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401 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159915 | ||
Hi, Mark... Doesn't 1 John 4:3 suggest that denying the work, character, and authority of the Lord Jesus Christ is a form of anti-Christ? If not in the apocolyptic sense, at least in the literal sense? In Him, Doc |
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402 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159940 | ||
Hi, Mark... The work of the Son is in His coming in the flesh. His character and authority stem both from God, and from the Holy Spirit. In addition, His authority is further attested to in the title of "Christ." We could draw further conclusions from the title of Son. Although I haven't dug into this epistle for quite a while, I am certain that if we drew from it all that it said about the Lord Jesus Christ, we could derive the full doctrine of Who He was and what He did. Especially, considering the primary reason that John wrote this epistle. Muhammad had some exposure to Arianists, so his understanding of Christology was pretty muddled. Long and short of it is that the Qur'an denies pretty much everything of the Scripture but the most superficial facts about our Lord. Such denials are, strictly speaking, anti (against) Christ. Which is in keeping with John's use of the term. (By the way, he is the only one in Scripture to actually use the word.) Sorry for giving such a hasty response. With a bit more time and thought, I'm sure we could get a clearer picture and establish the argument on even firmer footing. In Him, Doc |
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403 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159957 | ||
Hi, David... That is right... and Hebrews 4:10 says, "For He that is entered into His rest, He also hath ceased from His own works, as God did from His." God entered His rest after His work on the Sabbath. Christ entered His rest after His work on the first day of the week. This passage, therefore, affirms what Livingtree was asserting. In Him, Doc |
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404 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159963 | ||
This has been discussed ad nauseum on the forum before. Please avail yourself of the search function. | ||||||
405 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159976 | ||
Just to balance things out a bit so we don't get denominationaly too one sided... :-) "As it is the law of nature, that, in general, a due proportion of time be set apart for the worship of God; so, in his Word, by a positive, moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men in all ages, he hath particularly appointed one day in seven, for a Sabbath, to be kept holy unto him:[Exodus 20:8, 10-11; Isaiah 56:2, 4, 6-7] which, from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ, was the last day of the week; and, from the resurrection of Christ, was changed into the first day of the week,[Genesis 2:2-3; 1 Corinthians 16:1-2; Acts 20:7] which, in Scripture, is called the Lord’s day,[Revelation 1:10] and is to be continued to the end of the world, as the Christian Sabbath.[Exodus 20:8, 10; Matthew 5:17-18]." --Westminster Confession of Faith 1664, chapter XXI, paragraph VII "As it is the law of nature, that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, be set apart for the worship of God, so by his Word, in a positive moral, and perpetual commandment, binding all men, in all ages, he hath particularly appointed one day in seven for a sabbath to be kept holy unto him, which from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ was changed into the first day of the week, which is called the Lord's day: and is to be continued to the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week being abolished. (Exodus 20:8; 1 Corinthians 16:1, 2; Acts 20:7; Revelation 1:10)" --London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689, chapter 22, paragraph 7 "Q. What does God require in the fourth commandment? "A. First, that the ministry of the gospel and the schools be maintained[1] and that, especially on the day of rest, I diligently attend the church of God[2] to hear God's Word,[3] to use the sacraments,[4] to call publicly upon the LORD,[5] and to give Christian offerings for the poor.[6] Second, that all the days of my life I rest from my evil works, let the LORD work in me through His Holy Spirit, and so begin in this life the eternal sabbath.[7] "[1] Deut. 6:4-9; 20-25; I Cor. 9:13, 14; II Tim. 2:2; 3:13-17; Tit. 1:5. [2] Deut. 12:5-12; Ps. 40:9, 10; 68:26; Acts 2:42-47; Heb. 10:23-25. [3] Rom. 10:14-17; I Cor. 14:26-33; I Tim. 4:13. [4] I Cor. 11:23, 24. [5] Col. 3:16; I Tim. 2:1. [6] Ps. 50:14; I Cor. 16:2; II Cor. 8 and 9. [7] Is. 66:23; Heb. 4:9-11." --Heidelberg Catechism, Question 103 You also left out this quote from the Augsburg Confession (1530), "Of this kind is the observance of the Lord's Day, Easter, Pentecost, and like holy-days and rites. For those who judge that by the authority of the Church the observance of the Lord's Day instead of the Sabbath-day was ordained as a thing necessary, do greatly err. Scripture has abrogated the Sabbath-day; for it teaches that, since the Gospel has been revealed, all the ceremonies of Moses can be omitted. And yet, because it was necessary to appoint a certain day, that the people might know when they ought to come together, it appears that the Church designated the Lord's Day for this purpose; and this day seems to have been chosen all the more for this additional reason, that men might have an example of Christian liberty, and might know that the keeping neither of the Sabbath nor of any other day is necessary." You have also used the word "Catholic" in your post as synonymous with "Roman Catholic." Sunday worship originated in the church before the Roman Catholic Church came into existence (cf Acts 20:7). The word "catholic" simply means "universal." In Him, Doc |
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406 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159983 | ||
Church, little c... Now, if you wouldn't mind, we'd all be quite interested in discussing other things. As I said, this has been discussed on the forum -- usually by fans of Ellen White -- so often that there is nothing more that can be said. |
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407 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 160029 | ||
Hi, Jimmy... Look more closely at what I was saying. Sorry it wasn't clear. I was not suggesting that one genre of Scripture should be read more literally than another. We read history as literal history, poetry as literal poetry, etc. etc. (That written, remember that apocalyptic writing is intended to be unclear by the very nature of the genre (cf Daniel 12).) We have an unscriptural, cultural definition for the word "Anti-Christ" that is apocalyptic. However, It only occurrs in the epistles of John. In those passages, it is not used in an apocalyptic sense (1 John 2:18; 2:22; 4:3; 2 John 1:7), since he says in three of the four verses that anti-christ is "already in the world." In Him, Doc |
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408 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 160043 | ||
Dear Jimmy, If that is true, then we must conclude that the men who penned these writings were not wise. :-) Personally, I don't get a whole lot out of apocalyptic writing. I'm also convinced there is an unhealthy (spiritually) over curiosity about such things. See, too often, it requires wading out above our heads in order to interpret it... whereas there is so much other stuff that we can state definitively elsewhere in Scripture, spending a lifetime at its study, and never plumb the depths. (Sorry for mixing metaphors.) I think it was Goeth that said, "Grant me the benefit of your convictions, I have enough doubts of my own!" :-) In Him, Doc |
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409 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 160111 | ||
Dear Jimmy, Yes, of course, I believe the verbal plenary inspiration of the Scriptures. However, not every word of Scripture was written for the same purpose. Indeed, as the old divines put it, "The Holy Scripture is the only sufficient, certain, and infallible rule of all saving knowledge, faith, and obedience;" and "The whole counsel of God concerning all things necessary for His own glory, man's salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down or necessarily contained in the Holy Scripture." Consequently, I'm happy to leave the unprovable speculations of what will be to the dispensationalists. One thing is for certain, when prophecy is fulfilled, it is clear that it is fulfilled prophecy. That's when I'll be lief to take a stand! :-) In Him, Doc |
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410 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162235 | ||
Dear Atdcross... You wrote, "One who gives mercy in one hand does not bring suffering with the other." This is contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture. For whom the Lord loves, He disciplines, and whips every son whom He receives." (Hebrews 12:6 LITV) You have to bring all Scripture to bear on a given subject if you are going to be sound in your exegesis. Otherwise you will perpetuate the kind of false doctrine found in your number 3 statement. In Him, Doc |
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411 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162261 | ||
Hi, Atdcross... Do I understand that you are saying 1. God will not afflict the believer who is right with Him. 2. God will afflict the believer who is not right with Him. Have I expressed your position accurately? In Him, Doc |
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412 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162316 | ||
Dear Atdcross... So you deem that believers that are sick or raped are "not walking right" with God? In Him. Doc |
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413 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162343 | ||
Dear Atdcross, So, you deem that since suffering is not God's intention, it is beyond His ability to assuage, but is rather a matter of "misfortune?" However, if I understand correctly, if a believer experiences "sickness or rape" we may know that he is not "right with God?" In Him, Doc |
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414 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162347 | ||
Dear Atdcross, I'm not working today. Consequently, I have a chance to answer. I don't think you've thought through your theology on this, you may be expressing a view that you've heard. For example, the Word of Faith folks commonly take a similar stance. From the Scriptures you might take time to consider: God tears, heals, smites, binds up (Hos 6:1); devours like a lion (Hosea 13:8); wounds, afflicts, strikes, bruises, smites, makes sore, heals, kills, makes alive (Deut 32:39; 1 Sam 2:6; Jer 31:28; Job 5:18; Isa 53:10); forms the light, creates and causes darkness (Isa 45:7; Jer 13:16; Ex 10:21; 14:10); makes peace, makes the dumb, deaf, seeing, blind (Ex 4:11); sends sore judgments upon Jerusalem -- the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast -- (Ezek 14:21); sends an evil spirit (Judges 9:23, 1 Sam 16:14; 18:10; 19:9-10); sends evil angels (Ps 78:49), shoots arrows and darts, breaks bones (Lam 3:12-13; Num 24:8-9; Deut 32:22); heaps mischief upon people (Deut 32:23); breaks in pieces horses, nations, chariots, rider, men, women, the young, the old, the young man, the maiden, shepherds, flocks, husbandman/yoke of oxen, captains/rulers (Jer 51:20-23); turns men to destruction (Psalms 90:3); is as a moth and rottenness (Hos 5:12); feeds and makes drunk with worm wood, gives the water of gall to drink (Lam 3:15; Jer 9:15); creates and brings evil/calamities (Isa 45:7, Jer 18:8, Job 2:10, Amos 3:6); creates the day of prosperity and the day of calamity (Ecc 7:14). etc. There are many more instances in Scripture that indicate that God is fully Sovereign. In a general sense all suffering is the consequence of sin. However, we are not given the insight to assert that a given example of suffering is always associated with that person's sin. Jesus dealt with this several times in His ministry (Luke 13:1-5, John 9:1-3, etc.) This particular branch of theology we call "theology proper," the study of God Himself. In Him, Doc "Nothing happens by chance or outside the sphere of God's providence. As God is the First Cause of all events, they happen immutably and infallibly according to His foreknowledge and decree, to which they stand related. Yet by His providence God so controls them, that second causes, operating either as fixed laws, or freely, or in dependence upon other causes, play their part in bringing them about. (Gen 8:22; Prov 16:33; Acts 2:23)" --London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689 (chapter 5, paragraph 2) "God's almighty power, unsearchable wisdom, and infinite goodness are so far-reaching and all-pervading, that both the fall of the first man into sin, and all other sinful actions of angels and men, proceed according to His sovereign purposes. It is not that He gives His bare permission, for in a variety of ways He wisely and powerfully limits, orders and governs sinful actions, so that they effect His holy designs. Yet the sinfulness involved in the actions proceeds only from angels and men and not from God who, being most holy and righteous, neither is nor can be the author or approver of sin. (Gen 50:20; 2 Sam 24:1; 2 Kings 19:28; 1 Chron 21:1; Psalm 50:21; 76:10; Isa 10:6,7,12; Rom 11:32-34; 1 John 2:16)" Ibid (chapter 5, paragraph 4) "The Sovereignty of God is the stumbling block on which thousands fall and perish; and if we go contending with God about His sovereignty it will be our eternal ruin. It is absolutely necessary that we should submit to God as an absolute sovereign, and the sovereign of our souls; as one who may have mercy on whom He will have mercy and harden whom He will" --Jonathan Edwards "There is no sphere of existence over which Jesus is not sovereign, in virtue of His role both in creation (Col 1:16-17) and in reconciliation (Col 1:18-20). There can be no dualistic division between some areas which He rules and others which He does not." --N. T. Wright "It is not merely that God has the power and right to govern all things but that He does so always and without exception." --John Piper |
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415 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162773 | ||
Dear Atdcross, You have disagreed with orthodox confessions, theologians, the Scriptures which I have cited, plus the doctrines of the apostles. It is your turn to cite Scriptures that state that God is limited -- or even limits Himself -- to do with His children as He pleases. You have a presupposition that suffering is punitive, rather than sanctifying. You wrote, "Please allow me at this point ot make it clear that I am not attempting to influence anyone to my views." (sic) Then why hold a view if you do not believe it to be true for everyone? If you believe that every person's view is equally valid, then you believe in pluralism. The Scriptures do not support this view at all. Be willing to contend for the truth. Care enough for the truth to be willing to be wrong. Care enough for me to be willing to correct my error. Our contention is not about being right or wrong. We wrestle because we hold a high view of truth, like that of our Father! In Him, Doc |
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416 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162814 | ||
Dear Atdcross, As Kalos has pointed out, the onus of responsibility is to show where they erred in their interpretation of Scripture. They've done their homework, now do yours. Scripture, son, dig into the Scripture! In Him, Doc |
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417 | WHY!!!!!!!!!???????????? | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162815 | ||
Hi, Brother Brad... I meant my questions to be rhetorical in response to the Neo's questions. :-) In Him, Doc |
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418 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162833 | ||
Dear Atdcross, You wrote, "are being made or, at least, implied about me and my relationship with God?" Where do you see that? Please cite a specific post so that it can be remedied. In Him, Doc |
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419 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162850 | ||
Dear Brother Mark, For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. (Hebrews 12:6) This is an example of synonymous parallelism, which we shouldn't find unusual in a book addressed to Hebrews. I've heard it said that chastening is rooted in the more emotional or mental discipline, whereas scourging refers to discipline that is meted out in the form of physical maladies. Had you ever heard that before? I'm unsure where it originated. The silence on the subject tends to make me think it is rooted in someone's imagination rather than the intent of the writer of Hebrews himself. Albert Barnes writes on this verse stating, "This is also a quotation from Proverbs 3. It means that it is a universal rule that God sends trials on those whom He truly loves. It does not, of course, mean that He sends chastisement which is not deserved; or that He sends it 'for the mere purpose' of inflicting pain. That cannot be. But it means that by His chastisements He shows that He has a paternal care for us. He does not treat us with neglect and unconcern, as a father often does his illegitimate child." Nevertheless, it troubles me to hear in some circles that sickness or "misfortune" is rooted in some sort of spiritual defect. God forbid that we place that kind of guilt on people! It is clearly not warranted by Scripture. Indeed, it would appear quite the contrary from this passage: if everything is going well, then perhaps it is time to worry about your relationship with the Father! In Him, Doc PS My dear wife was previously married. Her husband died of a genetically inherited disease of the liver. After his funeral her pastor told her that she had been widowed because she lacked the appropriate amount of faith for her husband to have been healed. What rubbish is touted these days, and in such ignorance of the Word! What needless doubt and fear is sown! |
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420 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 162865 | ||
Dear Brother Mark, Thank you... you have a great weekend too. I trust you brother... but I shall trust the Lord Himself to give you the faith as He has seen fit! ;-) In Him, Doc |
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