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1521 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | BradK | 123739 | ||
Tim, Your point is well taken. You're right, we do need to distinguish between proscriptive and descriptive! And yes, this is a much debated issue! Our church elders spent much time over 2 years ago discussing this. We had- at that time- female deacons. Some of our elders sided on the cultural-side of this matter. I do believe that it rules out a female pastor- one in a leadership role with authority over men-, but not someone who teaches Sunday school or was a visiting speaker, etc. As always, your perspective is appreciated:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1522 | Biblical - women preachers/teachers??? | 1 Tim 2:12 | BradK | 123732 | ||
Searcher, I think brother EdB made a good point as well as yourself! I agree based upon the grammar of the passages you cited. Since they are masculine- I believe it is as God intended. The relevant Doctrinal passages in 1 Timothy and Titus are all masculine nouns. I've never bought the "cultural" thing because of this. It becomes an issue of submission- not a popular word these days. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1523 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123562 | ||
knucklehead, I think we're playing Ping-Pong here:-) We really need to define terms and answer SPECIFIC questions before I continue on in and endless debate! Proof-texting is not my idea of a fruitful discussion. Your serve! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1524 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123554 | ||
knuckle head, I believe Paul answered this question in Romans 7:24-25a "Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord..." The better question is "Does not God's grace far outweight my sin and shame?" It is "In Him (that) we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace.." (Eph. 1:7) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1525 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123551 | ||
knucklehead, No, I don't believe that John 3:36 is a caution against losing one's salvation. It is simply denoting that eternal life is based upon "belief" in the Son and that "unbelief", wrath or eternal separation from God. I think you're reading too much into the text:-) In answer to your query "Are you saying that such reliance cannot cease for someone "saved?" I'm not saying so much that someone's reliance could not cease, but rather what examples can you provide to demonstate that this has happened? "Let me ask you this: At what point then is one saved, and conversely at what point does someone lose their salvation? (cf Tit. 3:5) By the way, I DO BELIEVE! I have placed my faith in the One who is faithful, the Lord Jesus Christ. It is on Him that my eternity rests and Him alone. The more fruitful disposition of this debate might be better left to the "Search" function of this Forum. I'm thoroughly convinced that your arguments will not cause me to change my beliefs at this point:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1526 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123545 | ||
knuchlehead, You ask "If we are already saved, why would Satan bother with us? He should move on to someone not yet saved and try to prevent him from being such." For starters, scripture tells that he does! We have several references, such as 2 Cor. 2:11, 11:14, Eph. 6:11-12, 16, and 1 Peter 5:8. If these are not referring to believers, who then? They most certainly are! The important thing to remeber, is that our battle is a spiritual one, not a physical one (Eph. 6:12). Who is our spiritual enemy (opponent) but satan! I don't think satan's goal is just to prevent unbelievers from becoming believers. Who is more of a threat- a believer spreading the gospel- or a non-believer living a worldly existence? In my experience, it is the effective believer- someone being used of God- that is the bigger threat and target for satan! The more impact one is having for the Lord, the bigger the target they become. You just need to follow the Christian Media to note the casualties. A few years back, here in the Pacific Northwest, the Pastor of the largest Protestant congregation was forced to resign over allegations of child-molestation. I don't think that was a result of satan moving on to prevent someone not yet saved. Satan took down a large, threatening target to himself and his lies. As C.S. Lewis has said, two errors we make regarding satan are: 1. Giving him too much credit; 2. Not giving him enough credit Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1527 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123479 | ||
knucklehead, You say "Our salvation is a hope. Although a guarantee, is not possessed until God provides it. He has furnished the means, but only those that have endured to the end will be saved. (Matt 24:13) It is thus “acquired." Though this is an age-old argument, I must take strong issue on this comment for two reasons: 1. I do not in any way see that the context of Matt. 24:13 is speaking to our salvation; 2. To intimate that we must endure and it is thus aquired places the emphasis upon MY WORKS to secure salvation. Thus a works based salvation- contrary to the teaching of scripture! Certainly our salvation is more than just a hope! As Tim indicated, eternal life has a past, present and future aspect- but it is non-the-less secure In Christ! "If our salvation was already here, we would lack the basis for faith that is essential for endurance." No, just the opposite. Our basis for faith is "because the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing (teaching) us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,..." ( Titus 2:11-12) Our hope is found in verse 13, "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus" Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1528 | Is the quote presumptuous? | John 6:44 | BradK | 123478 | ||
knucklehead, While I think you place more emphasis upon works in salvation, your point is understood. However, your point that "If saved already, he's mistaken and wasting his time" needs some clarification. You seem to be indicating that salvation is not a completed fact (or secure)? You're not saying that satan doesn't attack believers are you? For what is Paul's thrust in Eph. 6:10-18, if he's not addressing "To the saints...". "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1529 | I Tim 2:12 Paul's opinion or God's Word? | 1 Tim 2:12 | BradK | 123369 | ||
Rowdy, I must joint both Steve and Searcher on this one! This is more than just a "disagreement". This goes to the very core of the authority of God's word. Brother, I certainly don't believe you to be intentional in your error, however I feel you remiss and even careless to say such a thing.(Prov.9:9). You've had 2, and now 3 brothers approach you in the spirit of Matt. 18:16 to show you the error of your ways. I would counsel you to strongly consider the advice and be a little more careful in your posts:-) And I am, Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1530 | Connection between Daniel 9:11 and US? | Dan 9:11 | BradK | 123366 | ||
GAK1, You are correct that God is no respector of persons, however, the question becomes "Is He judging us Individually or nationally today?". There a certain inevitable consequences for one's actions, both individually and corporately.This also does in no way excuse sinful behavior. I don't see that God is "judging us a nation" based upon John 5:22 "“For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,".(cf vs. 27-29) Biblically, we (individually) have been judged and declared guilty before God (Rom. 3:23). And, Christ is the atoning sacrifice for our sins. With reference to any judgement (specifically NT), I believe they are future as per Rom. 14:10, 2 Cor. 5:10, and Rev. 20:11. Philosophically, what about Communist Russia or China who have murdered Tens of Millions (if not more) of their own people? Would they not be subject to more severe "judgment"? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1531 | God and gods? | Matt 11:11 | BradK | 123289 | ||
Tim, I'll second your wise words. Again, this is a Christian Study Bible Forum and as such it has specifically posted guidelines to be followed. It is not a chat-room or Debate Forum. 1. The Lockman Foundation has their Doctrinal Statement which I would think anyone should be in agreement with, initially; 2. There is a specifically posted warning at the top of the Home Page; 3. Before submitting a post, there is a further checklist given "To adhere to StudyBibleForum's intended purpose" My feeling is that any prudent person should do their due diligence to understand what the "rules of the game are" BEFORE posting. One is giving tacit approval to their acknowledgement of these when submitting a post. Ignorance is no excuse, because the Word of God is not to be handled lightly nor adulterated (2 Cor.4:2). Yes, we should always respond in love, yet how much "grace" do you give someone who is in open violation of the rules? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1532 | "Least in the kingdom of God"? | Matt 11:11 | BradK | 123270 | ||
Ralph2, The reason Emmaus was not called to back off JW rhetoric is that you are in violation of posted Forum guidelines. You might want to familiarize yourself with both the posted guidleines AND the Lockman Foundations Doctrinal Statement. One of the majoe ones is that the post is not an attack on the Diety of Jesus Christ! My friend, Jesus left absolutely NO option that He was a mere teacher! He is either, Lord, liar, or a lunatic to paraphrase C.S. Lewis. But let's not patronize ourselves with the notion that He left that in doubt. He did not ( John 14:6). Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1533 | Why we don't have Ps 151 in our Bible? | Ps 150:1 | BradK | 123167 | ||
kalos, Thanks for the info. I had a suspicion, but don't have my normal Software with the Apocrypha at my office:-) It does look like it is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls? BradK |
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1534 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | BradK | 123147 | ||
EdB, Here are my follow up thoughts to your question regarding the Doctrine of Eternal Security. Though this will certainly not be the final say on this matter, it will hopefully address at least some of your questions. My personal thought is to distinguish between salvation (our calling) and our resultant works. 1. Paul tells us in Eph. 4:1 to “have a walk worthy of our calling”. I don’t think our calling is in question but rather our walk or testimony. 2. Gal. 5:16 commands for us “to walk in the Spirit”, implying that we can chose not to. 3. Rom. 12:21 warns us “Do not be overcome be (the) evil. I think this implies that we can. Again, I don't see our salvation in jeopardy, but our walk. Certainly we don’t want to disqualify, taint, or tarnish our testimony so as to disqualify us ( 1 Cor. 9:27). While our standing, I believe is secure, our testimony or witness may not be, i.e. Jimmy Swaggart. I believe that is why we have so many scriptures admonishing us to order our lives and walk in such described manners. As Dr. Dale Johnsen writes on this matter he says "So, let me begin by defining my terms. By "eternal security", I mean that God guarantees us that our salvation, once truly received, lasts forever and cannot be lost. I mean that eternal life is a gift of God's grace that you receive through faith; it is not a reward for faithfully following Christ until you die. The second term I need to define is "assurance of salvation". Assurance means that you can know for certain that heaven will be your eternal home before you die. Not just hope so, but know so. The roots of our security are God's power and God's promise. The fruit of our being sure is peace. Some verses which seem to oppose eternal security: In Hebrews 10:26-31, there is a very severe warning of judgment, but it is directed to those who never ever truly became Christians. It is a warning to those who know all about the gospel and attend church, but who have never trusted Christ's blood-bought salvation in a personal way. Hebrews 6:4-6 is the toughest, thorniest passage of all. There are eight different interpretations of it. This is the main verse used by those who believe that you can lose your salvation. Those folks say that once you backslide away from God, and slip-slide back into your old ways, you need to get saved all over again. The only problem is that with that view is that to be consistent with Hebrews 6:6, once a person is saved and then lost, he can never become saved again. It says, "It is impossible ... if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance." Many people say this refers to a professing believer who was never truly saved at all. I disagree. I believe it describes a genuine Christian who falls away and loses, not his salvation, but his eternal rewards. To "fall away" means to withdraw from the church and repudiate their identification with Christ. Once this occurs, it is impossible for the church to bring them back to a point of repentance where they can press on to maturity ( Hebrews 5:11-6:3). By their turning their backs on Christ, they bring shame and public disgrace to Christ's reputation. Their judgment is pictured in verses 7-8. Instead of fruit, their life will produce thorns. Instead of blessings, they will reap curses. (This refers back to Deuteronomy 28-30, not to eternal damnation.) The result is that all their life's works will be burned in the fire of Christ's judgment seat (see 1 Corinthians 3:15). When land is burned, it does not consume the soil; it only consumes the worthless weeds on top of the soil. This is divine chastisement, not damnation. Because of this, the answer to this question can't be solved by just quoting "proof-texts" or by listening to human experiences. Rather, we need to examine the whole big picture, then draw some logical conclusions about what to believe. Remember that later on in your life, if you seriously misbehave, or if you start to disbelieve, even though you will not lose your salvation, there is much that you will lose. You will lose your fellowship with God; you will lose the approval of God; you will lose your influence for God; you will lose the fruit of the Spirit in your life; you will lose your testimony, your reputation, you health, your relationships, and perhaps even your physical life; you will most definitely lose your eternal rewards. Everyone in heaven will have a full cup, but the diameters of those cups will be of different sizes. If you turn away from living for Christ in this life, instead of entering heaven with a wide cup of blessings, yours will be only a narrow thimble full, and that level of poverty won't change throughout all eternity. Even though God does not disown us completely, there are eternal consequences to unfaithfulness." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1535 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | BradK | 123056 | ||
Rowdy, In reference to 1 Cor. 9:25ff, you say "What else could he possibly be referring to in this context?" I think the context is dealing with Paul's rights as a minister and his limiting those rights- not salvation! Where in the context would you ascertain that he's speaking to or dealing with salvation? As to being disqualified (rejected), this refers to one who fails the test, is refused and disqualified. Paul's main point in this verse is to stir believers up to emulate him in self-discipline and use their bodies for the preaching of the Gospel. In regards to Acts 5, it would in my mind be an ASSUMPTION that Ananias and Sapphira were "christians who were also greedy." The text does not specifically say so. Verse 4:32 tells us that "the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul...", yet in 5:1 it says "But a certain man named Ananias..." Now, are they the same? I don't think so, but that may be debatable:-) What it boils down to with your "better safe than sorry" approach is: Motivation. You seem to be motivated to live godly by the fear "of facing Judgment Day unprepared" while I (speaking for myself) am motivated by the grace of God ( Titus 2:11-12). I think there's a HUGE difference in confidence and assurance between us:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1536 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | BradK | 123034 | ||
Hi Tim, I think we'd be in agreement based upon what you stated in response to my post:-) Both your points are well noted. I am still unsettled with respect to the example of your brother-in-law( and I'm not at all denying the situation). I agree that those situations would seem to be "rare" However, it is ultimately in God's hand as to their fate. I always appreciate an intelligent discussion on disputable matters- where we can still seek to know and learn. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1537 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | BradK | 123011 | ||
EdB, Thanks for the input and verses to reference. Give me a couple days and I'll respond in depth. You may very well be right to conclude that MAYBE one can be or is fooling themselves into thinking they're saved when they're not! Tim Moran has interestingly alluded to the fact that he believes one can "reject" God's salvation- and there may be some merit in that too. My quick take is this: there are numerous verses that CLEARLY tell us how we are saved and on what basis (Eph. 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, 1 John 5:13ff). However, there are no direct verses saying "this you can do to lose your salvation", etc., so I conclude that we must interpret what is less clear ( Heb. 6 and 10) by what is clear. Interestingly, I see a much stronger emphasis in Hebrews of the perseverance of the saints ( Heb. 7:25, 9:12,15). The plaguing question in my mind is "eternal life" by it's very definition is just that. Something eternal cannot be temporal (John 3:16). I believe we need to carefully define and understand what salvation encompasses and entails to fully understand the impact of this doctrine. It is certainly not a license to sin or live and ungodly life- Romans 6 answers that question without doubt. "I've personally found Titus 2:11-12 to be one of the most overlooked, if not neglected truths that deals with our MOTIVATION to live godly! I'm not denying that there are some (at least) seeming ambiguities whereby good people of God have and do disagree. I do side very strongly with the completed work of Christ on the cross and His all-sufficient saving grace ( Heb. 7:25). But again, I seriously think with reference to my question we need to limit our discussion to terms that are found within scripture- regardless of what side we take in matters of Eternal Security! Let's not say something scripture doesn't say:-) We'll be in touch. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1538 | Can you loose your salvation? | NT general Archive 1 | BradK | 123002 | ||
Rowdy, Not to kick up an argument for the sake of arguing, but it would be nice to confine (and define) such concepts in keeping with Biblical terminology! Where exactly does scripture say that a christian can loose their salvation "if you fail to maintain a good healthy relationship with God through His Son"? The reason I ask is because this is an important matter that pertains to one's walk and relationship. I understand what scripture says- both pro and con. However,if one can loose their salvation according to YOUR definition, how would they get it back and when would one know whether one was at any specific time saved or unsaved? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1539 | How can 1 Cor 14:14 be your reference? | John 4:23 | BradK | 122554 | ||
prazn, Let me interject here a moment, if I may:-) I second Tim's call to be careful not to call into question one's relationship with the Lord simply because you disagree with them! We should be able to reason together- and agree to disagree- if need be without name calling or placing a determination on someone's eternal destiny. One is not "more" or "less" spiritual because they believe the gift(s) (of tongues) are still in operation or not. As I said before, it does come down to a matter of interpretation and our orientation and understanding of scripture. None of us agree one every point of doctrine- and that SHOULD NOT be the test of fellowship! Good believers on either side have come to different conclusions. It's OK to disagree. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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1540 | Speaking in tongues? Use by women? | Gal 3:28 | BradK | 122409 | ||
WTB, We are, indeed one in Christ:-) In light of our discussion, I thought you might appreciate this snipet from A.W. Pink's "Attributes of God": "The "god" of this twentieth century no more resembles the Supreme Sovereign of Holy Writ than does the dim flickering of a candle the glory of the midday sun. The "god" who is now talked about in the average pulpit, spoken of in the ordinary Sunday School, mentioned in much of the religious literature of the day, and preached in most of the so-called Bible Conferences is the figment of human imagination, an invention of maudlin sentimentality. The heathen outside of the pale of Christendom form "gods" out of wood and stone, while the millions of heathen inside Christendom manufacture a "god" out of their own carnal mind. In reality, they are but atheists, for there is no other possible alternative between an absolutely supreme God, and no God at all. A "god" whose will is resisted, whose designs are frustrated, whose purpose is checkmated, possesses no title to Deity, and so far from being a fit object of worship, merits nought but contempt." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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