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4821 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | EdB | 80474 | ||
Truthfinder Hades in Jew culture was the holding place for dead souls. Jesus in Luke 16:19-31 told the story of the rich man and Lazarus. In that story Jesus' description of where the two men were coincided with the Jewish concept of Hades (Hell). Since Jesus confirmed the Jewish concept of Hades(Hell)for us to understand Hades(Hell) all we need to do is read that account. EdB |
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4822 | Did Jesus go to hell? | 1 Peter | EdB | 80538 | ||
Truthfinder A dead soul is just that a soul that, their earth suit has died. We are eternal beings. We either spend eternity in the presence of the Lord or in the Lake of Fire. The story in Luke 16 was a parable using the understanding of his audience to make his point. Jesus didn't introduce a new concept with Hades this is what Jews understood death to be. That has now changed since Jesus' death and His leading captive captivity Eph. 4:8. In other words taking those in Abraham's bosom home to heaven. Paul now tells us to be absent from the body is present with the Lord 2 Cor 5:8. Looking forward to seeing my Lord!!!! EdB |
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4823 | If we ask for healing does God answer no | 1 Peter | EdB | 146755 | ||
Mitch I was gong to stay out of this but you force me in. Let us look at Job a moment. Let us look at Job 1:8 this is God speaking and he says Job is blameless and upright, a man that fears God and shuns evil. Yet right after that testimony of God we read Job lost his children and his wealth. Let us move to Job 1:22 here God through His Holy Spirit that in ALL of this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong. Now we move to verse Job 2:3 God again testifies on Job's behalf saying there is none like him on earth and again repeats he is BLAMELESS and upright, a man the fears God and shuns evil and hold fast to his integrity even though Satan incites God against him TO DESTROY HIM WITHOUT CAUSE. Right after this we see Job inflicted with boils. Now look at Job 2:10 Job's wife seeing his misery says curse God and die. Here the Holy Spirit testifies that Job did not sin with his lips. Now if Job had a problem with his faith allowing fear to over take him, do you think God would have ignored it calling Job blameless? If Job was weak in faith tied up in fear would God say there is none like him on earth upright shunning evil? Would God say Satan incited Him without cause? All of these require God to be saying something different than you accuse Job of doing. The book of Job was given to us to show us how a man of God stands, perseveres and overcomes when faced with adversity and tragedy. Job is to imitated not accused Sir you have got caught up in the some the craziest teaching, it is known as Word of Faith. It is predicated on metaphysics in that through faith you speak things or situations into or out of existence. This teaching has been around in one form or another for hundreds of years and every major denomination (let me add a caveat here since every one is taking me to task today), that I can at this moment think of, has a statement/teaching/doctrine that this teaching is heretical. The most disgusting and ugliest part of this teaching is they realized for this falsehood to stand they had to malign Job which they did by attempting to say he brought this problem on to himself. Yet God Himself testified that Satan incited God not Job or anything Job said. Sir let me say you wish you had the faith of Job. EdB |
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4824 | Fear God! | 1 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 35811 | ||
Hank You hit the nail on the head. If every pastor preached an expository message this would even happen. However most preach the more popular topical message taking a verse from here and one from there to make their point. Notice my phrasing "their" point. If ministers of the Word would get back to expository preaching, expounding the word of God instead of making their own sermons there wouldn't be a balance problem nor would there be a concern about fearing God. EdB |
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4825 | Fear God! | 1 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 35836 | ||
Joe I agree with your assessment of evangelicals today, most are viewed as hypocrites. I also agree that much of that is not without foundation. We are a church with our feet in the world. We resort to worldly ways for everything and moan like the world when we don’t have what we are looking for. Where is the victory? Where is the sanctification? Where is the Holy living? Christ has given us the victory and we the church of Jesus Christ should live it! Instead we mamby pamby around trying to be friends with the world and friends with of the Lord. The church isn’t despised today because it is following Jesus it is despised today because it fails to live with it expounds. EdB |
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4826 | Fear God! | 1 Pet 1:17 | EdB | 35839 | ||
Hank They the Puritans may fare fairly well in today's society. People would quickly realize these are people to be respected because they live as they say. Look at the Amish, many stand in admiration of them, why because they at least have the guts to live as they believe. Society sees the church today a living lie, we say one thing and live another. What is there to respect? That our divorce rate is higher than secular worlds? That our children are involved in the same things theirs are? That our clergy is above reproach when we read about them almost nightly being arrested for one thing or another? That our joy is greater than theirs, when in fact the Christian face is probably the most saddest? Or our peace when we have beg for money to pay our debts? That we have firm direction in life when we can’t decide the right way to worship our God? That we love our neighbors like ourselves as we talk about the Baptist, the Methodist, Catholics? That we are loyal when we change churches faster than most change wall paper. That were honest as we see one ministry after another investigated for scams. That we follow the law as we speed pass with our I love Jesus bumper stickers. That we prefer our brother over ourselves but then put the displays on we do in church parking lots after service. Just let a bum walk into our churches as see how very Christian we are. People will rush to give him their seat as they rush to get away from him. No I think the Puritan or person that is willing to live for his conviction would be well received today. Believe it or not society is looking for the answer but until the church starts living like Christ the answer won’t be found there. EdB |
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4827 | Latin Bible preserved scripture | 1 Pet 1:25 | EdB | 243561 | ||
Much is said about Bible translations and bringing the Bible into the language of the people. However God had a plan. Translation is as much an art as a skill. Word for word translations coming from Hebrew or even Greek in many cases are simply impossible. Often the Hebrew or Greek word means far more than any single English word can accurately represent. Also at the time many point to a birth of common language translations, many people that spoke only the common language were illiterate and unable to read or write their common language. So having something they could read was nearly useless to them. Many find this hard to believe but stats today say 14 percent of Americans are functionally illiterate and that a full 70 percent of those in prison are unable to read or write anything above the most basic levels. If our stats are so bad imagine the rest of the world, actually the world average reflects our stats but there are countries which have rates a low as only 19 percent. The educated people of say the 1500’s that could read and write were trained in Latin which also happened to be a language which based on Greek was almost a word for word translation. I believe God plan it this way to preserve His Word until the people trained in the science of translation were able to do so. However since Latin is what many call a dead “language†it is no longer taught in schools, which is a shame. I think if it was there would be less misunderstanding (differing interpretations) of what scripture is saying. Incidentally many of the Hebrew words spoken at the time of the Pentateuch have been forever lost. My understanding is when Israel left Egypt they had to reinvent part of the Hebrew dialect. I’m told by experts in most cases they were right on or very close but in other cases no one knows for sure. |
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4828 | True and faithful preaching | 1 Pet 1:25 | EdB | 243562 | ||
True preaching is a man under the unction of the Holy Spirit openly doing an exegesis of scripture. Nothing more nothing less. |
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4829 | Healing by Strips physical or not | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82397 | ||
Imf At the pool of Bethesda John 5:3 In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water. And Jesus only healed one! It is fact that every Christian down through history either died from injury or disease. Nobody dies from nothing. To say God will heal you everytime is absurded. Even the prince of faith healers Smith Wigglesworth had to be carried into the meetings suffering from kidney stones, and he died of something. EdB |
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4830 | Healing by Strips physical or not | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82437 | ||
Imf In most cases God doesn't causes sickness, but there are exceptions read Ex 4:11 God clearly says he makes blind, deaf and mute people. Also read Deut 7:15 where God clearly says He will lay the diseases of Egypt upon those that oppose Israel. Read also Exodus 15:26 God clearly states He was the One that put disease on Egypt. So never say God never causes diseases because you will find yourself in opposition to the Bible. EdB |
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4831 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82479 | ||
Imf See this is the problem with so much of this thinking. You said Jesus will never abandon us. That is absolutely right! Whether we are healed or not does not change that fact! To connect the two is where there is a problem. Jesus will never leave you but that doesn't say you will always be healed. EdB |
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4832 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82488 | ||
Imf Yes and many times God does heal us, but in some instances God allows us not to be healed. EdB |
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4833 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82546 | ||
Graceful As Ed said, there were many at the pool... and only one was healed, but I do not agree with his conclusion that the reason only one was healed was because it was not God's will to heal the others. But rather that man's lack of faith to receive healing because of his opposing belief that that it is not God's will to heal everyone. Now they had enough faith to be there and wait for the angel to stir the water but they didn't have enough faith to turn to Jesus right after he healed a man in their sight. Sure! I also did not give an explanation as to why they all weren't healed I simply said all were present and the apparently all weren't healed. God had another plan. God doesn't always heal when we think he should was the point I was making. "scripture does not record a single case where Jesus crefused to heal anyone who asked Him." I think you need to read Matthew 15:22-28 Jesus did refuse but the persistance of the woman made Him change his mind. Also David prayed for his son and God did not heal him. Jesus also did not heal Lazarus but allowed him to die to show God might. God does what glorifies Him the most and serves His purpose while working all things to our good. The Bible says nothing about the servants faith in the story of the Centurian and Jesus healed the servant. The father of the demonic son said he lacked the faith but asked for it and Jesus healed the son and if the son was demonic he couldn't have had faith for healing so Jesus worked in face of a lack of faith. See Graceful your hard fast rules don't always hold, maybe they aren't so cut and dried as you think. EdB |
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4834 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82553 | ||
Graceful "But I do believe when faith and the Word join, God's healing will take place." Think about this statement don't you see the problem with it? "Do you honestly believe Jesus 'refused' in the sense of the word you use here?" Yes Jesus refused! That is what the word says. Had the woman walked away I believe that would be the end of the story, however praise the Lord she persisted. "Also David's child was conceived in sin and could not be the heir of the promise." I think that was a distasteful remark. Besides Perez was in your “words conceived in sin,” Tamar tricked her father in law Judah into getting her pregnant and he is part of the line of Jesus Matt 1:3. "The Bible says nothing about the servants faith in the story of the Centurian and Jesus healed the servant. The father of the demonic son said he lacked the faith but asked for it and Jesus healed the son and if the son was demonic he couldn't have had faith for healing so Jesus worked in face of a lack of faith." Your right, but are you telling me of all the people at the pool Bethesda none had any relatives or friends or servants or master that believed in Jesus and they weren’t praying for them to be healed? I find that unlikely. If the just the faith of others can heal people as you claim in the case of the Centurion, why don’t you clean out the hospitals of this country? I mean put the doctors out of work. Surely you have as much faith as demonic son’s dad had. See the hard fast rules aren’t always so hard and fast. EdB |
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4835 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82573 | ||
Graceful "I think that was a distasteful remark." Distasteful? What politically correct or tasteful term would you use? She was married to another, not David. I read this as a slur on the child, since we are all born with a sin nature our conception means little, in fact Psalmist uses says we are all conceived in sin.. Perez was born conceived outside of wedlock, in basically what is called an abomination later in the scriptures. As for the pool of Bethseda your right it is speculation, but you must admit Jesus only healed the one not everyone, and I can’t imagine someone seeing this didn’t holler, “do me too!” Ed, I won't tell you what in scripture this statement reminds me of...Although I understand your reasoning here, I will not compare my faith or anyone else's as a gauge to judge the truth of the Word. I’m not asking you to compare your faith. You said the faith of the centurion was what got the servant healed. Reread the story. The centurion had faith in the power and authority of Jesus. Jesus healed in demonstration of the authority and power, He was visibly demonstrating He was God. If it was just faith of the centurion which God honored then we have to assume everyone who’s had a loved one died after they prayed for them didn’t have enough faith. If that be the case then the problem is with every Christian who ever had a love one die. God has nothing to do with it, other than healing them, it is our faith that determines if someone lives or dies. Graceful I won’t tell you what in scripture your statements reminds me of… Have a Jesus filled day? EdB |
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4836 | How literal do we go? | 1 Pet 3:1 | EdB | 124489 | ||
joyduncan The submission is this verse has nothing to do with suppression of women. The word used for submission here is very similar to the meaning of the word Roman soldiers used to connect their shields to form a turtle. The turtle was a very unique battle formation where the soldiers linked their shields together. On side of the shield held a loop and the other a hook. You can imagine the confusion if every soldier tried to hook his loop to the guy next while trying to hook is hook also. Nothing would get done and everyone would be frustrated. Each man would upon command would offer his loop to the hook of the solder next to him and in order they would “submit” to the next until they were all linked together. In every situation there has to be a tie breaker or nothing would get accomplished each would be trying to hook his hook and loop and his loop. God in his wisdom said man is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. How much was that? Did Jesus lord Himself over the church? No He served the church, giving His life for the church, yet He is the head of the church. Does that mean He suppresses the church? No. It means when a decision is made it is His responsibility of leadership to look out for the welfare of the church and make the right decision. Now man is to model that, does that mean he is to lord his position over his wife suppressing her. No it means he should so love his wife that he would be willing to give up his own desires for her welfare. In effect die of self for her, to become one flesh with her. Thus feeding her desires is feeding his. But there is also a requirement of the wife, she is to allow him to make that decision not to try to force her will upon him. Suppression of women only comes when men put their interest above the welfare of the wife, that is they fail to love the wife as Christ loved the church. The failure here is not in God’s command it is in our human failure to properly apply it. EdB |
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4837 | How literal do we go? | 1 Pet 3:1 | EdB | 124522 | ||
joyduncan I think your taking the Hollywood version of how women were treated in Judaism and later Christianity. Read Proverbs 31 and tell me the woman here was a Taliban woman. Read the stories of Mary and Martha or any of the women that followed Jesus as he travel throughout Israel and tell me they were Taliban women. Remember what we see in the middle east today is not the result of Judaism or Christianity but rather a man made religion Islam. Also know that women's condition did not sink to the state until nearly 500 years later when Islam was invented. We can't expect Jesus or Paul to address issues that never existed. Later we see nearly same conditions for women happen in Europe and America. Why ignorance of God's word. Men read a passage that said women should be silent, women should be in submission and that was enough for them. Had the same passages used men instead of women you would have seen how quick they would have been to put them rightly in context. :-) Again I think you view of slavery is through the eyes of Hollywood and cases of mistreatment. The word slavery to use means whips and chains, families torn apart, women raped and children abused. This is not slavery by rather man's abuse of another called slavery. All of that is clearly condemned in scripture. Read the scriptures on the treatment of slaves. On the issue of slaves neither Jesus nor his Apostles ever spoke against slavery only the mistreatment of slaves. In fact slaves are admonished to work and serve their master well in scripture. In some cases we call slavery good. In Germany after the war, the people in the neighboring towns were forced into slavery to clean up the Concentration Camps burying the death and cleaning up the filth. We call that good and justified it by saying now they can never deny it. The scriptures also speak against enslaving ourselves. Which is very common is society today. Anyone that has a mortage or loan is in fact enslaved to the lien holder. EdB |
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4838 | So should your wife wear a headcovering? | 1 Pet 3:1 | EdB | 124527 | ||
Tim You said, "A cultural argument should be used only sparingly and where Scripture supports such an interpretation." I say it is a slippery slope wherever it is used. Today we see the same tactic being used by the homosexual community. As for the headcovering issue what is a women's head covering? 1 Cor. 11:15 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering. Perhaps rather than dismissing this as merely a Jewish custom we should read it in context with 1 Cor. 11:15 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering. Perhaps Paul was saying women who have haircuts in an attempt to imitate men should not try to appear righteous. As for meat offered to idols, your right we don’t have many physical idols but how many lives are destroyed eating meat offered to the idol of more material worth, more power, more notoriety? Instead of dismissing we need to seek the truth in what the passage is saying. Not hunt for a legalistic law but rather the life lesson God is teaching us. EdB |
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4839 | So should your wife wear a headcovering? | 1 Pet 3:1 | EdB | 124607 | ||
Tim Tim I don’t think I ever said there weren't cultural issues discussed in scripture, if I did or that was the impression I left, let me clear it up right now there ARE cultural issues in the Bible.. We don't carry wineskins and mill our wheat with oxen. What I’m saying is that scripture is explained away far to many times using, “the well this pertained to the culture of the day and since we don't do thus and such it doesn't pertain to us today.” To that I say hogwash. Here is a cultural precept that was given and is accepted, don't muzzle the ox that grinds the wheat. Instead of merely explaining it away as a cultural thing of the time and we need not worry about it now. We instead looked for the more universal meaning and realized this was an analogy that reinforced another precept that a work man is due his hire. Yet we try to dismiss issues like women be silent in church as dealing with a cultural issue which is doing a disservice to scripture and to women. I believe the man did very little research into what may the scripture be really talking about since it was against women and didn’t effect men. Later as the issue became Politically incorrect another understanding had to be found and found quick. Again very little study was used but great amounts of imagination. Context was ignored and someone envisioned the Puritan church where men and women were separated and hence for a women to ask a question of her husband she would have to shout across the church. This satisfied most “deep’ thinkers and became universally accepted. However the first century church was not a Puritan church at all but rather private dwelling. Women mingled with men. There was no reason to disrupt the church by hollering anywhere. I have given a viable explanation of this precept in another post and won’t bore our readers with repeating it. In the examples you gave with the exception of meat for idols all were Old Testment law of which we are no longer under. As for spiritualizing offerings to idols, I don't think so. I know many people that their job, or home, or children, or possessions have become their idol. I have also witnessed people that have prayed what I would term demonic prayers over their food as a form of offering that we would succeed in their quest for more power, more money, more fame. I sorry we do disagree I say when a precept is given we need to rightly understand how that precept effects us today and not discard it as merely addressing a cultural issue of the day. EdB |
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4840 | Still looking for black and white | 1 Pet 3:1 | EdB | 124610 | ||
joyduncan How about a seminary professor? The line is drawn and it is very clear, but people don't want to see it. 2 Tim. 3:16-17 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, [17] that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Notice it doesn't say oh by the way God threw some rules in that only pertained to the church in Corth or only to the first century church. It says "all" scripture has a purpose today, yesterday and tomorrow. I gave this example to Tim Moran. 1 Cor. 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain…" Boy we sure don't dismiss that scripture as only pertaining to the culture 2000 years ago, even though we don't have oxen nor do we use them to grind our grain. How come? Because this one effects man and pastors in particular. Boy we homed right in on the real meaning here. When I hear a speaker dismiss a precept of scripture as only pertaining to a particular time or place and (this is very important to the discussion) where context clearly does not support that conclusion I usually stop listening and find some other way to edify myself. Usually they are men that have done little study of the issue and have heard what they consider a plausible remedy for the puzzle and they are merely parroting that explanation. Inductive Bible study stresses context context and context. Plus we have to read the Bible as not as if we are trying to find out what we can get away with but as information for our own best interests. EdB |
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