comes after I'm saved? | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101697 | ||
First off, the Great Commandment must be a reality in ones life who claim Christ as LORD. Secondly, the practical working/walking out of the thing will be in relationships we establish and circumstances placed in our lives either by God or otherwise it must be cultivated within to recognize God in all matters of our life....Proverbs 16:9 (NASB) The mind of man plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps. This is especially true of the child of God seeking to become a son....... John 1:12 (YLT) but as many as did receive him to them he gave authority to become sons of God—to those believing in his name, How I'd do so far? |
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186 | Can anyone agree with this? | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101698 | ||
Why not? Don't just say no. Give you thinking and it's foundation. | ||||||
187 | What is "born again?" | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101702 | ||
In case I get cut off can you give me an E-M address? | ||||||
188 | What is "born again?" | Luke 14:26 | Ken hepting | 101714 | ||
I posted this elsware for Searcher: Consider this: [and I don't necessarily think I'm correct, but I don't think I'm all wrong if, at all] "Many are called, but few are chosen" Who are the called but the "saved", i.e., those who believe Christ as savior, for eternal life, because of the cross and the blood that was shed for everyone. They are now called up to something. That something is to become a "son unto the Father" ergo, a "son brought into glory". [Jn 17] Freewill, being an unchanging factor, in the thing must still be considered when God, in His wisdom God chooses those who He reveals Himself to to become a son since they have chosen Him; They want to KNOW Him. But, "Let him who builds, count the cost...." Jn. 3.3,5. These are they that want to know Christ as more than just savior. The Beatittudes are now the thing that come into focus especially the one "Those who hunger and thirst...". Do you want to know God? Enter the great commandment. Learn how to. |
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189 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92326 | ||
"How about a different figure of speech?? You say Born into the Kingdom, and it's no telling what you might get. You say Born again, then just about everyone is on the same page." But it's not a figure of speech, Curtman. It's a clear mistake to think one can be born into the kingdom of God. So being on the right page is not the issue here. Jn 3.3,5 make it plain that one MUST be born again to see it and enter it IF one chooses. Jesus said "many are called but not many are chosen". Why? Because not many 'saved' people choose the kingdom of God as their of way; THE way of life, to LIFE. I personally wouldn't hold out much hope for such a one succeeding to the end embracing Christ only as savior without Him also being Lord. ----------------------------------- Heaven is a prepared place for a prepared people, like you said. Who are those prepared people? Try reading the 3rd chp. of John. the first 18 verses. Personally I believe it to be self explainitory, if not post your questions, and you will get an answer. It is self explanatory. The word 'believe', that we skim over, must be clarified to mean something that demands or requires an action. This links it inseparably with the word 'faith'; ours. This is something WE do that we may enter and BEGIN to see, the kingdom of God. From then on we MUST learn to live BY the FAITH of Christ because His Faith gives us the 'eyeballs' for viewing the issues of life from His perspective; i.e., from the kingdom. Remember the term 'eyesalve' used in scripture? |
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190 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92334 | ||
"Correct me if I'm wrong on this thing, but I thought that your original question, "Where does it say that we are born into the kingdom of God" was based on your perspective that "Heaven is a prepared place for a prepared people". The way this forum is structured it's diffficult to know who said what. My question was in reply to the statement made by Fran1946 who stated we are born ino the kingdom of God. |
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191 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92335 | ||
I appreciate that, Curtman and consider it an opportunity to enlarge our discussion to get at the real issues of why Jesus Christ came to earth...other than 'just get people saved'. Ken |
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192 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92346 | ||
"Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" Paul isn't talking to just anyone here but to them who have already entered; already delivered into the kingdom of God. Entering is a choosing on our part. If we choose then we are gifted with the Holy Ghost for entry and that we might see the kingdom to become a son of God. "Luke 14:27-28 [NASB] "Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. [28] "For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost, to see if he has enough to complete it? Question: How does one carry his cross if he is not already a disciple; born again? So Jesus is speaking to those who would be His followers and if we choose it should be because we have counted the cost. Remember the rich young ruler who walked away from Him? He counted the cost. There are many scriptures pertaining to sons of God getting kick out of the kingdom. |
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193 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92363 | ||
Thank you for your response. So based on the statement below I gather you believe all born again believers have not entered the kingdom of God. That this actually happens at the time of the infilling of the Holy Spirit? Is this correct understanding? "Entering is a choosing on our part. If we choose then we are gifted with the Holy Ghost for entry and that we might see the kingdom to become a son of God. "Luke 14:27-28 [NASB]" Thank you again for your responses _____________________________________ Lets be careful with what you are think I am saying I what I think I am saying. I'm saying the infilling is NOT for salvation because that's what the Blood of Christ has accomplished. Righteous people who have never heard the name of Christ to worship Him, will be in Heaven because of the shed Blood of Christ. Jesus died for all men everywhere. Those righteous who died in their sins, He set free when He went to Paradise. Contrawise, those unrighteous weren't in Paradise to be saved. The infilling is for the believer that he BE born again but the choosing is still with him/her after that to begin the discipling proccess; the denial of self unto becoming a son of God. So-o-o-o many stop short right here! Because of 'cost counting' the whole Christian doctrine has been altered [watered down] to accomodate the luke warm and carnal Christian. This is a condition Paul addresses at great length and John's revelation speaks to, also. The latest [severe] watering down came just the other night in Minnesota at the Episcopal bishop's thing. I hope I've been more clear this time..Thanks |
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194 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92365 | ||
Hank, read my latest..Thanks | ||||||
195 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92371 | ||
I believe I have...So much has been written. I think she/he owes me. | ||||||
196 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92415 | ||
"I disagree...before Christ there were no righteous people." Then you must reconcile this passage satisfactorily:Rev. 20:12 NASB 'And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, ACCORDING TO THEIR DEEDS.' These are the ones, those who did righteous deeds that the blood Christ will redeem. This will testify to the acripture that man is without excuse and God rewards those who see Him in the Earth through the various means He has provided and who, as a consequence of seeing, live their lives accordingly. The Grace of God can't be so narrow as to not include them because they never heard the name of Jesus. No! Their names will be in the book of life. Furthermore this is the main reason for evangelism, i.e., to preach the gospel of the good news of the kingdom of God to "bring many sons into glory" and NOT to get people saved who already sense there is a God but to explain Him [God] that they might come into the more perfect way of believing in Him. Buy the book "Bruchco". The young man Bruce Olsen who went to SA and to the Mantalone indian tribe. It will explain a lot of what I'm referring to. Your references having to with sending a preacher has to do more with the preaching of the kingdom of God they hope for because they already see God [in nature] and need to have closure in the matter of how to attain entrance into eternal life with Him. Re-read all that you just posted to me in the light of Rev 20.12. Don't let it mean it was for those who died with the promise of Messiah. They had preachers and plenty of them. Many had God Himself. |
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197 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92417 | ||
"These had 'received the Word' and therefore were born again. Received the Word means that they had taken it to heart or taken it within. The infilling came later to them. To be born again is to be regenerated by the Holy Spirit, but to be 'filled' is to be empowered supernaturally for service." No. Infilling and the coming upon are two seperate issues and manifestations of the same Spirit. You might try this: The infilling, the new birth experience, is the very life of Christ that comes INTO you if you haved believed on His worded preached to you, see Him as Savior and desire Him as Lord. He [Jesus Christ] then enters you that He MAY become the baptiser with the Holy Spirit. Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he SHALL baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire. SHALL? and not, WILL? Sometimes this happens all at one time. I've seen it that way. Most of the time it doesn't but requires one to tarry. But that's God's business and His timing in the matter. |
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198 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92421 | ||
"Ken, I've been thinking about this one all night long, I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind telling me the REAL ISSUE of why Jesus came to earth...other than just get people saved." Thanks for this question, Curtman. If we can grasp what some of our older scholars of the word have said I believe the church can be truly renewed/ I like what Oswald Chambers says here: November 12th. My Utmost for His Highest THE TRANSFIGURED LIFE "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Corinthians 5:17 What idea have you of the salvation of your soul? The experience of salvation means that in your actual life things are really altered, you no longer look at things as you used to; your desires are new, old things have lost their power. One of the touchstones of experience is - Has God altered the thing that matters? If you still hanker after the old things, it is absurd to talk about being born from above, you are juggling with yourself. If you are born again, the Spirit of God makes the alteration manifest in your actual life and reasoning, and when the crisis comes you are the most amazed person on earth at the wonderful difference there is in you. There is no possibility of imagining that you did it. It is this complete and amazing alteration that is the evidence that you are a saved soul. What difference has my salvation and sanctification made? For instance, can I stand in the light of 1 Corinthians 13, or do I have to shuffle? The salvation that is worked out in me by the Holy Ghost emancipates me entirely, and as long as I walk in the light as God is in the light, He sees nothing to censure because His life is working out in every particular, not to my consciousness, but deeper than my consciousness. ------------------------------------------ There certainly is a "Plumline" we are placed against when we seek to follow and experience Christ in our lives. Certain of these "feelings" given us to convict us SHOULD lead us to the cross the we might see our error, ask for forgiveness, and then get on with becoming a son God desires to bring into His Glory. This is why Jesus, the man, had to prove Himself and what the scripture means when it says: Hebrews 5:8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. Ephes. 4:20-22 But ye have not so learned Christ; [21] If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: [22] That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; Philip. 4:9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. These ARE the works we must be about. I hope I've been a help |
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199 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92423 | ||
You might try this: The infilling, the new birth experience, is the very life of Christ that comes INTO you if you haved believed on His word preached to you, see Him as Savior and desire Him as Lord. He [Jesus Christ] then enters you that He MAY become the baptiser with the Holy Spirit. Compare Jn20.22 with Acts 2 |
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200 | unrighteous shall not inhert the kingdom | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92424 | ||
Can't we begin to see, in light of what Paul was saying in his letters, that this doesn't apply to just the unconverted but more to the converted who don't live the life as to becoming a son? Can we begin to see that we can fall away and become an outcast; to enter presumptiously into the wedding feast without a wedding garment? | ||||||
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