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Results from: Notes On or After: Thu 12/31/70 Author: oscar Ordered by Verse |
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1 | What is the meaning of Verse 1? | Gen 1:1 | oscar | 30891 | ||
If you find a reference to Verse 1, let me know it. I recommend you to read one of the Sagas of Jews, Mosses Ben Maimonides and you will find an inspired interpretation, that you could even love. Nonetheless, Verse 1, is enough by itself. Oscar |
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2 | Bible and evolution both? | Gen 1:1 | oscar | 30892 | ||
Hunk, When I said beautiful I meant brilliant, Where you said stupid, I said that it does not make any sense. I am terrible sorry I could not write in terms that you could understand better. I think we both agree, but do not think I will ever use your terms, even if you do not like my expressions. Oscar |
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3 | What is the meaning of Verse 1? | Gen 1:1 | oscar | 30898 | ||
Kelos, To compare Mosses Ben Maimonides with Karl, Freud and Darwin, is something that doesn't make any sense. To qualify the inspiration of such a Saga, the way you do it, show me only two things: you are brighter and more inspired than him; or, you are a fool and an ignorant. I prefer to think the first. Many scholars use Maimonides writings as a reference, he made inferences about the earth being an sphere, much before Columbus; he interpreted Creation around de 1400 as being an explosion, the same way that modern physics says "it is the only way" (the Big Bang); he was very respected by Christians and in his days the Roman Catholic Church could not burn him, because he was so respected; his work is full of references to the Pentatheuc that can give us light in many more different subject. There is no a serious Bible student that doesn't know about him. I want to believe that you have read his "Guide for the Perplex", since you already compare him with Karl, Freud and Darwin. you could surprise the world with something better, and I think we all could benefit with your contribution. From your comments it shows it could be better and more inspired than his work. If you did not read him, it will be good to do it, so you can talk with more authority. I respect Mamom, if you know who he is, and I read many of the Jews, they have the advantage of the language and the Masoretic text, and beleive me, they are the people of God also, and many of them are also Christians. Let's do not make this difference of views a personal matter. If I there is nothing to say, the best alternative is to say nothing. Maybe we should try it. The peace of our Lord be with you. Oscar |
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4 | if sabath means sat(day) why we take sun | Ex 20:11 | oscar | 31529 | ||
Kalos, The way you answer this question is very unusual. It seems that you are trying to take on the role of moderator. In this case and in others cases also. This is a self-moderated forum, and if you do not want to answer a given question, we should not answer it, this forum is not something personal, neither the questions. I want to give ARISE the benefit of the doubt, and therefore the credit that he already searched for answers, but he was not satisfied with them. Why should we think that our previous discussion cover the subject in a satisfactory way for him? Why should we think we have the last word? Why should we say, "I already said"? "Oh blessed, you poor on spirit, you know the will of God" To be poor on spirit we should get rid of our pride, try to have an insight, to learn from each other, because He is on us, in the hearth of each one of us. Shouldn't we let Him manifest? These are just thoughts, not questions. God Bless you |
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5 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | oscar | 32859 | ||
Jonh 1:1 Can anyone show me any passages that show that Jesus is God? A friend of mine believes that Jesus is the Son of God but not God (and the Holy Spirit is the action of God but not God). I've shown him many verses but most can also be interpreted as separate individuals (for example: I baptize you in the name of the Father and in the Son, and in the Holy Spirit could be interpreted as baptizing in the name of the three separate entities.) I've also shown him the classic John 1:1 and similar verses but he interprets it at Jesus and God think alike, have the same mission, similar in nature, etc... Is there something in the Bible that very simply and cleary says that the Three are one? To me there are many verses that state this clearly, but to him, they state something completely different. Yes, Jesus is God. (Matt 10:40; Matt 11; Matt 28; John 3; 5; 6; 8; 10; 12; 14; 15; 16; 17; Acts 2; 1 Cor 1; 12; 13; Eph 4; 6; Phil 2:6; Col 1; 2; 3; 1 Thess 3; 2 Thess 2; 1 John 2; 1 John 5; Rev 20; Rev 22.) Yes, He is God. Kalos is giving you many references, all of them are good, but they could not work for a JW, because they have their own "translation", it is a poor translation, but it is theirs anyway. There is one book that they have not changed and it is the same in all translations, including theirs, Revelation. Rev 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him; and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." It is obvious that we are talking about Jesus, because the Father was not ever pierced. Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" It should be clear that the Lord said "I am the Almighty", I am the Alpha and the Omega" and the one that was "pierced", but we will continue in this. Rev 1:16 "And he has in his right hand seven starts, and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword …" There is no doubt that he is the Word, Jesus, the Son Rev 1:17 " … Fear not; I am the first and the Last:" Again the Son tells us I am God the Almighty, here He is talking. Rev 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forever …" I am sure your friend will understand that the Father was not ever dead. Rev 22:12 "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me …" I think that your friend knows that the one that is coming is the Lord, the Son, Jesus, the one that continues Rev 22:13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the Last" Yes, my friend He is God. Nonetheless, you will find many people that have problems to understand the Trinity, and we cannot blame them. The main reason is in the way they think, it is for them too difficult to deal with abstractions. But for you, my friend, I tell you: God could manifest Himself in the way He pleases, we insignificant mortals cannot tell you I do not want you to appear, or revel yourself as a cloud or as a new moon. He has manifested himself in three different forms: as the Father, as the Son, and, as the Holy Spirit. And He is God in each one of his manifestations, He could also manifest Himself as a talking tree, I think that we would get very afraid is such a think happens, but He could. The fact is that we know about God because of his manifestations and the Holy Trinity is the abstraction we made of His three different manifestations. We call each of this manifestations a person, because this is another abstraction of the language to represent such a manifestation, not because a person is an individual. The problem of many is that they cannot separate these two abstractions and then they think that every person of the Trinity would be an individual, this personal inhability lets them to believe that we believe in three Gods, we just have to pray for them and recommend them to take some minerals to straight up their wires, and to help them to make the right wiring. You are a very lucky man, founding a JW that is open mind. Should you convince him to use your Bible, not his, you can use all the ammunition that Kalos gave to you. In any case, if he buy the idea from Revelations, I would take Kalos as the best option for him to understand. You brother Oscar |
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6 | One God, many faiths? | Acts 4:12 | oscar | 32342 | ||
Hi Curt, I read your points; they look great and very few to add. I was studying this subject for some time and it could help to know that the Trinity of the Christians, in the inspired book of Islam, is not the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. According to Q'uram or Koran, we believe in the Father, the Son (Jesus) and Mary. I think we should try to understand that if they believe that's our Trinity, then we have to be wrong; the point is how did they get this "revelation" that does not correspond to Christian believe? On the other hand, the Arab tribes they had many gods, each one with his on stone color. Mohammed knew his god, the one of the black stone, and got his revelation from him. It is interesting to notice that while he was getting this revelation he fall to the ground in convulsions, spitting foam out of the mouth; this is very suggesting of some other power, but the power of God. It could be as it was suggested that this was B'aal, the deceiver, and we know him for long The expressions about women are also very interesting, especially if they are suppose to come from God. It is obvious that we are not dealing with a new view of the same god, but with another god, which is not, by any means God, but a false god; could it be the angel of light? Oscar |
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7 | Does Christ or the Holy Spirit give gift | Eph 4:7 | oscar | 31726 | ||
Isn't it true that the Jesus Christ, (the Son) and the Holly Spirits are two persons but only one individual? Just different manifestations of God? Oscar |
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8 | My mom is praying to saints for | Jude 1:9 | oscar | 30633 | ||
Hi, It seems that we both had the same problem. My mother was Roman Catholic and she asked the Saints of the Church (Catholic), for intercessory prayers. She already pass the way, and I am sure she is saved, because she was a wonderful person, she love God with all her hearth and she beleived in Jesus and took Him as her savior. She did not read the Bible, because on her days the Roman Catholic Church discourages its grey to read the Bible. Your mother is not worshipping the Saints and you can be sure she has Faith in God and this God is your God also. She is not praying to a graven image. You can be sure of that, but you could ask her, anyway. When she "ask" the Saints for intercessory pray, she is wrong because their are dead, and they will be dead until resurrection, if what we belive is true. But God is good and He reads our hearths. Thimothy 2:1 (not a good extrapolation) There is a lot of things we think are wrong in other churches, but His is the judgment. It is true that a corrupted tree will not bring forth good fruit, you are good fruit. You should glorify your mother and if she is asking for intercession, pray with her, for her and for you. Thanks God that He blessed her with you, and He blessed you with her. Do not judge her. Read the bible with her, even her Roman Catholic Bible, for your surprise, you will find that it is not that different than the Bible you use; in essence, it is the same as our Bible. Do not condem her, take her with you over the Word you love, but show her the same dedication she is showing; be a model for her on your own faith. Do not look on the forms, but on her needs; do not look on the forms, but on her hearth. Exodus 20:12 Deuteronomy 5:16 Because, you could be trying to change her rituals by your rituals, show her your ways and if you can get a better personal connection than she can do, she will follow you. May God Bless you and make a blessing of you. Oscar |
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9 | My mom is praying to saints for | Jude 1:9 | oscar | 48126 | ||
What you mean is that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, are among the living? or that They already resurrected? or that they are the only exception to the rule? I do not understand your point. How did you made up your premises, how did you get into the conclusion. I do not ask the Saints for intercessory pray, but I cannot find any thing wrong in doing it . Further more, I try to interpret the Bible the best I can, but I do not think I own the thruth. Blessed are you that have the only thruth. |
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