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21 | Trifling, unedifying, stupid controversy | 2 Tim 2:23 | Radioman2 | 96214 | ||
Trifling, unedifying, stupid controversies AMPLIFIED 2 Timothy 2:23 But refuse (shut your mind against, have nothing to do with) trifling (ill-informed, unedifying, stupid) controversies over ignorant questionings, for you know that they foster strife and breed quarrels. Once again here on the forum someone -- in this case several someones --(Person X) takes a stand on their interpretation of one verse of Scripture or one doctrine. They cling to it no matter what. Others on the forum do all they can possibly do, using both Scripture and reason, to point out that the stand the person has taken is neither Scriptural nor logical. Person X apparently ignores every point made by every other poster. Person X quotes the same question or argument again and again. Other posters try in every way possible to make their points as clear and plain as they possibly can. Time after time Scripture and reason are totally ignored. After the other posters have repeatedly made their point as plain as day, Person X continues to repeat their one misinterpreted verse or point, saying it again and again, like a mantra. After days or weeks have gone by and 100 or more posts are made to the same thread, one or both sides finally give up. Someone finally admits they've reached a stalemate. In vain one hopes that it's finally over and good riddance to the debate. Lo and behold, a month goes by and here comes the same issue all over again. Only it's someone else asking the question this time. Sometimes the postings here are like a dog going round and round chasing his own tale. It should come as no surprise that many former Forum members eventually give up and leave the Forum in disgust, never to return. What is my point? What difference does it make? If my point was that night is dark and day is light, someone would write in and give me 10 arguments why I am wrong. Though we or an angel from heaven stood before that person for 6 literal, 24-hour days trying to reason with them, the person would close their mind and resist the truth. --Radioman2 |
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22 | Does God try to speak and not get heard? | Heb 1:2 | Radioman2 | 94591 | ||
Does God try to speak and not get heard? Does God Try? Some hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way. 'God doesn't try. He is all-powerful. God doesn't attempt. He knows everything. Whatever He intends to accomplish He does, in fact, accomplish. 'Now I've got another question. What about this sense in many evangelical circles, especially in charismatic ones, that God is working hard to speak to individuals, but they don't "hear His voice" because they simply aren't listening? What of the notion that the ability to hear the voice of God requires we simply quiet ourselves and get in tune? 'Many have bought the idea that optimal Christian living involves "experiencing God" in a special manner: hearing His voice and getting special directives or assignments from Him. For those who say, "I don't hear God," the rejoinder is often, "He's been trying to talk to you, but you weren't listening." ( . . . ) 'I know of no place in the Bible, ladies and gentlemen, where God attempted to speak and He wasn't heard. Frequently, He wasn't obeyed, true enough. Certainly, people hardened their hearts against the revelation–which itself was clear–and refused to believe that which was spoken. But I know of no case where God was speaking and He just couldn't get through because people were not listening. 'For goodness sake, we're talking about special revelation. Paul's says in Romans 1 that even general revelation is so obvious and so forceful that people must actively suppress the truth in unrighteousness in order to ignore it. 'As far as I can tell, the Bible knows of no such thing as God trying to speak, but is incapable of being heard because fallen men and women have somehow closed Him off, denied His ability, and so can't hear Him or are just simply too busy to hear the still, small voice of God. 'This is simply a matter of consistent reasoning. It seems to me that if we hold that God can be trying to speak to someone, but some human limitation gets in His way, then we have to accept as valid the same objection against the authority of Scripture and surrender our confidence that God could guarantee the outcome of the writing of the Bible. 'If, however, we say that God is big enough to overcome any human limitations so He can guarantee the word-for-word accuracy of the Scripture, then the same sovereign power is available to God to speak to any individual when He so chooses. God doesn't "try" to speak and not get heard. 'Now, if that's true, then we don't have to spend any time quieting our lives to hear the voice of God as He "tries" to penetrate all the clamor. Instead, we can simply turn our gaze upon the only voice of God we are ever commanded to hear, to know, and to obey. That is the written, fully inspired, fully accurate Word of God: the Bible.' (www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/doesgodt.htm) --Radioman2 |
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23 | Where does Scripture say Christians... | Matt 24:11 | Radioman2 | 94108 | ||
DAIRYLEADER5: The following is in reply to your Note, "Radioman2, I dont care a lot for Copelands analogy...," ID# 94106. --Radioman2 ____________________ Repost of ID# 89213 by Hank "We need to be careful of what we say about our brothers and sisters, we will be judged for it." --from your post No. 89181. Tim, where does Scripture say that Christians will be judged for reproving and rebuking false teaching and false teachers? Just how "careful" were Paul and other apostles about soft-peddling error and corruption in the church? For that matter, how compromising was Jesus in dealing with false teachers? Have you read anything about the vigor and forcefulness with which Charles H. Spurgeon opposed modernism and the apostasy that it brought to the Baptist Union of England in his day? No, Tim, Christians who love the faith once and for all delivered to the saints are not to be careful lest they offend. They are not to be spineless, namby-pamby, weak, apathetic, and ineffectual, craven and ignorant little wimps hiding in the shadows, ashamed of the gospel of Christ, bent on condoning error and deception. They try to rationalize their hypocrisy by calling it Christian charity and tolerance. The seminal cause of many church groups floundering today in man-centered theology can be traced to the failure of professing Christians to stand up for orthodox teaching and practice. The corrupting interlopers had free play simply because there was no one who had the guts to oppose them and put an end to their ungodly secularism and socinianism. When man began to introduce theological concepts that robbed God of his sovereignty and placed man in control of his own destiny, much of biblical Christianity began a slow, steady disintegration into a devilish mixture of cults, false teaching and heresy. Much has been said on this forum about the so-called Word of Faith movement, one characteristic of which that is widely advertised by its practitioners is expressed in the silly slogan, "Name it and claim it." Name the blessing or whatever that God "owes" us and claim it. Since when has God ever empowered man to put Him in the dock and force Him to do anything? This is Heresy with a capital H. What is sad is that disciples of the false teachers are not bashful to come forth to condemn orthodox evangelicals, frequently tagging them as practicing legalism because they adhere to sola scriptura and thus don't look for any special favors from God such as a private and extra-biblical sign or special revelation . . . --Hank ID# 89213 |
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24 | Praying or Saying? | Rom 1:8 | Radioman2 | 94091 | ||
I have never said that we should not pray in the name of Jesus. What I said is: 'PRAYING in the name of Jesus doesn't mean SAYING, "In the name of Jesus." ' Radioman2 ____________________ See also "In the Name of Jesus" by Gregory Koukl at the following website: (www.str.org/free/commentaries/theology/nameofje.htm) |
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25 | Do you have a private hot line to God? | Deut 18:22 | Radioman2 | 92502 | ||
Does God talk to you personally? "A Private Hot Line to God?" by Gregory Koukl ___________________ Does God talk to you personally? Would you bet your life on it? Claiming to receive personal messages from God on a regular basis places subjective experience on the same level as Scripture, Greg argues. This is the claim of a prophet, and not even Old Testament prophets did so unless they were willing to die for the claim. ____________________ 'I've made what I think is a telling observation about those who hold to a dual source of special revelation. Whenever an organization says, "We believe the Bible is inspired plus we believe our leadership is inspired," or "We believe the Bible is inspired plus we believe this other book of ours" (like the Book of Mormon, for example) "is inspired," the Bible always ends up taking the back seat instead of being on equal footing with these other sources of special revelation. 'I think most Christians will be comfortable with that assessment. This, though, raises a question about Evangelical claims to multiple sources of special revelation. For all our talk about sola Scriptura, many also hold that God speaks to them on a regular basis giving true information about Himself and specific directions for their lives. Their claim is, essentially, "I believe the Bible is a bona fide source of information and the Spirit also gives private information directly to me." The second step frequently follows the first: The personal, subjective sense of what a person thinks God is telling him trumps the objective Scripture. 'I was teaching from the Bible recently in a large Evangelical church here in Southern California, and I was publicly opposed by a woman who challenged my view not on the basis of a better interpretation of Scripture (she completely ignored my exegesis), but on the basis of what she was convinced the Holy Spirit had told her. She called me a heretic and said I was sinning because I was "analyzing and dissecting the Bible" instead of letting the Holy Spirit speak to me. My view was merely "man's interpretation." You'd be amazed at how often I run into that kind of response by otherwise orthodox Christians. 'Note that I have a very robust doctrine of the Holy Spirit. I'm charismatic in that I believe in the perpetuity of spiritual gifts and in energetic worship. The real question is-- and this is vital-- Are we justified in claiming that our personal, private, first-person, subjective experiences give us authoritative knowledge about God, or about what God wants us to do? 'If a woman said, "God told me to marry this man," that wouldn't be contrary to Scripture unless he was a non-Christian or already married. Even if he was a Christian, though, the statement begs a different question: Does Scripture give us the liberty to assign the authority of divine fiat to our subjective experiences? 'My answer is nowhere does the Bible give us that liberty. It does not enjoin us to assess our feelings and then judge whether they are a manifestation of the voice of God or not.' This is an excerpt from the article. To read more go to: (http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/life/aprivate.htm). |
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26 | Problems w/ Carnal Christian Teaching? | Rom 7:14 | Radioman2 | 92052 | ||
'The Lordship Controversy and the Carnal Christian Teaching (Part 2)' 'Ernest Reisinger' 'Let me give a short review of our last study on the Carnal Christian teaching: '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching is primarily based on an erroneous interpretation of a single passage of Scripture (1 Cor. 3:1-4). '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching perverts many other doctrines of the Christian faith. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching separates the two main doctrines of the Christian faith--justification and sanctification. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching separates the new covenant by making the act of submission to Christ optional--what God has joined together let no man or teaching put asunder. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching makes holiness, obedience and discipleship optional. See John 10:26-28; 14:21-23; 15:10; 1 Pet. 1:155,16; Heb. 12:14; Titus 2:10-14. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching breeds antinomianism and gives a false standard of what a Christian really is. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching is the mother of many of the second-work-of-grace errors. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching actually teaches two ways to heaven: one, the carnal-Christian way and two, the spiritual-Christian way--whichever your prefer. '. The "Carnal Christian" teachers ignore the biblical distinction between the grounds of salvation and the grounds of assurance. '. The "Carnal Christian" teaching breeds a false spirituality and Pharisaism in the so-called "spiritual Christians" who have measured up to some man-made standard of spirituality. There ought to be no professed "spiritual Christians," much less "super-spiritual" ones! George Whitefield, a man who lived very close to his Savior, prayed all his days, "Let me begin to be a Christian." And another Christian has truly said, "In the life of the most perfect Christian there is every day renewed occasion for self-abhorrence, for repentance, for renewed application to the blood of Christ, for application of the rekindling of the Holy Spirit." 'Many are comfortable living sinful lives while hiding behind a teaching that is not biblical, comfortably going to hell on a false teaching.' ____________________ The Lordship Controversy and the Carnal Christian Teaching (Part 2) Ernest Reisinger (To whom it may concern: Please do not ask me to explain what Reisinger means. Let Reisinger explain what Reisinger means. To read more go to: (http://www.founders.org/FJ17/article2.html)) |
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27 | Ques. re the Carnal Christian Teaching | Rom 7:14 | Radioman2 | 92042 | ||
Questions re Carnal Christian Teaching ____________________ "Since all Christians have remaining sin in them and since they sin every day, how much sin, or, what particular sins classify a person as a carnal Christian?" ____________________ 'Questions Raised by the Carnal Christian Teaching' '1. Are we sanctified passively, that is, by faith without the deeds of the law? (Note: I did not say justified but sanctified.) If sanctification is passive--a kind of "let go and let God"--then where do we place the apostolic admonitions in the New Testament such as, "I fight," "I run," "I keep under my body," "let us cleanse ourselves," "let us labour," "let us lay aside every weight"? None of these are passive expressions nor do they express some single act as the experience of victory or some single experience as the means of becoming more spiritual and mature. '2. Does not appealing to the so-called carnal Christian to become a spiritual Christian depreciate the real conversion experience by over-appreciating the second experience by whatever name it may be called (which is variously designated higher life, deeper life, spirit filled life, triumphant living, making Christ Lord not just Savior, etc.)? "Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (2 Cor. 5:17). This passage is not talking about a second experience but rather about what happens in a real conversion experience. 'Has the spiritual Christian finished growing in grace? If not, what is he to be called, as he continues to grow in grace? Do we make still more unbiblical categories, such as, "spiritual, spiritual Christian" or "super spiritual Christian"? '3. Who is to decide who the carnal Christians are and exactly what standard is to be used in determining this? Do the spiritual Christians decide who the carnal Christians are? Does a church or preacher decide where the line is to be drawn that divides the two classes or categories? Would you like the responsibility of dividing the members of your church into unsaved, carnal Christian, spiritual? Since all Christians have remaining sin in them and since they sin every day, how much sin, or, what particular sins classify a person as a carnal Christian? '4. Do not all Christians act like natural men at times in some area of their lives? '5. Do not the inward sins, such as, envy, malice, covetousness, lasciviousness (which included immorality on the mental level) prove that a person is carnal just as much as some outward manifestation of external sins? '6. How much sin can a spiritual Christian commit and still be in the spiritual category? '7. Does the Christian go back and forth from spiritual to carnal and carnal to spiritual? How often can this changing of categories take place? '8. When and how does a carnal Christian become a spiritual Christian? '9. Are there different degrees of carnality and different degrees of sanctification in the so-called spiritual Christians? 'If some of these questions seem a bit ridiculous it is because they are raised by an unbiblical, ridiculous teaching.' ____________________ The Lordship Controversy and the Carnal Christian Teaching (Part 2) Ernest Reisinger (To whom it may concern: Please do not ask me to explain what Reisinger means. Let Reisinger explain what Reisinger means. To read more go to: (http://www.founders.org/FJ17/article2.html)) |
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28 | What is a "carnal" Christian? | 1 John 3:10 | Radioman2 | 91913 | ||
What is a "carnal" Christian? Greetings, CurtMan: I'm not sure exactly what it is you are asking in your post, ID# 91690. Do you mean: What is a "carnal" Christian?; and Can a "carnal" Christian fall from grace and lose his salvation? If this is what you are asking, then let's take one question at a time. Q: What is a "carnal" Christian? A: Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 'carnal 'Compare 1 Corinthians 3:1,4. "Carnal" ("fleshly") is Paul's word for the Adamic nature, and for the believer who "walks," i.e. lives, under the power of it. "Natural" is his characteristic word for the unrenewed man (1 Corinthians 2:14), as "spiritual" designates the renewed man who walks in the Spirit (1 Corinthians 3:1; Galatians 6:1.)' (Scofield, C.I. "Scofield Reference Notes on Romans 7". "Scofield Reference Notes (1917 Edition)". (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/ScofieldReferenceNotes/) I would go with this definition of carnal. It seems justified by Paul's use of the term in Scripture. So one definition of a "carnal" Christian is: 'the believer who walks, i.e. lives, under the power of the Adamic nature ("human nature" (GNT); "the sinful nature" (NLT); "the corrupt nature" (GOD's WORD)).' Q: Can a "carnal" Christian fall from grace and lose his salvation? (CurtMan, I realize this is not how you worded your question, but am I correct in assuming that this is what is implied in your question, "at some point and time their eternal resting-place becomes an issue. My focus is on the fact that they were Carnal and they were Saints, What’s your take on this?"?) A: Are they Christians? Were they ever Christians? 1 John 3:9-10 (ESV) No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. [10] By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. If they are born-again believers, carnal or otherwise, is it possible for them to fall from grace and lose their salvation? 'Scripture abundantly affirms the Christian's eternal security; therefore it is not true that believers in Christ can lose their salvation. See Jn 3:15-16, 36; 10:27-30; Rom 8:35,37-39; Eph 1:12-14; 4:30; Phil 1:6; Heb 10:12-14; 1 Pet 1:3-5" (note at Heb 6:4, New Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford, 1967).' CurtMan, if I have answered questions you did not ask or not answered questions you did ask, please let me know. Also, if my answer needs more explanation or clarification, let me know. I'll do my best to address your question(s). Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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29 | What is happening here? | 1 John 3:9 | Radioman2 | 91906 | ||
Ngop: Somehow my posts re homosexual sin were twisted and misinterpreted to mean something that I never intended for them to mean. I've been accused in those posts of saying things that I neither said nor meant. And when what I wrote wasn't misinterpeted, it was ignored altogether. I quoted from the 3rd chapter of 1 John. Does the Scripture I quoted single out homosexual sin as the only sin which, if habitually practiced, has certain consequences? Does it even mention homosexual sin by name? No, it does not. I don't mean you when I say this, I mean other(s) who have replied to my posts: I was attacked, lumped together with all those "bad Christians" who hate homosexuals, and accused of condemning homosexuals. I condemned no one. The Scriptures I quoted condemned all habitual sinning -- not just homosexual sin. I asked a particular individual a simple question: What do you mean when you use the phrase "being a homosexual"? AT first my question went ignored and unanswered. After posting the same question 3 or 4 times, I finally got an answer. Of course, the answer from this individual did more to evade my question than to answer it. I wasn't asking for a philosophical essay. I merely asked does being a homosexual mean homosexual desires or does it mean acting on those desires? I asked a simple question, but did not get a short and simple answer. Ngop, you write: "I used to get into this forum on and off without any fear. I wish I am just being paranoid. If I am not, can't you and other senior members of this forum do something about what is happening." I'm not sure what you are asking me. Can I and other senior members do something about what? If you will be more specific in your question, I would be happy to answer it. However, I can tell you now, whatever is happening on the forum, I can do no more than any other poster, such as yourself. What anyone and everyone is free to do is to submit an abuse report to StudyBibleForum.com regarding a specific post or user whose posts are deemed abusive or inappropriate. It is then up to our forum sponsors to decide what, if any, action they wish to take. Thanks for your reply to me. If you have any questions about anything or want to talk about anything, you are always welcome to direct Questions, Answers and Notes to me. I'll be glad to provide any information I can. Grace and peace to you, Radioman2 |
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30 | What does "being a homosexual" mean? | Rom 1:19 | Radioman2 | 91752 | ||
Unless and until you give your definition of "being a homosexual", further discussion of the subject is meaningless. ____________________ What does "being a homosexual" mean? Megiddo: You write: "I'm saying that it is possible for a homosexual to be a Christian, to praise her/her creator, and to carry out God's will while being a homosexual." I think what is at issue here is: what do you mean when you say "being a homosexual?" If being a homosexual means merely to have homosexual desires without acting on those desires, that is one thing. But if being a homosexual means performing homosexual acts, then the answer is: No, it is not possible for a homosexual to carry out God's will. It is not my intent here to bash or attack. I merely wish to understand what you mean when you say "being a homosexual." Unless and until you give your definition of "being a homosexual", further discussion of the subject is meaningless. Radioman2 |
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31 | What does "being a homosexual" mean? | 1 John 3:9 | Radioman2 | 91622 | ||
What does "being a homosexual" mean? Megiddo: You write: "I'm saying that it is possible for a homosexual to be a Christian, to praise her/her creator, and to carry out God's will while being a homosexual." I think what is at issue here is: what do you mean when you say "being a homosexual?" If being a homosexual means merely to have homosexual desires without acting on those desires, that is one thing. But if being a homosexual means performing homosexual acts, then the answer is: No, it is not possible for a homosexual to carry out God's will. It is not my intent here to bash or attack. I merely wish to understand what you mean when you say "being a homosexual." Unless and until you give your definition of "being a homosexual", further discussion of the subject is meaningless. Radioman2 |
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32 | What does "being a homosexual" mean? | Rom 1:19 | Radioman2 | 91515 | ||
What does being a homosexual mean? Megiddo: You write: "I'm saying that it is possible for a homosexual to be a Christian, to praise her/her creator, and to carry out God's will while being a homosexual." I think what is at issue here is: what do you mean when you say "being a homosexual?" If being a homosexual means merely to have homosexual desires without acting on those desires, that is one thing. But if being a homosexual means performing homosexual acts, then the answer is: No, it is not possible for a homosexual to carry out God's will. It is not my intent here to bash or attack. I merely wish to understand what you mean when you say "being a homosexual." Unless and until you give your definition of "being a homosexual", further discussion of the subject is meaningless. Radioman2 |
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33 | Release and faith in same verse? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 91013 | ||
angel9: The body of my previous note made no mention whatever of the Amplified Bible. And no matter what the "amplifications" say, the fact remains: The words "release" and "faith" are not found together in the same verse anywhere in the Bible. Grace and peace, Radioman2 ____________________ "Release" and "faith" not in same verse. "do what the Bible says and release that faith"? Where in the Bible does it say that? An online search of the KING JAMES VERSION of the Bible resulted in 18 verses in which the word "release" appears. And yet the word "faith" does not appear in the same verse as the word "release" anywhere in this translation. An online search of the NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE resulted in 31 verses in which the word "release" appears. And yet the word "faith" does not appear in the same verse as the word "release" anywhere in this translation. |
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34 | Did Christ take back the keys? | Bible general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 90864 | ||
Did Christ take back the keys? Nowhere in the Bible is there a clear verse of Scripture to indicate that Christ TOOK BACK any keys or that Satan had possession of keys. In the entire King James Version of the Bible, the word "key" appears in 6 verses. The word "keys" appears in 2 verses. Thus, "key" and "keys" appear a total of 8 times in the KJV. The following is ALL the Bible has to say about key(s): Jud 3:25 And they tarried till they were ashamed: and, behold, he opened not the doors of the parlour; therefore they took a key, and opened them: and, behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth. Isa 22:22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open. Lu 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Re 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; Re 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. Re 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Mt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Re 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. |
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35 | What would happen if...? | Matt 16:6 | Radioman2 | 90835 | ||
Hank: While we're at it, what do you suppose would happen if a prosecuting attorney went into court and, when asked by the judge to present his evidence, replied: "Your honor, if it's evidence you want, why don't YOU conduct an investigation and come up with evidence to prove my case?" Why not? As Copeland would reason, If you have imagination as a grain of sesame seed, nothing shall be impossible unto you. Would such a prosecutor be cited for contempt of court or would he be disbarred on the grounds that he is too stupid to practice law? Radioman2 P.S. "Stupid" is such an ugly word. But then so are the words "you fools" and "you skeptics". |
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36 | Prescribing visualization? | Matt 16:6 | Radioman2 | 90806 | ||
PRESCRIBING VISUALIZATION? "Copeland can argue and fuss all he wants, but the fact of the matter is that through such teachings he has entered the world of the occult." ____________________ PRESCRIBING VISUALIZATION: The Teachings of Kenneth Copeland [Note: Numbers in text are footnote numbers. To read footnotes providing reference sources for this article, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm)] 'Copeland combines his "legal" precedent for prosperity with his "mechanics" of confession to form a formula for speaking things into existence. He insists, "You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when he created the heavens and the earth."84 However, he adds that most believers are not able to make full use of their inner power because "our imagination...has been so fouled up and fathered up with wasted useless words [and] wasted useless images."85 'As a corrective, Copeland instructs believers to "go to the New Testament, get the words of the covenant that cover the situation that you hope to bring to pass. Build the image of that hope inside of you....Keep the word before your eyes."86 As examples, he uses an inner picture of an 82-foot yacht that will transform into reality in the Holy of Holies in heaven, along with a "picture [of a Bible] that came right out of me and went into the Holy of Holies,"87 where it developed into an actual, physical object. 'Copeland also claims that "when you get to the place where you take the Word of God and build an image on the inside of you of not having crippled legs and not having blind eyes, but when you close your eyes you just see yourself just leap out of that wheelchair, it will picture that in the Holy of Holies and you will come out of there."88 'Recognizing that his technique "sounds like that visualization they do in meditation and metaphysical practices,"89 Copeland counters by reversing the tables. "What they're doing sounds like this," he retorts. "The devil is a counterfeiter. He never came up with anything real. That is the perverted form of the real thing. Where do you think he got it? That sucker doesn't know anything on his own. Amen."90 'During another occasion, however, Copeland revealingly affirms that both positive confession and creative visualization are based on the same principle: "Words create pictures, and pictures in your mind create words. And then the words come back out your mouth....And when that spiritual force comes out it is going to give substance to the image that's on the inside of you. Aw, that's that visualization stuff! Aw, that's that New Age! No, New Age is trying to do this; and they'd get somewhat results out of it because this is spiritual law, brother."91 'Copeland says, "Any image that you get down on the inside of you that is so vivid when you close your eyes you see it, it'll come to pass. When God came at the Tower of Babel, He said, 'Anything they can imagine, they can do.'"92 He fails to note, however, that those individuals built the tower out of brick and tar (Gen. 11:3), not simply out of their imagination. Moreover, their venture incurred God's judgment (vv. 6-9). Copeland can argue and fuss all he wants, but the fact of the matter is that through such teachings he has entered the world of the occult.' ____________________ To read more, including extensive footnotes, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DC755-2.htm) matt2411 |
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37 | Where is his common courtesy? | Matt 16:6 | Radioman2 | 90781 | ||
RJJ: The Pastor answered your question with silence? Well, welcome to the club. I was beginning to think I had replied to the postings of Harpo. Radioman2 |
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38 | Is "slain in the Spirit" biblical? | Matt 16:6 | Radioman2 | 90453 | ||
Is "slain in the Spirit" a biblical experience? 1) There is no biblical precedent for slain in the Spirit. 2) Only the enemies of Jesus fell BACKWARD after touching or being touched by Him. His followers fell FORWARD in worship and adoration. 3) God never has to do the same thing in the same way twice. Hypothetically, IF God were to slay people in the Spirit, it is unlikely He would do it cookie cutter fashion. I.e., it is not: "Everybody in the building, line up. You're all going to receive the same experience in the same way." 4) The literal definition of the English word "slay" is "to kill." I don't think I want to be killed -- either in the Spirit or otherwise. 5) Where "slain in the Spirit" is concerned, neither the WORDS nor the CONCEPT appear in the Bible. 6) One radio broadcaster has written about being “slain in the Spirit”: “Despite the pious attribution of this phenomenon to the Holy Spirit as well as the pragmatic addition of ‘catchers,’ multitudes continue to suffer spiritual, emotional and physical damage from this practice. Some have even died.”62 (www.equip.org/ ) 7) "The three-hour repetition of a spiritual song, being slain in the spirit, or even a spiritualistic seance have at least one thing in common — they all involve subjects becoming extremely susceptible to spontaneous suggestions." (www.equip.org/ ) 8) The same broadcaster writes: "Furthermore, let me underscore the fact that I continue to be gravely concerned about the spiritual and physical consequences of unbiblical manifestations such as spasmodic jerking and being “slain in the spirit.”" (www.equip.org/ ) 9) "Slain in the Spirit "Also "resting in the Spirit" or in the vernacular of movements like the Toronto Blessing and Pensacola Outpouring "doing carpet time." "This manifestation is promoted especially (but not exclusively) by proponents of some current renewal and revival movements. "In a practice said to have been introduced by Kathryn Kuhlman, people who receive what they consider to tbe a "touch of the Holy Spirit" pass out on the floor, where they are said to "rest in the Spirit." Many people do not pass out completely, but rather "yield" - i.e., they voluntarily fall to the floor. "Churches like the Vineyard Movement, the Toronto Christian Fellowship, and preachers like Benny Hinn say they do not completely understand why people fall "under the power of the Spirit." However, they do claim God can more easily do a work of healing, renewal, and/or impartation while a person "does carpet time". "People who do not fall are sometimes referred to as "HTR" - Hard To Receive." (www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex) To click on links to further info on slain in the Spirit cut and paste into your address bar the following link: http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/s00.html#slain |
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39 | A Private Hot Line to God? | Ps 119:105 | Radioman2 | 89035 | ||
Claiming to receive personal messages from God on a regular basis places subjective experience on the same level as Scripture. "A Private Hot Line to God?" by Gregory Koukl 'Does God talk to you personally? Would you bet your life on it? Claiming to receive personal messages from God on a regular basis places subjective experience on the same level as Scripture, Greg argues. This is the claim of a prophet, and not even Old Testament prophets did so unless they were willing to die for the claim. 'I've made what I think is a telling observation about those who hold to a dual source of special revelation. Whenever an organization says, "We believe the Bible is inspired plus we believe our leadership is inspired," or "We believe the Bible is inspired plus we believe this other book of ours" (like the Book of Mormon, for example) "is inspired," the Bible always ends up taking the back seat instead of being on equal footing with these other sources of special revelation. 'I think most Christians will be comfortable with that assessment. This, though, raises a question about Evangelical claims to multiple sources of special revelation. For all our talk about sola Scriptura, many also hold that God speaks to them on a regular basis giving true information about Himself and specific directions for their lives. Their claim is, essentially, "I believe the Bible is a bona fide source of information and the Spirit also gives private information directly to me." The second step frequently follows the first: The personal, subjective sense of what a person thinks God is telling him trumps the objective Scripture. 'I was teaching from the Bible recently in a large Evangelical church here in Southern California, and I was publicly opposed by a woman who challenged my view not on the basis of a better interpretation of Scripture (she completely ignored my exegesis), but on the basis of what she was convinced the Holy Spirit had told her. She called me a heretic and said I was sinning because I was "analyzing and dissecting the Bible" instead of letting the Holy Spirit speak to me. My view was merely "man's interpretation." You'd be amazed at how often I run into that kind of response by otherwise orthodox Christians. 'Note that I have a very robust doctrine of the Holy Spirit. I'm charismatic in that I believe in the perpetuity of spiritual gifts and in energetic worship. The real question is-- and this is vital-- Are we justified in claiming that our personal, private, first-person, subjective experiences give us authoritative knowledge about God, or about what God wants us to do? 'If a woman said, "God told me to marry this man," that wouldn't be contrary to Scripture unless he was a non-Christian or already married. Even if he was a Christian, though, the statement begs a different question: Does Scripture give us the liberty to assign the authority of divine fiat to our subjective experiences? 'My answer is nowhere does the Bible give us that liberty. It does not enjoin us to assess our feelings and then judge whether they are a manifestation of the voice of God or not.' ____________________ This is an excerpt from the article. To read more go to: ID# 85421 at this website (StudyBibleForum) and/or: (http://www.str.org/free/commentaries/life/aprivate.htm). |
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40 | Christians living in unbroken carnality? | Rom 8:7 | Radioman2 | 86994 | ||
What does the Bible teach concerning the notion that millions of Christians live in a state of unbroken carnality? Is such a notion biblical? In your answer, please include specific Scripture references. |
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