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6021 | Not a Handbook | Rev 22:9 | DocTrinsograce | 238555 | ||
"The Bible is one long story of God meeting our rebellion with His rescue, our sin with His salvation, our guilt with His grace, our badness with His goodness. The overwhelming focus of the Bible is not the work of the redeemed but the work of the Redeemer. Which means that the Bible is not first a recipe for Christian living but a revelation book of Jesus who is the answer to our un-Christian living." --Tullian Tchividjian (2013) | ||||||
6022 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158642 | ||
Dear Bows, Your first refernce speaks of the value of Scripture. Your second and third references speaks of an attirubte of God. Your fourth reference speaks of God's grace. Your fifth reference is a prophecy fulfilled at Pentecost. Your sixth reference is Peter quoting the fifth reference on the day the prophecy at Pentecost was fulfilled. Your seventh reference is about the gift of salvation. You've alsmost entirely failed to answer the question. The question was, "does God speak to us in dreams" not "can God speak to us in dreams." Bows, it has been explained, we believe in the authority of Scripture in this forum. We do not attempt to undermine that authority even by mishandling of the Scripture. Remember, please, that your use of the forum was predicated on your own support of this high view of Scripture. In Him, Doc |
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6023 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158666 | ||
Dear Mark, You wrote, "We know that the part about blood and fire and pillars of smoke, and the sun becoming black and the moon to blood has not been fulfilled, at least not as history records." There are many prophecies that "split" things. Daniel, for example, accurately predicts the coming of the messiah right down to the year, then, in the same prophecy, he predict the coming of the antichrist. Although a Preterist would not agree, I believe that we have not yet seen the antichrist, although more time has passed since the time of Christ than passed between the time of Christ and Daniel. Prophecy is like looking out over mountains. Two mountain peaks may appear ahead, but until you arrive at the first one, you might not realize that the second is still much farther ahead. Consequently, a "split" prophecy does not invalidate one mountain peak over another. If God can transmit His word faithfully through sixty-six books, some forty authors, spanning millenia, is it a difficult thing for Him to have arranged that the passage in Revelation 22 would contain the closing statements of John? Indeed, chronologically, those words were penned last of all. You wrote, "I do not believe that dreams rate higher than scripture." That is good. The question should then come to mind, what more do we need than Scripture? If it contains all that we need (the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture), then why would we look to anything else? Mishandling of Scripture can take place when one strings unrelated passages together in order to make it say something it does not say. This is called eisegesis. We are commanded to rightly divide the word of Truth. That Greek word means to cut a straight line. You wrote, "...whether or not we should discount any possibility of God speaking to us in a dream..." The question is not whether He can, but whether He does. Certainly He has the capability. Again, study the question of the closing of the canon. Look at those who still think it is open, and look at what they all have in common. You wrote, "what should be our scriptural response if we dream a dream that seems to be from God?" Now that is a useful question! First of all, for me personally, I'd discount it entirely. However, I'd encourage others to dig it out of the Scriptures. If the "message" is not affirmed in Scripture, chuck the dream. If the "message" is affirmed in Scripture, chuck the dream and hang onto Scripture! (After all, God puts it above His own name!) The Scripture is sure. Dreams can have all kinds of sources, from Satan, to self, to salsa! In Him, Doc |
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6024 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158667 | ||
Dear Brother Mark, I mean to say that God has spoken. Revelation is closed. We live by EVERY word of God and He has -- graciously -- provided everything we need. I'd take one verse of Scripture over a million dreams! The closing of the canon (431 AD) was not an aribitrary decision by Christians, it had already occurred. They were simply stating it in a formal fashion in order to deal with heresy. A kind of heresy that we are surrounded by in this day and age. For example, do a Google search on "latter day saints continuing revelation." In Him, Doc |
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6025 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158734 | ||
Hi, Serras... Thank you for relating your experiences. Please understand, however, we are a Study Bible Forum, rather than a Study Experience Forum. Experiences are notoriously misleading and, as often as not, are misinterpreted. Satan can and does cause experiences. However, "the supreme judge, by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Scripture delivered by the Spirit, into which Scripture so delivered, our faith is finally resolved. (Matthew 22:29, 31, 32; Ephesians 2:20; Acts 28:23)"* Furthermore, "the authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, dependeth not upon the testimony of any man or church [or dream or vision], but wholly upon God (who is truth itself), the Author thereof; therefore it is to be received because it is the Word of God. (2 Peter 1:19-21; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 John 5:9)"** You see, to say that our experiences, dreams, or visions affirm the Scripture, is a repudiation of veracity of God. In essence, when we say such things, we are deriving Scriptural authority from those human experiences. Think of it this way: Would the Word of God be less true if our experiences, dreams, or visions contradicted it? "God forbid! Let God be true, but every experience a liar!" In Him, Doc *LBCF 1689, chapter 1, paragraph 10. **Ibid, chapter 1, paragraph 4. |
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6026 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158805 | ||
Dear Mark, I'll have to respond to your other posts later. No I wasn't suggesting that you had done that. I was referring back to Bows post. In HIm, Doc |
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6027 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158811 | ||
Dear Brother Mark, Yes, I understood that you did. I was explaining that particular form of eisegesis. The question was not resolved, nor was it very directly addressed -- although the argument is not an uncommon one for those who assume the existence of extra-biblical revelation. Even if the conclusion is correct, that doesn't make the means at which it was arrived sound hermeneutics. Probably we should take some time to define our terms. Not sure, exactly, why this is such an issue with folks. Makes me mindful of arguing the relative merits of a broken unicycle when a brand-new, fully-loaded Jaguar is at hand! :-) Sorry, have to run to class. Hopefully I'll have more time to respond tomorrow. In Him, Doc |
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6028 | Does God speak to us in dreams today? | Rev 22:18 | DocTrinsograce | 158835 | ||
Mark, Patience, dear brother. :-) Give me a little time, I'll show how the argument offered was eisegetical. As I said before, even if the conclusion is correct, that alone is not sufficient to justify the mishandling of Scripture. There are many forms of cessationism. The word shouldn't disturb you. We might examine the various viewpoints, including the position on the the other side that holds to extra-biblical revelation. However, we need to be careful not to muddy the waters. Breathe deep, Mark... remember, we deliberate carefully and calmly, being sure we can properly articulate the other person's argument. Then we weight the evidence and decide for ourselves. That isn't a threatening thing. It is a blessed thing! It is a loving thing! Even if we walk away with differing conclusions. We'll have all of eternity where our opinions will be in perfect synchronization! :-) In HIm, Doc |
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6029 | Have you seen His grace in your life? | Rev 22:21 | DocTrinsograce | 171060 | ||
Dear Don, A blessed testimony! Pray for those of us who have not had such an experience. As you pointed out, what you have learned is a lesson all believers should learn. In Him, Doc |
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