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221 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89796 | ||
My sincere apologies. I got so engrossed and long winded that I overlooked the most important portion of your post. My response to your question will follow shortly. George |
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222 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89809 | ||
You stated, "Since it says the only way to the Father is through Jesus, this may have allowed him to take them up. I would be interested to know what you think in regards to this. Also I have read other posts by you and I must say you do seem to speek with a spiritual knowledge. I pray that what you pass on brings others closer to God. God bless." IF ONE NEVER REMENBERS ANY OTHER WORD I SAY, I PRAY THAT THEY WILL REMEMBER THIS... IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT I OR ANYONE ELSE "THINKS" WHERE THE (WORD OF GOD) IS CONCERNED. IT ONLY MATTERS (WHAT) THE WORD OF GOD IS, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN THE HEART. FOR (YOU) AND (YOU) ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ETERNAL SOUL. I AM ONLY A MESSENGER. I GIVE THANKS AND PRAISE TO HE WHO ORIGINATED THAT WHICH I SO HUMBLY DELIVER, THE GOD OF GODS; FATHER OF MY SAVIOR, FOR ALL WHO WOULD RECIEVE. Actually, you misinterpret the fact that “the only way to the Father is through Jesus.” Jesus Christ died for our sins. If we know Him, we know the Father. If we know not the Son, likewise we know not the Father. The only way to the to the Father is through the Son. In other words. We must not only believe in Jesus (for Satan himself believes in him,) but we must also believe what He said and strive to live according to His teachings. The greatest of which is “to love your neighbor as yourself.” Jesus himself said this. (BNB) Mat 22:39 The second most important commandment is like it: 'Love your neighbor as you love yourself.' If this is the second most important commandment, I wonder what the first one was…. So… I seriously doubt that Enoch and Elijah were taken up by Jesus, for He hadn’t even been born yet. Thus, this occurrence is irrelevant to the fact that “says the only way to the Father is through Jesus.” I hope my feeble explination is adequate to solve your curiosity, but I would challenge you to get into the word and verify what I have said. (KJV) 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. George |
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223 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89838 | ||
Very interesting. But what about Moses, whos contenance was such that no one could look on him, and he literally had to cover his face after his visit with the Lord. And then there is Jacob, who "wrestled with the Lord. There was someone else who said, " I have seen thy face and lived. It is only icing on top of the cake. Brothers with differing opinions are still brothers. George |
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224 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89888 | ||
I was going to ignore your last such request. However, I am truly saddened that you are so personally offended. I will not argue the point. This is twice now you have suggested I leave this sight. If you are so filled with guilt by the word of truth that you have taken so much that I have quoted from the word as a (personal) attack (when it was not intended as such,) that you should scorn me with such blasphemies, I would respectfully request that you neither read nor respond to my posts. I don’t claim to be perfect. What I state is biblical and not up for anyones interpretation. I would also inform you that, unless this sight belongs to you personally, I have just as much right to it as yourself. End of discussion. Respectfully George |
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225 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89899 | ||
We have so far to go. So much to do, and so little time to do it in. We should all just give up on ourselves and follow Jesus! Why can't we do that? There is no me; no you; only Him, in which we are all one. Oh what a day that will be! Thank you Rich George |
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226 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89901 | ||
I sincerely appologize to all if I have been coming across in the manner you suggest. When one states a point concerning scripture as it were fact, I tend to rebut in what some would consider an overly stressful manor. I am trying to gain control of this spirit. Who is to say that Enoch and Eliga have escaped the curse? (Now, please don't take this statement as it appears. Take it spiritually.) Who is to say their curse is not yet to come in the end days? This of course is a fleeting thought on my part and as I am not an authority on Revelations, I have nothing other than a theory. George |
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227 | Scriptural reference to Book of Jasper? | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89902 | ||
I thought it may have been a spell thing. Thanks George |
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228 | Scriptural reference to Book of Jasper? | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89904 | ||
Dosen't bother me. That's what I said about the "Apocro-whatever." It is interesting to know though. Ed, I'd bet you've forgotten more than most of us herein will ever know... Personally, I have enough to learn as it is, without having to worry about one someone didn't figure was important enough to mention more than twice in the other 66. One could question and speculate all night. In the end, they wouldn't be any closer to the truth than in the beginning. What a waste of time that one could have used to study what is inportant. Thanks George |
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229 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 89995 | ||
Again, If I weren't to accept your apology, then I couldn't ask you to accept mine, which I do. Some want not to show their own ignorance by not "discussing anything with you" Schmythe. Others simply haven't the patience. Still, as with myself, others are offended by your method of discussion. Learn by what you see in the experiences of others. Try not to make the same mistakes they did and do. There is a Gold mine of learning along this line in this thread alone. Look at some of my posts. I haven't always worded them right, and thus came across saying something I didn't intend to say. Other times, what I wrote wasn't read correctly, and thus came across as an offence to the reader. Someone noted on this sight, in this thread , I think, something to the affect that "Christians don't come together to discuss scripture in the spirit of love because...." I wish I could remember who wrote it, and where that note was! For I simply don't believe that there is a true Christian alive who wishes to disagree with another Christian. Why CAN'T we agree? (I've got to do some serious studying!) It was as such in the early days of the church, and is as such today. BUT WHY? (Scriptural quotes please.) George |
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230 | Searching for the truth | 1 Thess 4:17 | GeorJoy | 90170 | ||
For the most part, if not at least 98o/o, and for what little it may be worth, I agree. However, the word does state that there are mysteries that are not for man to know. Not teaching this fact , I should think would be detrimental to the student and the pursuit of (truth,) and would put the teacher in the place of the watchman who did not sound the trumpet, as in Eze 33. The word also states that for everything there is a time. This, I should think includes understanding; for as I love to quote “if understanding came before acceptance, one would accept very little.” I.e.;Do you understand how your microwave, telephone or CD player works? I don't, but because they have performed for me previously, I accept on faith that they work and forget about worrying why. Where the word is concerned, I personally like to rely on the Holy spirit to fill in for where I lack. If one can not find an answer with reasonable effort, there are some things which are better left alone than researched. For as is stated in Ecc 12:12 “much study is a weariness of the flesh.” Where the word of God is concerned, I have yet to seek the answer to a sincere question, which was not given me at one time or another. The answer may have come after I had long given up on the question, but the important answers were delivered as soon as the time was right. Thus, once again, my faith is a proven performer. I should think that a “Bible Teacher” would, not only teach that one should study. But that they would consider bringing this fact to light as well. In Christ George |
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231 | how to interpret scripture? | 2 Tim 3:16 | GeorJoy | 89998 | ||
One can quote all the fairy tales they wish. If they don't understand Gods word, they can come up with excuses that could nearly convince the elect. I never heard or read a fary tale that stated such as is in 2Ti 2:15, Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. I would suggest that rather than the fairy tales of others, one should consider the word of God. If one seriously does so, it would be no accident if he stumbled across sthe truth. Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: Mar 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. "If they don't want to see, or hear, They desirve NOT the truth." Carefull now! George |
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232 | Is Your Modern Translation Corrupt? | 2 Tim 3:16 | GeorJoy | 90003 | ||
My goodness! I wonder if the Pharisees did not have this same discussion? I would ask. "What is the second greatest commandment"? What is there beyond ones fulfillment of this commandment that is worthy of study? Is it likely that it was misinterpreted? When I get this one perfected, I may consider seeking the perfection of another of my shortcomings; Comparitively; Not the least of which is the "mote" in the eye of those who would waste thought on such things as these. By the way; On a seemingly contradictory note, I like the NIV for obvious reasons. The Lord showed it to me shortly after its first full printing when, not knowing there was even another version in existence, I informed him that I couldn’t understand the KJV, and that there must be something out there that I could understand. He promptly satisfied my sincere desire. I also like the KJV “for obvious reasons;” Probably, primarily the same as others who were raised with it. Also because it helps to clarify questions I may have with specific scripture or thought in the NIV. I also like, and occasionally use for clarification purposes “The Interlinear Bible, Hebrew, Greek, English,” with the KJ2 version along the sideline, which anyone who is familiar with will know the obvious reason. I’d say that the KJV has stood the “test of time,” and that faith means more than all the words of all the so called scholars… George |
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233 | what about the Jewish feasts | Hebrews | GeorJoy | 102083 | ||
In defense of your argument I would quote the NIV’s interpretation of Paul’s statement to the Galatians in 5:12. As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves. However, I find that most unlearned Christians will be quick to disagree adamantly with you. Let the disagreements help you to refine your delivery of the facts you are attempting to teach. As I have stated before, ”to the unlearned Christian, this is a touchy subject which will either reveal the depths of their ignorance, or depict their willingness to learn and accept scripture in it’s unleavened purity.” I would sum it up in this simple statement. If one is “truly” a Christian, according to Christ’s teachings and ultimate sacrifice, and the apostle Paul, one is not under the law. Yet when one is a true Christian, one will, through the observance of the greatest commandments observe the law. Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Think about it. If one adheres to the above, will he not follow the commandments? Exhorting in Christ George |
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234 | Jehonadab. Who is your master? | 2 Pet 2:21 | GeorJoy | 102412 | ||
Amen. And thank you. I agree. It would seem that when the questions gets tough, the tough get going. I am sure this person at least saw this post. I pray it may have planted something, or at the very least put a little water on that something. I was getting tired of seeing this post, and about ready to answer it myself. In Christ George |
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235 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100354 | ||
I had this same experience you are having many years ago. My friend said that the Bible was written by man and therefore fallible. The Lord showed me 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is ---)given by inspiration of God,(--- and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Although I don't like to put it this way, I feel that the Lord put the following into my heart to tell this person. If there is a God and the bible is His word and I live by what it says, I will spend eternity with my God and reap the rewards promised in His Word. If there isn't a God and I still live by what the bible says, have I not gained more than I have lost by loving others? In actuality, what have I lost? However, if there is a God and The Bible IS His word to man and You do not live by it, what have you lost.... Your eternal soul! The Bible also speaks of what the non believer will experience. (then I quote the passage about Lazarus and the rich man.) If you present it right, you may not know it but you will at the very least "plant the seed." Another friend that I was trying to witness to once told me "what is steak to some, is hamburger to others." He was referring to Jesus and His teachings, that although they were stake to me, they were mere hamburger to him. After I clarified that I had understood him to say what I thought I had understood, the Lord put the following words in my mouth. "If this is how you feel, then so be it. the next time you grill a stake or hamburger, you might want to take a look at those hot fire coals. The Lord stated that your final destination, should you not choose to accept Him, would make those coals look like a cool bed of roses. May God bless you in your witnessing. Ask Him. He will. Just don't get discouraged. And don't get impatient. Remember Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Even a failure now and then is included in the "all things." You may never see the fruits of your toil. But the Lord knows this persons heart and Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: In Christ George |
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236 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100392 | ||
I agree wholeheartedly, with one exception. Not "being told by you." they should see you and the difference between you and others, which is your evidence. However I feel that we may be trying to take things in to our own hands. For I do not remember, other than the performance of miracles, Paul, the apostles, or for that matter Jesus himself ever doing anything more than "presenting" the good news. They didn't use psycology, they didn't try to tell or show what they had "recieved" as a "payment or result" of their believing. They simply delivered the word and the Spirit did the rest. Anything more on our part is a show of a lack of the faith that we are supposed to be modeling. Yet, what works for one may or may not work for another. Personally, I "often,(not always, depending on delivery)" consider it boasting when someone tells what the Lord has done for them. In Christ George |
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237 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100475 | ||
Well Ed, once again I will have to agree with everything you say. The martyrs literally gave their lives for our Lord and what they believed in. I am certain that you and I would do the same without hesitation, yet even though the martyrs paid the ultimate price, there were many who continued in their disbelief. Likewise it is today. So like the martyrs, all we can do is to give our all, according to the gifts we have received. In Christ George |
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238 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100593 | ||
And again, I have to agree with you wholeheartedly Ed, yet Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well-doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. It is easy to become discouraged my dear Brother. We both know that what you have described has already been written. The only way I can overcome, or at the very least contain such discouragement as exuded in your post is to "try" imagining the discouragement our Lord must have felt when the very people He had healed, ministered to, and those who had even witnessed His miracles, condemned him to die. Yet you know what He said on the cross. I pray that I could forgive them, but I doubt myself. It's all about faith.!.!.! Rom 14:22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself.... "Perhaps this verse is a little out of context here, but I think this portion fits." They can kill, rape and distroy the flesh, but WE are not of the flesh!!! We know that our and our loved ones mortal flesh is only a passing thing. As I said, I am sure that you or I would give our lives for what we believe. As to what either of us would do under the circumstances you depict, only our Lord knows. As He knows all, and has since before time, He knows our hearts and the sorrow we share. For what is, has been. Our sorrow is only for a moment. Imagine His. Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. I was once told that the closer we are to the Father, the more we think like Him and see things in a Godly light. In Christ George |
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239 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100601 | ||
Ed, please forgive my interjection. Perhaps I have misunderstood, but I would have to say that rather than listening to some "Apologist," and those he “apologizes to,” (their garbage will only cloud your mind,) one (through the Spirit,)should "Listen to THE word," for it is the only defense. The Word needs no “Apologist.” How can anyone “defend the Word.” The Word is OUR defense. We “so called” Christians are who need an “Apologist.” And an Apologist, we have, but we are often too STUPID to accept His defense. Rather we try defending ourselves. Did you ever hear the saying that “the one who defends himself has a fool for a client?” 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Why Dear Lord, can our feeble, flesh ladened minds not comprehend the “simplicity” of Your word!? George |
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240 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | GeorJoy | 100604 | ||
AMEN. It seems this is what EdB has been saying in not so many..... well perhaps, many - many words throughout this thread. George |
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