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4941 | Is it internal or limited external? | Mic 6:6 | EdB | 13150 | ||
I agree with Nolan number 1 is the closest however we have to remember what you call external ceremonial is what was required for forgiveness of sin under the Old Covenant. Unfortunately the people convoluted it and used it more as paying their dues. By that I mean if a person sinned against another he was to repent and offer a sin sacrifice and his sin would be atoned. Instead the people would sin against his neighbor and looked at the required sin sacrifice as almost the cost of doing business, there was no repentance. God through the prophet is saying what good is all the sacrifice if the heart remains unchanged. God was seeking people that held and lived the traits he mentioned in verse 8. We have the same situation today. People say they believe in Christ and yet they treat others as dogs. If they get caught they will say their sorry but in the their heart it is not more than the cost of doing business. Yet Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments. Today there is the gospel of easy believeism where what is taught is all you need to do is believe. However salvation requires repentance, repentance a change of attitude, and requires a change of heart. |
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4942 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 13134 | ||
JVH0212 IF I gave that impression again I'm sorry. All I was attempting to do was show that to a person of Islam a Christian is an infidel. The Quran teaches a true follower should have no regard for an infidel other than to attempt to convert them. I find that very poor foundation for a lasting friendship. Your right the American press will even call the disgusting act of sodomy normal if they stand to gain financially. |
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4943 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 13130 | ||
There please excuse my earlier append, I jumped with both feet. I had just read about another suicide bombing in Jerusalem and I let my flesh rather than my heart respond to you. What I said was correct but I said it in harsh rather than explaining terms. For that I apologize. Your right we can have Islamic friends but we have to remember if given the choice between serving Islam or an infidel, years of training in their religion will more than likely cause them take Islam. Islam is an all or nothing religion, they have no tolerance of any other belief, though they claim they do. When the Islamic hoards swept across the Middle East, Africa, Southern Europe the conquered people were given a choice, become a follower of Islam or die. Mohammed was very clear in his teaching of this principal and anyone that cares to study it can just by reading of the spread of Islam. It has been a current practice of Islam to reinvent itself in the last 20 to 30 years. They have successfully sold their “new” image to the press here in the US. However every so often the truth still surfaces and we see how truly brutal Islam really is. The Quran teaches the most retched of sinners should he died in a Jihad will go to heaven. Thus it is easy to recruit retched to strap nail encrusted explosives to their body and walk into the midst of innocent people and detonate the bomb. This is all done in the name of Allah. To Islam women are nothing more than chattel, each year hundreds of women are killed by husbands that are tired of them. The common way of getting rid of a tiring wife is to douse her down with white gas (commonly used in cooking) and ignite her. Then claim the cooking stove exploded. I have seen pictures of hospital wards filled with disfigured women that survived long enough to be photographed. This practice while outlawed is winked at by authorities in Islamic countries. Women are not worth the bother. People of Islam need our prayers that their eyes will be opened and they will see how brutal how manipulative their religion is and turn from that darkness to the light of Jesus Christ. Again I ask forgiveness for my first response to "there' in which I responded in a very unChrist like way. |
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4944 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 13124 | ||
This is a misconception of Islam. They are not a bunch of easy going take it or leave it believers. Their Quran teaches that anyone that is not a believer in Islam is an infidel. Infidels are to be treated thus, converted or eliminated. What kind of friendship exist where the person has to be converted or eliminated? How do you think Islam swept through the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and nearly Europe the way it did? The people were given a choice pray to Allah or die. What do you think the problem in Balkans is all about? For years the Muslims have been killing them, now that they have started killing Muslim everyone is against them. Look what is going on in African genocide. Muslims are killing Christians, raping the women and selling the children into slavery. If it was the other way with non Muslims doing the deed the press and media would be screaming at the top of their lungs. Look at Israel? Islam says Jews must die. There will never ever be peace there until the Antichrist reins in the Muslims. Do not be deceived Islam want you either Islamic or dead. Not a very warm friendship. Yes you may find someone that is your friend but if the day ever came they must chose between your friendship and Islam do not be surprised that they pick Islam, for you my friend are an infidel! | ||||||
4945 | Who? What? When? Where? How? Why? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 13077 | ||
JVH0212 to stay in the race I'll respond. You have the marvelous talent of taking nonsense and making it look even more ridiculous. Brother you make my day!!!! | ||||||
4946 | Why Papal rule all wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 12822 | ||
JVH0212 Maybe the Baptist and the AG’s was a bad example. I was more aiming at the American Baptist rather than the Southern but in any case I can honestly show you men that once voted into church office will never be removed. Who is virtually unaccountable to any other living human being. I can also show denominations that appoint pastors to the church and can they not be removed by anyone short of the denominational governing committee. I can show you ministries that answer to no one but themselves. I can show you denominations where the pastor must support and must answer to a governing board that is elected into office virtually for life. I did not say there was no difference between one man making the decisions and a board making decisions. However I have seen board controlled by one man that were merely rubber stamp approvals of what ever he wanted. JVH0212 I’m not defending papal rule. I’m simply asking is the end result of a papal decree versus a committee vote saying the denomination is going this way all that different? Is saying we have prayed and the Lord lead us to this decision therefore it not up to discussion all that much different than I prayed and now talk infallibly this is the way it is? End result they are both going in the direction handed down. JVH0212 this issue is not all that big if you remove the pulse quickening word infallible. Again JVH0212 please don’t read anything into what I’m saying. Can we not say once the decision is made, by whatever means, does it not have the same effect on the Catholic denomination as it does in most protestant denominations? If that be true does it make a whole lot of difference if one man makes the decision or it is made by a group of men that vote however the leader wants? John please don’t take this as a challenge or an attack but let it be fodder for thought. Bring on the Pepsi!!!! Love you my Brother Ed |
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4947 | Why Papal rule all wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 12820 | ||
JVH0212 your jumping in too deep and missing what I'm saying. Your right no Baptist or AG or any other protestant denomination that I'm aware has ever claimed to speak infallibly. What I’m saying is the governed committee what ever it is wields nearly the same authority the Pope does. They the governing committee however it is constructed says this is what we believe the scriptures to say and therefore this denomination holds those beliefs. How is that different than the Pope saying this is what the scriptures say and we Catholics are going to hold this belief? I’m not comparing the Baptist convention or the AG general Assembly to the Pope. What I’m saying is however the decision is made it basically holds the same effect. If AG or Baptist or Methodist decide the scriptures say march to the right they march to the right. If at a later time the same group says the scriptures say march to the left they march to the left. Is that so much different than the Pope saying the scriptures say march to the right or left? Is all I’m saying. By the way you say there is no protestant denomination that has men sitting in palace deciding what is to be done or not. How about men that sit in a office building you and I combined couldn’t even pay the electric bill for let alone ever be allowed in. That have men and women so entrenched in a good old boy system they couldn’t and wouldn’t be removed from office until they die. Sitting there deciding the direction for the church and issuing there findings as we interpret scripture to say thus and such. Isn’t that pretty close to the Vatican? Please don’t read any thing into what I’m saying. I’m certainly not condoning the Papal government nor am I saying the Catholic church is right. Love you my brother Ed |
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4948 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12792 | ||
Your absolutely correct. However faith does not require God to do anything. God will honor your faith if it is in agreement with His will and it leads to the fulfillment of His purpose. In other words God is in control, it is His will, His pleasure, that will be accomplished. Our job is to find out what God is doing and get into step with what he is doing, not the other way around. Our faith has to be that whatever God does, whatever things occur we can be sure God is in control and that God will make any situation work out to our good. It may not be to our liking but it will be to our good. More importantly our faith has to be in Christ Jesus and through Him we have life eternal. Take the Hebrew children for example. They went into fiery furnace not knowing if they would survive or not. Their faith told them however whatever occurred it would be to their good. It so happened at this point in time that it served God’s purpose to save them. Does that mean the saints that lit Nero’s garden with the flames from their body had less faith? No never! It means it served God’s purpose for them to die singing hymns of glory to God while their bodies were consumed by flames as a testimony that God can be glorified in death also. The instant they quit singing and died they were in the presence of God to their good. Their testimony helped make Christianity the state religion of Rome. See their death served God’s purpose. |
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4949 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12785 | ||
And I was right you are sitting under the Word of Faith teachings. How do I know because I was there. I also saw the lies. Leadership men and women claiming to never being sick as they go outside this country to seek treatment for such things as Prostate cancer or breast cancer. I have also witnessed first hand the devastation that occurs when the house of cards they have constructed collapses, and the formula doesn’t work. God moves at His pleasure not according to how your faith directs Him. | ||||||
4950 | Why Papal rule all wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 12784 | ||
Okay, staying away from the specific issues how is that different than the Baptist board saying to be baptized you must be immersed? Or the Pentecostal’s general boards saying the initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy spirit is speaking in tongues? Are they not claiming what could be considered divine interpretation of the Scripture? Are not their findings then viewed as infallible within the denomination? Take for example the Assemblies of God has had it a policy/rule/tenet of faith that no divorced man could ever become a Pastor. This rule has stood since 1912 and the founding of the denomination, yet this week in Kansas they voted it down. Before this change the claim was the divine will of God is that no divorced man should be a pastor. Now they say that isn’t right that God forgives any divorce that occurred before salvation. Isn’t just the same as the Pope declaring it is the divine will of God that no Catholic should use birth control? Again I know we can debate each issue but ignoring the issues look at the principal involved, isn’t it the same? Each one is saying they have a the “right’ interpretation of the scripture. The Catholics just say it is infallible, when we know it not Saint Christopher being an example. AG saying it is the correct interpretation and refusing to change it even after many challenges until this year. There are many more examples. |
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4951 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12783 | ||
Read it! Also read New Creation Realities and The Father and His family both by E. W. Kenyon. And all of Bosworth for that matter. Have you read Hanegraaff? I will guess not. You have been told it will steal your faith. Isn't interesting how we can be controlled while it appears we are being protected? Did you know Mr. E. W. Kenyon was up to his neck in the metaphysical? That is not rumor that is fact and if you don't see how that effected his teaching then you don't understand or appreciate the metaphysical philosophy. Your right we will never agree my God is the Sovereign Lord yours is one that must submit to your faith. Mine is true, yours was invented by the minds of men like Kenyon. |
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4952 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12775 | ||
Tracy it says all promises “in Him”. All the promises that were made in Him are fulfilled. Jesus was the fulfillment of the Messiah promises. This is not telling you can take any promise made anywhere in the Bible and claim it for yourself. Faith is required to make God happy. But our faith does not motivate God. Your faith that God is going to give you something does not make God give it to you. If He did He would be nothing more than a butler and you would be a spoiled brat. You can have faith all day for a car but that doesn’t make God give me you car. He might know you need to exercise and you need to walk, or he wants you to witness to the a car pool buddy. God has never promises your hearts desires he promised that “all things would work together for good of those who love God, to those called according to His purpose.” Rom 8:28 We do not control God nor are to be presumptuous. You quote Heb 11:6 that God is a rewarder of those the diligent seek him. Your not talking about seeking God here your talking about seeking what God will give you. There is a world of difference here. All the other verses you quoted refer clearly to promise of salvation, how do you take that to say he will honor for you a promise he made to Abraham about fathering a child when you 100? Now if God says he will provide YOU a car, then you need to have faith until you see that come to pass. Actually I got whatever “He pleases” from Psalm 115:3 But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. and Psalm 135:6 Whatever the LORD pleases, He does, In heaven and in earth, in the seas and in all deeps. Tracy as far as you proving we are heirs of Abraham your right and what are the blessings of Abraham? The Messiah and Salvation! Look at Hebrews 11 Abraham never even own a strip of land save the burial plot he bought for Sarah. Abraham was looking for the Messiah and Heaven not things of this life. He claimed to be a pilgrim and alien, that he didn’t belong on earth, his home, his treasure, his hope, was in heaven. And that my dear friend is what pleased God so much about Abraham. Tracy you have been feed bad theology and I suspect it is from Word of Faith teaching, you need to read Hank Hanegraaff’s book Christianity in Crisis. Believe me it will do you a world of good. Be Blessed and be a blessing Ed |
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4953 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12770 | ||
Joe your right there the Pentateuch is rich in wisdom, knowledge, and is of great value. I would say they are probably my favorite to read. Exodus always gives me a lesson if faith. I catch myself saying if I saw this or I saw that I would be so set on fire for God. Then I think about the children of Israel walking through a wall of water on dry ground and three days later asking if there is a God! Our belief has to be based on faith because even physical proof doesn't keep us convince once we can't see it again. | ||||||
4954 | Why does Paul say "not I, but the Lord"? | 1 Cor 7:10 | EdB | 12752 | ||
Both JVH0212 and Nolan offer excellent answers to this question. I particularly like Nolan’s Nelson Study Bible quote. JVH0212 you have no need in anyone assisting you, you are more than capable yourself. Both you guys be blessed Ed |
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4955 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12749 | ||
WDC be assured you have my prayers. It was nice dicussing this with you. Be blessed and be a blessing Ed |
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4956 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12746 | ||
WDC First of all questions like yours only come up in countries like United States. In Haiti where everyone is poor it isn't an issue. Only in the US do we worry about wealth and we are blessed above all nations in wealth. Our poorest person is hundred times better off than the richest person in some countries. That in itself ought to tell you something is wrong with this type of thinking. You also said everyone in the OT was rich, do you have any idea how many OT saints died in what we call poverty? None of us have to build a wall around our house to keep wild animals out at night. How many of use have lizards running around our houses, yet we know Solomon did. Better yet how many New Testament saints died in poverty. All of the Apostles gave up all earthly wealth to preach the gospel and all except John died horrible deaths besides. I never said there are no promises in the OT for us today. I simply said that if a promise is made to a particular person or nation or for a particular situation we would be wise in not trying to claim it for today. I gave the example Abraham, he was promised a son in his old age (100) does that mean that every man that lives to be 100 should expect to father a child? No. As far as taking things literal I’m with you. I think that is the only way to read the Bible, and one of things that is wrong in the church today is too many refuse to read it that way. There is a difference between reading the Bible literally and literally applying what you read to today. I have said it before and I will say it again. There are two classes of promises in the Bible, ‘specific’ and ‘general’. Specific was are promises made to a specific person, nation of people, or for a specific situation. General are for the Old Testament saints as well as the New Testament saints. Within the general classification is ‘conditional’ and ‘unconditional’ promises. Conditional promises are promise made based on a condition or expectation that God set down. Unconditional are just that without any strings attached. Again I pray this answers your questions Ed |
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4957 | 2 Cor. 1:20 | Romans | EdB | 12728 | ||
The 'in Him' is the key here. He saying the promises 'in Him', in the Messiah are yes and amen. What are those promises? Peace, joy, love goodness, forgiveness, salvation, sanctification, fellowship, hope, glorification and heaven, which are made possible by Christ Jesus. Verse 9-10 Paul is saying he is so sure he is going to dead for the gospel that he even pronounces this death sentence upon himself and adds his trust is not in his own flesh but in God. Paul’s use of the term “who raises from the dead” which is a Jewish term for God, which means his only hope is from God who can even raise the dead. Paul was certain God would preserve him until his work was accomplished. Paul’s focus is not on his body or physical promises but rather on accomplishing all that God has for him. Many places he shows almost contempt for any concern about his physical well being. To Paul it is not consideration. Yet he uses his suffering for a testimony to the church. He is saying CHURCH YOUR GOING TO SUFFER! However, like me (Paul) God will see you through it to enable you to accomplish what God wills for you. By being faithful you can expect the promises of the Messiah (as listed above) to be accomplished in your life. All this focus on promises for possession and wealth and such made to Israel runs contradictory to Hebrews 11:13-16. People that want to be comfortable here on earth are in effect calling this their home. If that be the case we then must take the inverse of Hebrew 11:16 and say God will be ashamed to be called their God. I pray this answers your questions Be blessed and be a blessing Ed |
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4958 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12710 | ||
Joe This does become sticky, and particularly with today’s teaching focusing on the material blessing promises to Israel. Any time you tell people they were meant to be rich, it excites the people and sells real well. People will come back for more and people coming back is what fills churches. However preaching and teaching a falsehood does not make a falsehood true. Yes your right there are spiritual truths that were given to Israel that apply to each of us today, just as some of the curses apply. But the teaching that we should read church every time it says Israel in the bible is just a falsehood. There are people that go out and walk around land claiming it for their own. That is nonsense! (now don’t everybody write to tell how it has happened that is nonsense) What makes anyone believe God will take one piece of land and give it to another? What happens if the land is owned by Godly people that are keeping to give to the a church? Is God going to take it from them to give to you to make you a land baron? Now if God tells you to go walk around a piece of land and claim it then the promise is to you and you should expect it to happen. Joe you brought up a point that many churches don’t teach the Old Testament and that is wrong. We are to teach and preach the whole Bible rightly dividing the Word of God and holding to the truths that are contained in both the Old and New Testament. However you observation is unique as I find many popular Pastors like to preach from the Old Testament. They find it easier to manipulate the Old Testament characters to their purpose |
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4959 | Which promises? | Romans | EdB | 12702 | ||
Tracy – You may stand there a long time, if it isn’t in the will of God to take that land from one person and give it to you. Never forget God is sovereign! He will promise and do as He pleases! Your right the promise to Abraham was to make him the father of many nations. And we are heirs to the blessings but again God has never promised you to be the father of any nation. Mother maybe :-). However you should not expect to start a family at the age of 90 as Sarah did, since that promise was to Sarah not you. Tracy this is just plain bad teaching that the promises in the Bible made to specific people or for a specific situation can be claimed today, it is just nonsense. You will stand by the Red Sea a long time holding a stick and never see it part. Or you can complain a long time about hunger and never see manna fall from heaven. You can go to the top of mount Sinai and fashion stone tablets but I submit you will wait a long time for God’s glory to descend upon the mountain and God to inscribe upon the tablets. Do you see the nonsense? One other consideration Tracy in the teaching about claiming promises, notice how it is always for physical betterment, the teachers never talk about how God tried the faithful men of the Old Testament by fire. It is part of the name and claim it, blab it and grab it, teaching that has become so popular. However it is without biblical basis. No where does the Bible say this principal exists. |
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4960 | Prerequisite-infallibility? | 1 Cor 12:27 | EdB | 12653 | ||
Charis, I have to butt in. Reference the minister asking for a new car then getting a young girl pregnant you ask was he independent or part of a denomination? What difference does it make? Both have their share of bad apples. I have witnessed these types to tragedies from both denomination and independent pastors. Be blessed and be a blessing Ed |
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