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1 | OT laws repeated in NT | Bible general Archive 3 | Eagle 38 | 180433 | ||
Hi KALOS, Once again you came through with a concise answer to a heart rending question that has burdened the children of God since Paul. Great answer, Eagle 38 |
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2 | OT laws repeated in NT | Bible general Archive 3 | Eagle 38 | 180430 | ||
Dear Valoree, Great answer, In Him Eagle 38 |
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3 | once saved always saved? | Eph 5:8 | Eagle 38 | 180396 | ||
Good afternoon Brother Doc, Part 2 The following was an OPEN LETTER sent to Professor Gerstner in 1991 by Christian and Pauline dispensational author Miles J. Stanford. Dear brother Gerstner, My reason for writing is your new book, Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth--A Critique of Dispensationalism. I consider you and the late Dr. John Murray to be for Covenant theology what Dr. Scofield and Dr. Chafer were for Dispensational theology. I am a traditional, not contemporary dispensationalist of some 50 years, in the line of Paul, Darby, Scofield, and Chafer. Unashamed. I speak from a fully-involved inside dispensational position. My convictions, as far as I can discern, are those of classic Pauline Dispensationalism. At the outset, I confess to being a thorough-going Antinomian, Webster: "Antinomian: a member of a Christian sect which holds that faith alone, not obedience to the moral law, is necessary for salvation." To qualify that a bit, I am not a member of a sect Christian or otherwise but have attended the same IFCA Bible Church for some 30 years. But I do qualify as an Antinomian. I was recreated in Christ Jesus on the 19th of September, 1940. This occurred by faith alone, apart from works of any kind. I knew absolutely nothing of Lordship, nothing of the law--I didnt even know John 3:16. I made no promises, knowing of nothing that had to be promised. All I knew was that I was a lost sinner in need of the Saviour, hence I received Him as my own--the simplest of faith via the profoundest of grace. The immediate that-day result was the end of a 15-year smoking addiction, a ten-year drinking addiction, including a number of other immoral practices. On the other hand, there developed a hunger for and study of the inerrant Word of truth, which taught me that I was an unconditionally elect one from before the foundation of the world, and that I had been efficaciously called by the Spirit of the Sovereign God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. As a totally depraved member of the Old Adam Society, I carried out my responsibility of receiving the Saviour by faith alone. Not "working faith," nor "dead faith," but faith by grace; and I was thereby regenerated, sorry about that by the Holy Spirit and made an eternal member of the Body of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is the Church Eph. 1:22,23. This was nothing of so-called "cheap grace"--it cost my Father His Beloved Son. My being "dead in trespasses and sins" did not preclude my choosing previously to reject the Saviour. I had faith, and exercised it--faith in myself, in others, in the very chairs I sat upon and the bridges I walked upon. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live" John 5:25. I heard and lived, rather than lived and heard. Prior to my conversion I was not aware of the Spirit drawing me to the Saviour. Later, via the Word, I realized His sovereignty in the matter-all carried out without in any way violating my personal volition and responsibility to receive the Lord Jesus in order to be regenerated. Whatever repentance may have been required was included in my faith--that of turning from myself and my sin to the Saviour and His righteousness. This is where my Antinomianism really comes into play. It is true that, by means of the Word, I ultimately came to know the Saviour as Lord--in the sense of His Deity: He is sovereign Lord of the universe. But He has never been Lord over me, whether it be rebirth, or new life. He is my Life; I am a son of God--which is far beyond and more intimate than Lordship. I acknowledge and confess Him as Lord, but the Word never speaks of Him as Lord in relation to the Body. He is to be Lord and King over the nation of Israel, but not over His beloved Bride, His very Body--"for we are members of His Body, of His flesh, and of His bones" Eph. 5:30. In Him as Life; not under Him as Lord and King. My daily life is not ruled by law. The Spirit of Christ ministers Him to the believer as his Life John 16:13,14, never the law. "For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God" Gal. 2:19. My first pastor was a fine product of Princeton Seminary, hence I encountered enough law thereby to cause me to appreciate His grace and life for my spiritual growth -sanctification. I rely upon His divine-human life as my Christian life--life that flows naturally and effortlessly, rather than the struggle and bondage of the law. "For to me to live is Christ"; "Christ, who is our life" Phil. 1:21; Col. 3:4. We know that Paul was not implying that he was as Christ, but that he lived by Christ--not Christ in His deity that would be pantheistic blasphemy, but in His new-creation humanity. "That the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body" 2 Cor. 4:10. |
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4 | once saved always saved? | Eph 5:8 | Eagle 38 | 180392 | ||
Good afternoon Brother Doc, I read with interest your quote from James R. White. "The doctrine of divine grace, according to eternal purpose, which God in Christ Jesus before the world began, is a doctrine according to Godliness; and when rightly held and taught, tends to promote comfort, zeal, and perseverance in all holy obedience, from a sense of gratitude; and in nowise interferes with the obligations and responsibilities of men;" I admit I have no knowledge of James White or his doctrinal stand. However, one statement in your quote jumped out at me. "the ruins of Antinomianism." This short phrase leads me to believe that James White places conditions on the scripture found in Eph. 1:11-14. In addition, the phrase "doctrine according to godliness." seems to contradict the scriptures describing God's Elect. Could you give me the book, chapter and verse where the phrase appears? As I read the Word, there are no pre-requisites to being "Predestinated". Are Gods chosen free to behave as though they are not Gods chosen? The question is moot as it is no longer in their nature to do so. Do the children of God sin? Of course we do. The "Old Man" or as Miles Stanford aptly names him, "The Adamic Nature" is still functional in our flesh. When the child of God sins, does this strip him of Godliness? No. An act of sin breaks fellowship until we go to God according to I John 1:9. God chose every member of the Body of Christ before the creation of the world. Eph. 1:4-7 Having said all that I would like to quote from a Polemic letter written by Miles Stanford, addressed to John H. Gerstner. It will be part 2. |
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5 | what is the wages of sin? | Rom 6:23 | Eagle 38 | 180271 | ||
Dear Brother Steve, Moments ago I received mail from Doc regarding my source material from the works of John Darby. I apologized to him as I did to you. So, here is my second apology of the hour. I don't make a habit of plagriarizing. It was oversight and poor short term memory. In Him, Eagel |
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6 | Those who draw back to destruction (198) | Heb 10:38 | Eagle 38 | 180270 | ||
Dear Doc, Moments ago I received a note from Steve. I accept your note as I did his. I apologize for forgetting to provide my source as the works of John Darby. Eagle |
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7 | Those who draw back to destruction (198) | Heb 10:38 | Eagle 38 | 180267 | ||
Hello Steve, The note did indeed come from John Darby's work. I apologize for forgetting to provide my source. In Him, Eagle 38 |
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8 | Those who draw back to destruction (198) | Heb 10:38 | Eagle 38 | 180256 | ||
This scripture was directed to Jews as a warning not to return to fruitless works according to the law. Verse 39 is the answer. (Quoted at the end of this note) There remained no more sacrifice for sin. All sins were pardoned by the efficacy of this sacrifice: but if, after having known the truth, they were to choose sin instead, there was no other sacrifice by virtue even of the perfection of that of Christ. Nothing but judgment remained. Such a professor, having had the knowledge of the truth and having abandoned it, would assume the character of an adversary. The case, then, here supposed is the renunciation of the confession of Christ, deliberately preferring-after having known the truth-to walk according to one's own will in sin. This is evident, both from that which precedes and from verse 29. Thus we have (chaps. 6, 10.) the two great privileges of Christianity, what distinguishes it from Judaism, presented in order to warn those who made profession of the former, that the renunciation of the truth, after enjoying these advantages, was fatal; for if these means of salvation were renounced, there was no other. These privileges were the manifested presence and power of the Holy Ghost, and the offering which, by its intrinsic and absolute value, left no place for any other. Both of these possessed a mighty efficacy, which, while it gave divine spring and force, and the manifestation of the presence of God on the one hand, made known on the other hand the eternal redemption and the perfection of the worshiper; leaving no means for repentance, if any one abandoned the manifested and known power of that presence; no place for another sacrifice (which, more over, would have denied the efficacy of the first), after the perfect work of God in salvation, perfect whether with regard to redemption or to the presence of God by the Spirit in the midst of His own. Nothing remained but judgment. They who despised the law of Moses died without mercy. What then would not those deserve at the hand of God, who trod under foot the Son of God, counted the blood of the covenant, by which they had been sanctified, as a common thing, and did despite to the Spirit of grace? It was not simple disobedience, however evil that might be; it was contempt of the grace of God, and of that which He had done, in the Person of Jesus, in order to deliver us from the consequences of disobedience. On the one hand, what was there left, if with the knowledge of what it was, they renounced this? On the other hand, how could they escape judgment? for they know a God who had said that vengeance belonged unto Him, and that He would recompense; and, again, the Lord would judge His people. Observe here the way in which sanctification is attributed to the blood; and, also, that professors are treated as belonging to the people. The blood, received by faith, consecrates the soul to God; but it is here viewed also as an outward means for setting apart the people as a people. Every individual who had owned Jesus to be the Messiah, and the blood to be the seal and foundation of an everlasting covenant available for eternal cleansing and redemption on the part of God, acknowledging himself to be set apart for God, by this means, as one of the people-every such individual would, if he renounced it, renounce it as such; and there was no other way of sanctifying him. The former system had evidently lost its power for him, and the true one he had abandoned. This is the reason why it is said, " having received the knowledge of the truth." Nevertheless he hopes better things, for fruit, the sign of life, was there. He reminds them how much they had suffered for the truth, and that they had even received joyfully the spoiling of their goods, knowing that they had a better and an abiding portion in heaven. They were not to cast away this confidence, the reward of which would be great. For in truth they needed patience, in order that, after having done the will of God, they might receive the effect of the promise. And He who is to come will come soon. It is to this life of patience and perseverance that the chapter applies. But there is a principle which is the strength of this life, and which characterises it. In the midst of the difficulties of the christian walk the just shall live by faith; and if anyone draws back, God will have no pleasure in him. " But," says the author, placing himself as ever in the midst of the believers, "we are not of them who draw back, but of them that believe unto the saving of the soul." Thereupon he describes the action of this faith, encouraging believers by the example of the elders who had acquired their renown by walking according to the same principle as that by which the faithful were now called to walk. The emphasis is actually found in verse 39. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition, but of them that believe unto the saving of the soul. Eagle 38 |
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9 | what is the wages of sin? | Rom 6:23 | Eagle 38 | 180250 | ||
THE POSITION FACTOR -- Consider the believer's positional history. Before anything was brought into being--the universe, the world, Adam--I, a chosen, elect, and called person was conceived in my Father's heart and purpose. (See Eph. 1: 4, 5; 2 Tim. 1: 9; Ps. 139:16). My Father called the world into being, and created Adam to be head of the human race for that world. I was identified positionally with the source of humanity. When Adam sinned and thereby positionally died to God, I died in him. When he became flesh, I became flesh in him. When he was condemned, I was condemned in him. The rejected old Adam was replaced by the accepted new Man, the Last Adam. When the Father sent His only begotten Son into the world, He subjected Him to the death of the Cross in order to rescue me from my Adamic death, because He loved me as His chosen one from all eternity. While the Lamb of God was on the Cross, my Father laid all my as-yet-uncommitted sins upon Him, and His death for those sins freed me from their penalty. While the Lord Jesus was on that same Cross the Father identified me, in my Adamic life of sin, with His Son who was made to be that sin (2 Cor. 5:21). In Him, I died unto sin--positionally. I, the sinful one, was not forgiven--my sins were forgiven, but not the old man, the source of those sins. "God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh" (Rom. 8: 3). I was not forgiven in order to start all over as a first-Adam person. No; "I was crucified with Christ"; I died unto sin in Him. In that death I was positionally separated from my Adamic life, the source of sin. The Lord Jesus' death for me redeemed me from the penalty of my sins; my positional death with Him freed me from the condemned Adamic life and its reign. Though the "Old Man", the adamic nature still exists in my flesh, I am no longer a slave to that flesh. As "his (God's) workmanship, (newly) created in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 2: 10), I may be progressively freed from the reign of indwelling Adamic sin in my condition, as I reckon myself dead indeed unto sin and alive unto God in Christ (Rom. 6:11). Eagle One |
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10 | can you explain hebrews 6; 6 | Heb 6:6 | Eagle 38 | 169053 | ||
Indeed Hebrews Chapter 6 is difficult to the extent that many Christians prefer to avoid it altogether. In general and without any research I always felt that "those" in verse 4 were never really saved in the first place. That was the easy way around it. However, it was an itch that didn't get scratched. For this post I would like to focus on a portion of Hebrews 6:4 and 6:5. And the emphasis is on the word TASTED. "and having tasted, moreover, the heavenly gift, and partners of the Holy Spirit having become:" Now, a portion of verse 5, "and furthermore having tasted as good the utterance of God," From William R. Newell, page 186. "Hebrews Verse by Verse" 1. And tasted of the heavenly gift--Now what heavely gift could be thus spoken of and known without further definition? What indeed but that described in Rom 6:23. "The Gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." BUT OUR LORD'S PROMISE CONCERNING "the gift of God" WAS NOT MADE TO TASTERS, BUT TO DRINKERS; as he said to the Samritan woman. "If thou knewest the gift of God, and Who it is that saith to thee, Give Me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of Him, and He would have given thee living water...Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall become in him a well of water springing up unto eternal life. John 4:10, 14. Thus all DRINKERS of the water of life are truly saved. But, you ask, could a person taste of eternal life and yet be lost forever? Certainly! Tasting is not drinking! Drinkers are not mere tasters; there has been a consenting act of the will. They have comitted themselves to what they drink. In tasting, the flavor and effect of the draught is discovered: the will thereupon must decide whether to drink or reject what has been tasted. The drinker commits the water to the man and the man to the water--marvelous picture of saving faith! If it be the water of life, which Jesus gives, he has drunk of it; he has committed himself to it; his whole being is involved;; his whole future is detemined. Thousands today know the taste of the heavenly gift, eternal life, who never did drink that water! Who did not accept, receive, that gift in a saving sense. In this most solemn passage in the sixth of Hebrews, we find men have tasted and rejected--and been rejected by God. At the beginning of Mr. Newell's study he states, "the word once-for-all (Gr hapax), precedes and governs all the participles following: having been ENLIGHTENED, having TASTED, having been MADE PARTAKERS, finally, HAVING TASTED THE UTTERANCE OF GOD TO BE GOOD; These are all aorist participles, referring to an event definitely past; and they are all followed by the frightful words, having FALLEN AWAY! Yours in Christ. Eagle 38 |
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11 | ... | Is 43:10 | Eagle 38 | 168667 | ||
Hello again CDBJ, I was impressed by your statement from I John. "We as believers don't "practice" improving our old sin nature. What an exercise in futility that would be. Our old sin nature is condemned. You just can't improve something that is dead. I take great comfort in reading Romans 7:17 through Romans 8:11. In me there is no power to resist that sin nature, but in Christ Jesus there is all power. If you and I cry out when pressure comes from the Adamic Old Nature, the Holy Spirit is in us to provide the power. I know this is not news to you, but I enjoy talking about it. Thanks. Eagle Rom 7:17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. Rom 7:19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. Rom 7:20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. Rom 7:21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. Rom 7:22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, Rom 7:23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? Rom 7:25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin. Rom 8:1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. Rom 8:3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, Rom 8:4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Rom 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. Rom 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, Rom 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, Rom 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Rom 8:10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. |
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12 | ... | Is 43:10 | Eagle 38 | 168623 | ||
Dear CDBJ, Your question is sound and well taken. In answer, I'd like to first quote from Romans chapter 6 to clarify the "Adamic Nature". Verses 5-6 tells us: (6) "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection." (6) knowing this, that our old man, (Adamic Nature)is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (7) For he that is dead is (Legally) freed from sin. The word legally in parentheses is mine. (8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. Now I jump down to verse (11) "Likewise reckon ye also to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord". We are legally freed from the bondage of sin, however, our old man which is the Adamic Nature is still able to function and press our flesh to be as those not belonging to Jesus Christ. Everything you stated and quoted is right on. We fight our flesh, which is the old Adamic Nature. However, our true position is in Him since we were chosen in the beloved. I truly appreciated your prompt response to my post. If my answer seems to have holes in it, please write back as soon as possible. Best in Christ. Eagle |
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13 | ... | Is 43:10 | Eagle 38 | 168619 | ||
It seems to me that inquiring about Henotheism possiblity is a question saturated with futility. I haven't researched the word. What I do know without question is that what the bible says the bible means. With that in mind one needs to look at Romans 6:11. "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Ephesians 1:3-6) Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, Eph 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love Eph 1:5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, Eph 1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, wheren He hath made us accdepted in the beloved. I read these scriptures and I conclude the following: 1. My Adamic Nature died with Him on the cross. When he rose from the dead, I arose from the dead with Him, but I arose with a new nature. 2. My new nature was placed by God "in Jesus Christ." 3. Think about it. If you are a born again Christian you have a new nature. Your new nature is in Him and you are accepted in the beloved. This cannot change. God "Predestinated you before the foundation of the world. If you are chosen in the beloved because God Predestinated your position in Christ Jesus, how can a discussion of "Henotheism" be so critical? Eagle 38 |
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