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5821 | Why did David use five stones? | Genesis | DocTrinsograce | 129467 | ||
This were the verses I was getting four brothers from: 2 Samuel 21:19-22 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. (20) And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. (21) And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him. (22) These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants. I guess I figured that since Goliath was dead at the period this passage is recounting, that Gath had five sons. Isn't it interesting that all of these brothers had 24 digits? Clearly this giantism was a dominant gene that manifested itself in other ways, too. I wonder what it would be like to have 12 fingers? Wow, imagine playing the old 88! Or surf boarding, "Hanging 12!" :-) |
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5822 | Morning Prayer | Ps 55:17 | DocTrinsograce | 129392 | ||
I have always been blessed by the prayers of the old Puritans, those Godly men and women who knew the Lord so much better than we do today. Please let me share this wonderful morning prayer with my fellow forum members: "Compassionate Lord, Thy mercies have brought me to the dawn of another day. Vain will be its gift unless I grow in grace, increase in knowledge, ripen for spiritual harvest. Let me this day know Thee as Thou art, love Thee supremely, serve Thee wholly, admire Thee fully. Through grace let my will respond to Thee, knowing that power to obey is not in me, but that Thy free love alone enables me to serve Thee. Here then is my empty heart, overflow it with Thy choicest gifts; here is my blind understanding, chase away its mists of ignorance. "O ever watchful Shepherd, lead, guide, tend me this day; without Thy restraining rod I err and stray. Hedge up my path lest I wander into unwholesome pleasure, and drink its poisonous streams; direct my feet that I be not entangled in Satan's secret snares, nor fall into his hidden traps. Defend me from assailing foes, from evil circumstances, from myself. My adversaries are part and parcel of my nature; they cling to me as my very skin; I cannot escape their contact. In my rising up and sitting down they barnacle me; they entice with constant baits; my enemy is within the citadel. Come with almighty power and cast him out, pierce him to death, and abolish in me every particle of carnal life this day." |
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5823 | Do deacons and pastors need be married? | NT general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 129384 | ||
I'm not sure in what way you are disagreeing with me over. It is a fact that the requirements of deacons (diakonos) and elders (presbuteros) as outlined by Paul differ. Deacons requirements are not as stringent. This is a verifiable scriptural fact. Perhaps you misunderstood me. I was commenting with respect to a higher standard, not a lower standard. I would never suggest departing from the standard that we are given in scripture. |
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5824 | How do we evaluate a pastor | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 129373 | ||
Hebrews 13:17 says that pastors will give account to the Lord for their flock. I always think about that passage and wonder if I am treating the instruction of my pastor with that kind of seriousness. In my tradition, and this also seems to be consistent with scriptural injunctions, we say that the pastor has the authority to bind our conscience, but always and only with the Word. Ed, wouldn't the passages in 1 Timothy, 1 Peter, and Titus also be good ways to measure the quality of a pastor? |
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5825 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129370 | ||
Please forgive me, Ed. Sarcasm never edifies or ministers grace to the hearer (Ephesians 4:29) no matter the provocation. What's more in this particular case it is hypocritical, since I was complaining about an ad homenism with sarcasm, which is in itself just thinly veiled ad homenistic statements! Harboring resentment regardless of the cause is a repudiation of the unity that Christ accomplished on the cross (Ephesians 2:10-22). My trespass against you, Brother Ed, was public. Therefore I acknowledge that tresspass publicly, and make my request for forgiveness publicly. |
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5826 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129294 | ||
Didn't those experts figure the death of Servetus was exagerated by a factor of a 1,000? That should reduce Calvin's guilt down to nothing more than spitting in his general direction. Of course, it still might be wise if the Presbyterians follow suit and apologize to the Moonies and the Mormons. | ||||||
5827 | Grape Vine Decorated Gate? | John 14:31 | DocTrinsograce | 129288 | ||
There it is! The Jewish Encyclopedia states, "Above the gate of the Temple were golden vines and grape-clusters as large as a man (Ant. xv. 11, section 3; "B. J." v. 5, section 4)." Thus, Christ, while teaching in the temple, might have gestured to these decorations as He began that wonderful teaching of John 15! Its conceivable... still speculation, but conceivable. Thank you, Brother Steve! |
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5828 | Trenches or Playground? | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 129271 | ||
Today, our pastor quoted from a conversation he had with a missionary that is working in the Middle-East: "The Bible is written for soldiers in the trenches, not brats in the playground. You will only understand the Bible from the trenches, never from the playground." Lord, help me to be less the brat and more the soldier! |
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5829 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129266 | ||
All of these men (including the heretic Servetus) were excommunicated. Tyndale and Huss were martyred by the same authorities. Attempts were made on Luther's life and very nearly succeeded. (If you actually read the records on Servetus incident, he was sentenced to death by the city council of Geneva in spite of Calvin's pleadings to them to show mercy. Calvin wasn't even on the city council -- which was composed of men who frequently disagreed with him.) You are right about Wycliff. He had the discourtesy of dying too quickly, but the Council of Constance ordered his body disinterred, burned, and the remains thrown into a river, all done by the cover of night. Lets drop Calvin and Servetus out of the mix, I never mentioned them. (Really, Ed! Use of the ad hominem fallacy???) All of the rest of these men were excommunicated because of their connection with what was called "Wycliffism." Wycliffism was condemned by the pope in a bull issued on December 20, 1409. (This, by the way, also made "free preaching" an act of heresy against Rome.) I wish I could lay my hands on the actual text of these early bulls, but they don't seem to be extant these days. The Council of Trent, about 150 years later, put it this way "...no one, relying on his own skill, shall,--in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine, --wresting the sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which holy mother Church,--whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy Scriptures." Furthermore, "But if any one shall teach, or entertain sentiments, contrary to these decrees; let him be anathema." Okay, I'll let you improve all the numbers by three orders of magnitude. I'll even grant that I was inexact and swept too broad of a brush in ruing the death of martyred believers. Besides, as you pointed out, you wouldn't change your opinion regardless. However, you need to think about the multiple meanings of your phrase " not the rewrites done by people with an axe to grind." Meanwhile, I'm with you in at least this one point, and I paraphrase, "Lets get the facts right." Let me see if I can accommodate your sensibilities with the following politically corrected statement. Remember, I was complaining about modern evangelicalism, of which I am a part. "Ecumenism that teaches the worship of unity even at the cost of truth. That would put us under the authority of persons who will decide what we ought to believe, although they killed and tortured an unspecified number of people who taught, or felt, otherwise. (Note: Martyred figures vary depending upon source, but it is certain that these unspecified persons are repentant due to relatively recent apologies which were delivered to two other world religions.)" In future posts, I promise to take greater care with my wording. Now, shall we let God be the judge of the dead? As Emmaus put it, "On with the Bible study." |
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5830 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129236 | ||
It would appear that using this method puts us in good company around here. :-) I had read about the apology to the Jews. I had also read about a similar apology to all of Islam that came out a few months later. Since then I've been waiting in vain for more. Since I had offered some documents from the same source for your perusal, it would only be fair for me to look at these other documents that contain the improved figures. I'll even take your word on their impartial researcher seal of approval. Brother Ed, as far as the world is concerned, there is no difference in the colors we paint ourselves. Things done in the name of Christianity -- for good or ill -- are stigmas that we all carry as believers. Unfortunately, the face-lifts, adjustments, and euphemisms do not mitigate the distinctives which are based on things that make a world of difference for a man's eternal destiny. |
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5831 | What Value the Word | Matt 13:46 | DocTrinsograce | 129218 | ||
I have a friend who collects old Bibles. I'll never forget one Bible in particular that he showed me. It was a French Bible whose owner had died in the fifteen-seventies. This Bible was remarkable because it was stained with blood. Apparently, it was a common practice of the soldiers to press the Bibles of their enemies into their blood after it was spilled. (I don't really know or understand why this was done, especially since most often the Bibles were gathered and burned.) According to my friend, this Bible had escaped destruction. Of course, it is hard to know if the story of this Bible was genuine. But you can't imagine the sense of holding such a Bible. Just think! The Bible in my hand was once so prized by a man, that he was willing to die for it. Lord, help me never to underestimate the value of my great heritage. Help me to take advantage of the freedom I now enjoy to study Your Word, and to know you better. To paraphrase a famous American, "It would be a strange thing indeed if such freedom cost anything then less than blood." |
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5832 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129217 | ||
I can't seem to find any unbiased historical accounts that support what you are saying. Even the contemporary historical accounts of Rome don't jibe. These adjustments represent a consensus of opinion that is not easily moved. That's especially true when such stolid immobility is so unwaveringly affirmed. Although I can't prevent a bit of irony in my tone as I say this, perhaps the shifting of a decimal point will, by the same proportion, make some these things more tolerable to our modern sensibilities. In any case, I retract my statements of facts and figures. As I said elsewhere, we'll let history justify itself. |
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5833 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129206 | ||
I stand corrected. Forgive me for presuming on you. Please consider my statements that stemmed from this misunderstanding retracted. | ||||||
5834 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129200 | ||
I know the sentence brother Ed was referring to... I don't see the word "Reformation" in there. The period of history I was talking about began several hundred years before the Reformation. (Now that you bring it up, thank you for your resistance to Ecumenism. It is gratifying that some of the laity don't see eye-to-eye with the ECT agreement. I think we'll both be happy if I hang around in my relegated condition of 1564!) As I stated before... I intend no offense to anyone. Let history stand on its own feet and justify itself. The scripture is all about truth... and truth is what I pursue... and to that end, let us do, indeed, return to the study of the Word... the supreme, all sufficient, efficacious, and perspicuous source of all revealed truth! Psalms 19:7-8 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. |
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5835 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129198 | ||
Regarding your third point: When did I ever say that the reformation was about putting Bibles into the hands of the people? Brother Ed, if you are going to dispute with me, please dispute with what I actually say. This way, when I'm wrong, I have a chance to retract my statements! Mistating my position is close kin to the straw man fallacy, but worse! That said, let me state what the purpose of the reformation actually was... then you argue with an accurate expression of my position. The purpose of the Reformation was to bring the doctrines of the Church back into agreement (that's why we use the word "Reformed") with the truths written in the law of Holy Canon. I can't believe that you would write off men like Martin Luther as mere pawns! Sure there was political intrigue and sure religion was used as an excuse for a lot of excesses. That's been true since Cain and Able! Sir, I do not mean to demean Catholic TV and TBN, but if this is the sole source of your perspectives on the Reformation, you'll be excited to know that you can actually read what a lot of those pawns with religious convictions actually had to say. You can read their debates. You can read their discussions of scripture and of their deep love for a God Who saved wretched men through no merit of their own. Getting it from the "horses mouth" so to speak is better than depending on these second-hand, pre-digested sources. Remember that "evil communications corrupt good manners." That doesn't mean you have to agree with them. But your understanding of church history will grow and, I think, benefit your understanding of God's washing of Christ's bride through the centuries. I even read St. Francis, Brother Lawrence, and other Catholics. I don't agree with them on everything, but I certainly find men who dearly loved the Lord. I'm a five pointer, but I still see the devotion and godliness of John Wesley. If you spend some time doing this, brother, I think you will be pleased to discover that we had faithful bretheren way back then. They didn't look like us, and they didn't sound like us, but they were there, walking with the Lord. May God be pleased to grant us grace that we might be found so faithful! |
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5836 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129197 | ||
Regarding your third point: When did I ever say that the reformation was about putting Bibles into the hands of the people? Brother Ed, if you are going to dispute with me, please dispute with what I actually say. This way, when I'm wrong, I have a chance to retract my statements! Mistating my position is close kin to the straw man fallacy, but worse! That said, let me state what the purpose of the reformation actually was... then you argue with an accurate expression of my position. The purpose of the Reformation was to bring the doctrines of the Church back into agreement (that's why we use the word "Reformed") with the truths written in the law of Holy Canon. I can't believe that you would write off men like Martin Luther as mere pawns! Sure there was political intrigue and sure religion was used as an excuse for a lot of excesses. That's been true since Cain and Able! Sir, I do not mean to demean Catholic TV and TBN, but if this is the sole source of your perspectives on the Reformation, you'll be excited to know that you can actually read what a lot of those pawns with religious convictions actually had to say. You can read their debates. You can read their discussions of scripture and of their deep love for a God Who saved wretched men through no merit of their own. Getting it from the "horses mouth" so to speak is better than depending on these second-hand, pre-digested sources. Remember that "evil communications corrupt good manners." That doesn't mean you have to agree with them. But your understanding of church history will grow and, I think, benefit your understanding of God's washing of Christ's bride through the centuries. I even read St. Francis, Brother Lawrence, and other Catholics. I don't agree with them on everything, but I certainly find men who dearly loved the Lord. I'm a five pointer, but I still see the devotion and godliness of John Wesley. If you spend some time doing this, brother, I think you will be pleased to discover that we had faithful bretheren way back then. They didn't look like us, and they didn't sound like us, but they were there, walking with the Lord. May God be pleased to grant us grace that we might be found so faithful! |
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5837 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129196 | ||
Regarding your second point, please look up the biographies of men such as John Huss, John Wycliffe, John Purvey, Martin Luther, William Tyndale, John Rogers, and others. Each of these men sought to put the Bible in the languages of the common man. Each were denounced by Rome. "Starting about 1080 there were many incidents where the Pope, Church councils, or individual bishops forbid the translation of the Bible into the language of the common people (the vernacular)." --Paul Johnson, "A History of Christianity," page 273. (This author is Catholic.) If anecdotes are acceptable in our arguments, then I have to include that I've watched Catholic TV myself. I have seen the very words of scripture be explained away as being contrary to the authority of their traditions. In this one program a young lady told a number of children said, "You cannot read the scripture without having a priest interpret it for you." This is consistent with the "Catechism of the Catholic Church," paragraphs 85, 87, 100, 862, 891, 939, 2034, 2037, 2041, and 2050 I'll answer your third point in another post. |
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5838 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129195 | ||
Brother Ed, thank you for your comments. I'll quote a few historians. (By the way, I don't hold any modern Roman Catholic responsible for the acts of people in history. We weren't there. Had we been there, we probably would have done no better. I haven't been placed in a position to do such things, but that is strictly by the grace of God. Furthermore, I am not making any condemnation of Romanism. I am simply responding to a question of the accuracy of a previous post.) Robert Kentch author of "French Wars of Religion" gives estimates as high as 78,000 Huguenots killed The Catholic historian Vergerius, who states that during the Pontificate of Pope Paul IV (1555-1559) "the Inquisition alone, by tortures, starvation, or the fire, murdered more than 150,000 Protestants." "This was the century of the last religious wars in Christendom, the Thirty Years, War in Germany, fomented by the Jesuits, reducing the people to cannibalism, and the population of Bohemia from 4,000,000 to 780,000, and of Germany from 20,000,000 to 7,000,000, and making Southern Germany almost a desert..." --Cushing B. Hassell, "History of the Church of God" "Need I speak to you of the ... Irish rebellion, of the inhuman butchery of about 15 millions of Indians in South America, Mexico and Cuba... In short, it is calculated by authentic historians, that Rome has shed the blood of sixty-eight millions of the human race in order to establish her claims to religious dominion..." --S. S. Schmucker, "Glorious Reformation" "There perished under pope Julian 200,000 Christians: and by the French massacre, on a moderate calculation, in 3 months, 100,000. Of the Waldenses there perished 150,000; of the Albigenses, 150,000. There perished by the Jesuits in 30 years only 900,000. The Duke of Alva destroyed by the common hangman alone, 36,000 persons; the amount murdered by him is set down by Grotius at 100,000. There perished by the fire, and tortures of the Inquisition in Spain, Italy, and France 150,000. In the Irish massacres there perished 150,000 Protestants" --W. C. Browley I could add more quotes, but suffice it to say that one of us is wrong. If I'm wrong, then a lot of historians are wrong. Please site any sources you have to support your position of Rome's benign treatment of Protestantism. (By the way, have you ever read Foxes book of martyrs?) I'll respond to your other comments in a subsequent post. |
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5839 | Does Islam fit here? | 2 John 1:7 | DocTrinsograce | 129192 | ||
Who said anything about denominationalism? I'm a Baptist. We tend to not care for denominations since, historically, they tend to get us burned at the stake, thrown in jail, exiled, or all of the above. That's why we have associations and conventions -- of course, I have to admit, sometimes there's a bit of hair splitting that goes on. :-) Momma -- I like that screen name, it makes me think of my own dear blessed mother! -- perhaps you are right. In our fervor for the truth, we can be less than loving. One thing I'm certain of, though, and that is that we must be diligent at the work of pursuing holiness and truth in our own life. We are a living stone, and we must be certain of our utility in the structure that is not made with human hands. Let us make our own calling and election sure. I know without persuasion from anyone that I can see my own failings and vices far, far, far more clearly than I see yours! Excuse me while I go tend to this 2 by 4 hanging out of my eye! |
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5840 | Discovering the will of God | Eph 2:10 | DocTrinsograce | 129187 | ||
Thank you, JKW, I've been on both sides of the fence too. God is gracious to not only in our salvation, but in our continued sanctification. The Bible represents a progressive revelation of God. It is true that God does not change. However, He has worked out His eternal purposes in a gradually unfolding fashion. He wants to be close to His own. At one time we could only approach Him in the temple. Now the temple is within us. At one time His Spirit came upon those who were prophets, judges, or kings. Now the Spirit dwells within us. Nevertheless, today we see with the eyes of faith. In the future we will see clearly, even to the point of seeing Him even as we are seen. Regarding Saul, you must understand that God has always prescribed the right way to approach Him. No one can come to Him outside of the very specific ways that He has specified. To try to come to Him on our own terms is to call down judgment on ourselves. God is sovereign, not man. In our day, the revelation of God is complete. We have all that we need to know from Him. He has stated it all very clearly, and He has given us His Spirit to bring it all home in our hearts. Like kalos says so well succinctly, "God does not mumble." The canon of scripture is closed. The Apostles had a special purpose -- that's why they were to focus of Christ's ministry -- with the death of the last Apostle, our era began. Now we have the Holy Scripture gathered together into the 66 books we love and hold so dear. By the way, what we do have is far superior than having prophets. God has provided us something much more specific, much more personal, much more immediate, much more lucid, and much more precious! I am convinced that if we really belong to God, that nothing can stand in the way of His accomplishing His purposes in us. For this I am quite grateful, because I know all too well how poorly I handle my own life. I need Him, every hour I need Him! Every time I stumble it is a reminder of just how much I need Him! |
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